New 2005 Commodore SV8

[MaD_KiWi]

I love the Territory!! bigger and better things to come out of that i say

Simon

[Chucky]

Originally Posted by SHOCKWAVEXR6NA

The current XR8 is basically $12,000 more then a standard XR6 just for the donk. Is there really that much more money involved?

Not when you think about it.. Check the difference in prices of the 6T & XR8 utes... :

Originally Posted by SHOCKWAVEXR6NA

I think Holden and Ford have just got greedy with the Performance cars and therefore are making good money out of them. Same goes for the GT and GTP.

Definately.. but you'd be surprised at the amount of margin that isn't in GT & GT-P for the dealers..

True to a point but in Fords defence the XR8 has standard 18's, 6 stack prestige sound and auto is a no cost option. But I still agree there is still a big difference.

[outback_ute]

So we’re saying there’s a group of buyers who want a V8, but for various reasons don’t want the XR8 (mainly $$$, but also insurance, bit too flashy image). Yet the XT 220 doesn’t quite meet expectations, I think partly because it is still the base model and despite the 17” wheels is a bit plain & unexciting.

An SR8 with Futura level of trim, the current SR bodykit & sports suspension, 5 spoke wheels, fog lights, etc and a choice of bright or subtle colours and trim would be about on the money wouldn’t it? Not sure exactly where that would end up on pricing though (particularly comparing to the n/a XR6). As for engine mods, I think a change of redline and cam to suit would be the best, and easily give the power gain needed.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Yeh basically an SR with 240 KW V8 and some more sporty rims would do the trick I think.

[GT-P 738]

The decision reflects cus tom er feedback that most Holden performance car enthusiasts want to make a statement rather than blend into the crowd.

So tell me why FPV haven't listened to there CUSTOMERS.

[Bossxr8]

I think Holden only sold about 400 SV8's last year, which isn't exactly setting the world on fire. SS probably sold 10 times as much. Ford has the XR6T as its competitor in that price range, even if its not a V8 it has sold a heap more than the SV8 has. If Ford did release an XR8 Junior it would cost about the same as a T and would be absolutely spanked by it if it used a 3V motor. I recon making an XR8 Sprint would be better than making a stripped out, lower cost V8, its better for the brand image than a cheapo model.

[PepeLePew]

Oddly I dont like SV8's (strippers arent my flavour) but here in S.A. I see TOO MANY of them. Dont look undersold to me!

[Bossxr8]

You'd expect that in Adelaide, its a Holden town. I can't even remember the last time I saw an SV8 in Vic. See lots of SS Commodores though.

[Cheahman]

Originally Posted by PepeLePew

Oddly I dont like SV8's (strippers arent my flavour) but here in S.A. I see TOO MANY of them. Dont look undersold to me!

Same. I see more SV8s than BA xr8s, see VYSSs everywhere!!! But yes its Adelaide and they sure love their Holdens down here lol

I see more VY SS Commodores in Sydney than SV8's as well but I'd say there are more that 400 though. There was a thread on the old site detailing exact numbers up until October 04 I think and it was more like 800+.
A good percentage of those 800 would probably buy an SS next time, so it has been a resonable success. Now with it looking like an SS in VZ form it should do better.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Gotta remember the old SV8 was like an XT V8 basically, it was a pile of shit! Its now a baby SS minus the 18 inch rims, i reckon it will be extremely popular and will cost some SS sales but what difference does it make providing theres good markup in both!

[banarcus]

Well in Bathurst, its the other way around. I see heaps more XR8s both utes and sedans than SS and SV8 put together. For all the holden success there over the years, there are a lot more dedicated ford supporters to be seen thats for sure. As for the XT 5.4, I'd gladly have one if they came in a wagon and with a few mods, 260kW wouldn't be hard to achieve. My inlaws have a SV8, I've taken it around Mt Panorama and I've gotta say that the best thing about it was the fe2 suspension. Good grunt too out of the 235kW but it was the suspension for me. SV8 is ok but I'd prefer a falcon V8 any day even it did come a little underpowered, it wouldn't be hard to make them go harder.

