Teen critical after road-spike crash

[weenie]

Bugger the road spikes, if your driving like a tool & dont stop, the police should be able take you out with a shoulder launched Javelin & end it on the spot. The police cant win, if they let him go & he gets into traffic & kills someone, they lose. In this case they put out spikes , he dies & they lose. Gee moral must be high in the police force (not). If the guy survived he would only get a slap on the wrist anyway.

[Ford_Boy]

the guy dd survive didnt he. i didnt see a mention of him dieing

[MITCHAY]

PIT maneuver FTW!

[bjr22n_]

if they stole my car, their lives wont be worth living. so a BIG pat on the back for the POLICE for doing their JOB.

It is one of the toughest job and prob the most underpaid job there is. yet people always complain about them. Cut some slack for our everyday hero's. They would be the first ones there to help you out in any situation, from a missing wallet to a missing person, to chasing reckless teens in a stolen car.

not to mention the sights of seeing dead body's, and messy crime scenes.... investigating and solving crimes, are part of this job. And then there is the media.... only to sell a few newspapers and watch their shows, they don't care if it ruins the lives of these everyday hero's.

They are only here to protect and to ensure our safety, they don't make the rules, they enforce the rules.

I have seen this first hand, as a result of my DAD been a NSW POLICE officer for the past 18 years......

and YAY for natural selection.

[Sprint347]

i'd rather a car thief hit a tree than rather than a car loaded witth innocent motorists.

good job by the police.

[stiddy]

Hopefully he dies, 1 less idiot on the street. I know its harsh, but serves them right for doing something so bloody stupid.

[TUF514]

noone hates cops more than me, but running is stupid.

if you ****up, stand up and face your convictors!

[zetec]

Natural Selection Sticks.

[Falchoon]

Originally Posted by stiddy

Hopefully he dies, 1 less idiot on the street. I know its harsh, but serves them right for doing something so bloody stupid.

I think that is a bit extreme. It's just a car he stole, hasn't raped anyone's granny. Not saying stealing a car and driving like a maniac is good, far from it, but not deserving of death. The cops did the right thing, it is unfortunate that it ended the way it did, but not totally unexpected. Could of been worse, the car might of spun out of control after hitting the spikes and hit a car full of innocent bystanders.

[Falcon_Phill]

Instead of how unsafe are spike strips, how about dont steal cars and cops wont have to use them? Oh wait thats illegal already. Whats the issue again?

[S3SR]

Originally Posted by photn

now dont get me wrong....what those kids where doing is stupid and wreckless. but spikes....come on... there has to be other Methods....

that or open fire on the car? like some already said better those idiots then some other guy or yourself hey.

any money they get off lightly

[Silver Ghia]

I believe there's now an enquiry about use of spikes. Just hope they dont overreact by deciding not to use spikes anymore.

In this case the spikes did their job and stopped a potential dangerous situation with the speeding car heading toward the population.

I have no time for the "bleeding hearts" sympathising with the criminals who didn't get away with it this time.

[Bill M]

On the ABC news tonight they said he lost control avoiding the spikes and hit the tree. Either way I don't care as he made his own choice and must bear responsibilty for his decision. I am glad he didn't take innocent people with him as too often happens.
cheers
Bill.

[StookEB]

Originally Posted by peedee

Go the police. Maybe we should start putting nudge bars back on polce cars like the mini coopers had in the late 60's and the americans have now.
The coopers used to stop a lot of speeding bikers around bathurst on the easter weekends hen the races were on, bike speeding refused to pull over touch on back whel of bike with nudge bar no more chase.

That would be good in certain situations but I can see someone
suing (spelling) the government for damage though.

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by stiddy

Hopefully he dies, 1 less idiot on the street. I know its harsh, but serves them right for doing something so bloody stupid.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It would save probbaly 10 or more cars form being stolen an that's got to be a good thing. I don't care if he's somebody's son they should have done a better job of bringing him up.

Remember the VICTIM(s) here are the family who have to go WITHOUT a car now, probably already doing it tough and now they have no car. Not the fool banged up in the public hospital at tax payer's expense because HE made the decision to break the law.

I dropped 50 cents on the floor at the shops today. A kid about 8 picked it up, when I asked him for it he looked me straight in the eye and said "It's MINE". Now I am 37 years old, 6ft 1" and 95Kgs and this 8 year old wants to argue with me over MY 50 cents. It just wouldn't have happened in our day. His mum made him give it back to me,lol. I hope he got a good talking to.

