NSW Highway patrol BMW’s

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Use Subarus down here.

Usually Liberties. No fancy highway patrol here.

I love my cars but outside one knob been fantastic.

Tassie pretty cruisy I guess (I don't know)

I did see a stripey car (might well have been a Liberty) briefly a few weeks ago here on the east coast of Tassie where I live that was more high viz than Tasmanian cop cars used to be but I can't remember definitely that it was. Makes sense though . In our neck of the woods ours are pretty much all four wheel drives like Pajeros , Rangers etc

Found this though while looking for more detail and this was from a year ago .Mostly around Hobart and Launceston and North West Coast where most of the people are I guess .

https://www.examiner.com.au/story/60...weekend-blitz/...

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

They'll keep the police garages busy ...BMW's can be a bit 'high maintenance' and exxy to fix ...or they used to be .

or....what about this Bimmer ....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrdHqUoOcw...800 hp Turbo Barra E46..

BMW will be doing the maintenance not police as cars have a warranty.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

How can they possibly be the same cost when the initial cost is probably double and then resale value a lower percentage,Don’t believe everything a cop tells you.The cop on the street wouldn’t have a clue or care and those that do the purchasing will tell whatever lies it takes to justify their jobs

Police had to justify the spend
BMW offered them a good deal on a whole package that supplied a car which met HWP specs on hrakes etc etc and included them taking the car back at the end of its service.
Fuel savings are significant compared to previous cars.

Camrys would not have met the brake specs.
Manufacturers had the chance to offer a package that met required specs to win the contract. BMW and Chrysler did and were successful.
Yeah i suspect Stingers will become HWP cars in NSW too within a year or two

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by xxx000

BMW will be doing the maintenance not police as cars have a warranty.

Okay ...cool . Still on BMW and on Tasmania Police . Andy's Motorcycle Obsessions is done for YT and such and Andy also owns a beaut XR6 T ute as well . Unless he's sold it recently of course but why would you ?

This is a BMW but a two wheel one that he did a vid on a while back .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9phy6938YZQ..

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

I did see a stripey car (might well have been a Liberty) briefly a few weeks ago here on the east coast of Tassie where I live that was more high viz than Tasmanian cop cars used to be but I can't remember definitely that it was. Makes sense though . In our neck of the woods ours are pretty much all four wheel drives like Pajeros , Rangers etc

Found this though while looking for more detail and this was from a year ago .Mostly around Hobart and Launceston and North West Coast where most of the people are I guess .

https://www.examiner.com.au/story/60...weekend-blitz/...

Yep mate the fully striped ones (red and blue usually) with the gun on top etc are Liberties.

Interesting article. Thanks

There is at least one unmarked bike who is always grabbing cars and bikes. It's black with no markings - Tiger model

[roddy1960]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Yep mate the fully striped ones (red and blue usually) with the gun on top etc are Liberties.

Interesting article. Thanks

There is at least one unmarked bike who is always grabbing cars and bikes. It's black with no markings - Tiger model

I guess they'll have a really quiet Easter weekend next week or will they ???

Maybe with the travel restrictions that'll devastate places like the Tasman Peninsula , St Helens , Coles Bay , Swansea , Bicheno and similar they'll be a bit fussy about the travel restrictions.. Not too sure either way.

I got done for no seat belt by a bike cop many moons ago . I stupidly moved my car from the the Post Office to the take away maybe 60 metres without the belt on and he noticed..From memory a couple of demerit points and $80 ...He was just cruising through too . Not a local .

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by roddy1960

I guess they'll have a really quiet Easter weekend next week or will they ???

Maybe with the travel restrictions that'll devastate places like the Tasman Peninsula , St Helens , Coles Bay , Swansea , Bicheno and similar they'll be a bit fussy about the travel restrictions.. Not too sure either way.

I got done for no seat belt by a bike cop many moons ago . I stupidly moved my car from the the Post Office to the take away maybe 60 metres without the belt on and he noticed..From memory a couple of demerit points and $80 ...He was just cruising through too . Not a local .

Yeah I don't know to be honest mate. I guess will be quiet period but roads still need to be patrolled (especially with bottle shops open) so yep i honestly don't know.

It's beautiful up your way. Best driving roads too even being sensible.

Ha...yeah ok. I got a seatbelt fine a few years back as i literally couldn't see a thing out back of Maloo with belt on.....so I always reversed with it off then clipped it before entering road.

Still done and 300 or so fine and points........harsh i reckon but again, life could be worse : )

[minheim]

Was listening to the Toby Hagen motor session on ABC's Nightline. He was discussing the NSW Police car purchases and noted they spend a lot more than other states on each HWP cars. He was shocked that NSW police (water police) had recently purchased a Ram 1500 to tow jet skis when a Ranger or Hilux costing half that could do the job. Allegedly they justified the purchase claiming they needed a 4.5 tonne capacity. He also noted that the fuel use of the petrol V8 would be a lot more expensive than the diesels in the other utes.

[Polyal]

After moving from QLD to NSW I have noticed the HWP like to roll a class above, 5 series and 300C's if you dont mind.

They also lack alot of signage on the front which is cheeky, not that I need to worry.....

Most of the time car like the RAM above are leased or sold at a decent rate as its marketing for RAM, if its only one they are not making big $$ out of it but they get alot of air play like this post.