[VooDoo]

There were a shitload more than 400 SV8's sold. I remember seeing that amount in 1 month (probebly what your recalling)

The SV8 with bolt-ons has done 12.2sec passes in QLD and now in the 11's with a cam only. Not bad value for a 40k car really. If Ford brought out a 40k BA with the 260 it would do very well. Hopefully with Bossedit we will see a few 12 sec BA's with some bolt-on mods. As long as the sales are taken from the jap cars and euro trash im not complaining. I love lining up against the BA's and Holdens. The ricers are just annoying flies

[WASP]

I think some are forgetting the SV8 has the same motor/driveline/suspension as a the SS. If Ford was to meet the SV8 on equal value for money it would want to be no less than SR spec with XR8 suspension, 6 speed and 260 BOSS motor to boot. Using the 5 speed and Triton V8 even warmed over would be pointless IMO.

I actually think it will never happen anway. Holden has the SV8 and Ford have XR6T. As others have said the sucess of the XR6T's compared to the SV8's say it all.

[WASP]

Originally Posted by VooDoo

The ricers are just annoying flies

BuZZ : :

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by CDAA

BuZZ : :

Swat :
Splat!

sorry you just left that open :Reverend:

[Pearly]

I like it. Looks good.

[Steffo]

When BA first came out, and VY first came out... it was a bit interesting....

182kW XR6 vs 171kW S Supercharged
220kW XT V8 vs 235kW SV8
240kW XR6 Turbo vs 235kW SS
260kW XR8 vs 260kW Clubsport
290kW GT vs 300kW GTS300

then VYII came along, and it changed a bit
182kW XR6 vs 171kW S Supercharged
240kW XR6 Turbo vs 245kW SV8
260kW XR8 vs 245kW SS
290kW GT vs 285kW Clubsport

The XT V8 kinda dropped out of the picture. During this whole time, SS sales, from what I've seen on the roads, have stayed above SV8 sales, despite the added value of SV8. XR6 Turbo is more popular then the SV8, and is generally better value. There is no need for a cheaper Ford V8 sports car, the XR6 Turbo has it all covered. The only thing I would do in the low end segment if I were Ford is tune the n/a 4.0 to make a, say, 200kW XR6 to stick it to the SV6.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by VooDoo

There were a shitload more than 400 SV8's sold. I remember seeing that amount in 1 month (probebly what your recalling)

The SV8 with bolt-ons has done 12.2sec passes in QLD and now in the 11's with a cam only. Not bad value for a 40k car really. If Ford brought out a 40k BA with the 260 it would do very well. Hopefully with Bossedit we will see a few 12 sec BA's with some bolt-on mods. As long as the sales are taken from the jap cars and euro trash im not complaining. I love lining up against the BA's and Holdens. The ricers are just annoying flies

400 SV8's in a month hey. What drugs are you on. There was a thread somewhere that listed the YTD sales of Ford and Holden performance cars and the SV8 had sold less than all the other models bar the GT and the Pursuit. It was less than 500.

[YOOT]

Who would by an SS now? I wouldn't if I wanted an LS1 Holden. I have seen heaps of the VY SV8 with SS bodykit, looks identical other than the wheels and much much cheaper!

Here are figures I found. They are 04 till the end of Sept:

Ford Falcon XR6: 8168
Holden Commodore S/SV6: 5667
Holden Commodore SS: 3303
Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo: 2690
Ford Falcon XR8: 1875
Holden Monaro: 1615
HSV ClubSport/R8: 1391
Ford Falcon GT/GT-P: 881
Holden Commodore SV8: 610
HSV Coupe: 213

[galaxy xr8]

The GT/GT-P is looking allright againt's the Clubsport/R8.