I think you could start arguing in Australia why do you need RWD. Most mid sized cars or SUV's would smoke HWP cars of 10 years ago so so who are they keeping up with?

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Yeah I don't know to be honest mate. I guess will be quiet period but roads still need to be patrolled (especially with bottle shops open) so yep i honestly don't know.

It's beautiful up your way. Best driving roads too even being sensible.

Ha...yeah ok. I got a seatbelt fine a few years back as i literally couldn't see a thing out back of Maloo with belt on.....so I always reversed with it off then clipped it before entering road.

Still done and 300 or so fine and points........harsh i reckon but again, life could be worse : )

It's actually legal to unclip the seat belt when reversing I thought

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

It's actually legal to unclip the seat belt when reversing I thought

I don't know but wasn't what i was told - version I got is it's illegal to turn engine on at all without first putting seatbelt on.

Maybe each State is different?

[boss351290]

Thanks..... I still don’t have a answer..... so does it have a single or twin turbo 3.0litre straight 6 diesel turbo....???????

They were filling up with diesel at Theodore, no idea how many turbos ?

Why not use Google??

[2.8L Hilux]

Had a chat with a HWP officer in Moree a few months back. (We were both checking out of a motel and his 530d was idling outside).
He said the new BMW's are a notch above the outgoing SS and XR6, probably due to it being a newer platform. His only real gripe was the BMW's windscreen costing $2k a pop to replace.
He said if you could put the engine and gearbox from an XR into an SS, it'd be the ultimate patrol car...

[DK30RB]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Thanks..... I still don’t have a answer..... so does it have a single or twin turbo 3.0litre straight 6 diesel turbo....???????

They drive 530d - Single turbo straight six 3 litre diesel

There is a twin turbo 540d - but this is not available in Australia.

[GT2]

Originally Posted by DK30RB

They drive 530d - Single turbo straight six 3 litre diesel

There is a twin turbo 540d - but this is not available in Australia.

There's also a 340d that's also not available down under.
48v mild electrification, 0-100 in 4.7 secs.

[burnz]

dunno what car advise is on about,
every HWP car i see is 6.4 hemi's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efXaYeYSg-w

[Abzzilla]

I have also heard that BMW doesn't want to sell the cars off in auctions after they are decomissioned, they probably don't want them to sell cheap.

[jstanovic]

I wonder how these are holding up after some “hard” kms?

[xxx000]

Some of the BMW"s have been auctioned off already in exactly the same way as previous HWP cars were.
The first couple of them went for a touch over $40K with around 115000 kms on them.

Feedback i hear is that they are amazing cars that can sustain very high speeds easily.

[Ben73]

Since they are German you would hope they would be nice autobahn cruisers.

From what I’ve heard BMW is one of the more reliable German companies these days. I’m sure they would be good HP cars

[Tote]

NSW police have a very different requirement for persuit vehicles to other states and did lots of testing before selecting the 300c and BMW. Unlike other states high speed pursuits are not outlawed but they do select the vehicles so that they can slow down to safely pass through intersections and accelerate rapidly to catch up once through them. Hence the Brembos and fast acceleration. The Kia Stinger and Mustang were both tested and didn't make the grade.

Regards,
Tote

[hackney]

Originally Posted by xxx000

Some of the BMW"s have been auctioned off already in exactly the same way as previous HWP cars were.
The first couple of them went for a touch over $40K with around 115000 kms on them.

Feedback i hear is that they are amazing cars that can sustain very high speeds easily.

They are the mainstay of the UK police fleet.

[RHR]

Stingers were canned due to size/ not enough room for equipment. They handled the brake test at goulburn airport and the simulate pursuit at the driver training complex well.

Mustangs had transmission limp mode issues.

[mondeomatureguy]

Hi Guys,
I was talking to a HWP Cop here in Goulburn he was saying "the BMWs are too good tp be a Police HWP Car.
The Chryslers drink the petrol and don't turn that great so I was told.

[XR8AU2121]

A white ex HWP BMW was auctioned at pickles Sydney yesterday, It was a mid 2018 complied, with 130000 odd ks and sold for $42,000.

[boss351290]

Wow. I bought my Xr6 turbo sprint with 6000km for $47000. That. BMW is a rip off. Clapped out ex highway car with heaps of Kilometres and no warranty

[fiestaz]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Wow. I bought my Xr6 turbo sprint with 6000km for $47000. That. BMW is a rip off. Clapped out ex highway car with heaps of Kilometres and no warranty

That’s not really comparing apples with apples. Different cars completely.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by XR8AU2121

A white ex HWP BMW was auctioned at pickles Sydney yesterday, It was a mid 2018 complied, with 130000 odd ks and sold for $42,000.

Within a fortnight it'll be in a Car Yard somewhere for $60,000...!!

[b0son]

Originally Posted by boss351290

Wow. I bought my Xr6 turbo sprint with 6000km for $47000. That. BMW is a rip off. Clapped out ex highway car with heaps of Kilometres and no warranty

The cars are night and day. The mod cons in the BMW make the XR6 look like it was wheeled out of a time capsule. Not even worth comparing the chassis dynamics. Yes, the BMW is high mileage and there'd be questions as to its long term repair bills, but it is a better daily driver in almost every way.