[stiddy]

Extreme? Maybe.. but if he survives, he gets a smack on the wrist and in 6 months whats he doing again?
Probably driving a stolen car at 170km/h to do his community service. The next time he looses control it wont be a tree. It could be YOUR son or daughter he smashes into. SO bloody oath I hope he dies. Might shake up a few other dickheads on the roads and make them think it could happen to them and hopefully change their attitude abit.

I for once congratulate the police..

[Wally]

Aren't we all so eager to jump on the bandwagon and say to hell with someone's life. I can certainly see that a death sentence is warranted for stealing a car and joyriding. In all my years I think this is the first time I've ever heard of young blokes speeding (I'm sure no one here has ever run their car to 170kph) ... these felons should be publically hanged.

If you think logically about this situation, the police supposedly gave up the chase... well obviously they didn't. The car had been doing 170 kph with a copper up it's date..... well if it had been spiked at 170 kph and hit a tree at that speed there wouldn't be anything left of the car, so it must have been travelling at a much slower speed and therefore unlikely to pose a threat to the township in the distant yonder. How is it that the thin blue line will stop you from driving an unroadworthy vehicle, yet they go out of there way to make a vehicle, driven by a frightened youth, totally unroadworthy in pursuit of truth, justice and the financial way?

I bet there are a couple of cops now who had a smug idea initially, but are wishing they hadn't been so clever. They may have no remorse over their daily revenue raising from average mum and dad, but this one will probably cause them a few nightmares when they realise what a grave risk they put those boys in...... and trust me, when you are much older you realise that at 18 they are still impulsive children.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by Wally

this one will probably cause them a few nightmares when they realise what a grave risk they put those boys in......

Those boys broke the law, do not try to blame the Police, they made their bed and now have to lie in it.

[Psycho Chicken]

What a complete **** up by the police.

Should of given the rear tyres a couple of loads of 12ga buckshot. Natural selection at it's best. Hope the tree survives.

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

/MITCHAY hugs his Brandt anti-theft system!

BWA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by Wally

Aren't we all so eager to jump on the bandwagon and say to hell with someone's life. I can certainly see that a death sentence is warranted for stealing a car and joyriding. In all my years I think this is the first time I've ever heard of young blokes speeding (I'm sure no one here has ever run their car to 170kph) ... these felons should be publically hanged.

If you think logically about this situation, the police supposedly gave up the chase... well obviously they didn't. The car had been doing 170 kph with a copper up it's date..... well if it had been spiked at 170 kph and hit a tree at that speed there wouldn't be anything left of the car, so it must have been travelling at a much slower speed and therefore unlikely to pose a threat to the township in the distant yonder. How is it that the thin blue line will stop you from driving an unroadworthy vehicle, yet they go out of there way to make a vehicle, driven by a frightened youth, totally unroadworthy in pursuit of truth, justice and the financial way?

I bet there are a couple of cops now who had a smug idea initially, but are wishing they hadn't been so clever. They may have no remorse over their daily revenue raising from average mum and dad, but this one will probably cause them a few nightmares when they realise what a grave risk they put those boys in...... and trust me, when you are much older you realise that at 18 they are still impulsive children.

That would be the best sarcasum posted on AFF for a while.

You're right Wally the dumbarse shits of kids deserve everything they get (accident and all)

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by Wally

Aren't we all so eager to jump on the bandwagon and say to hell with someone's life. I can certainly see that a death sentence is warranted for stealing a car and joyriding. In all my years I think this is the first time I've ever heard of young blokes speeding (I'm sure no one here has ever run their car to 170kph) ... these felons should be publically hanged.

If you think logically about this situation, the police supposedly gave up the chase... well obviously they didn't. The car had been doing 170 kph with a copper up it's date..... well if it had been spiked at 170 kph and hit a tree at that speed there wouldn't be anything left of the car, so it must have been travelling at a much slower speed and therefore unlikely to pose a threat to the township in the distant yonder. How is it that the thin blue line will stop you from driving an unroadworthy vehicle, yet they go out of there way to make a vehicle, driven by a frightened youth, totally unroadworthy in pursuit of truth, justice and the financial way?

I bet there are a couple of cops now who had a smug idea initially, but are wishing they hadn't been so clever. They may have no remorse over their daily revenue raising from average mum and dad, but this one will probably cause them a few nightmares when they realise what a grave risk they put those boys in...... and trust me, when you are much older you realise that at 18 they are still impulsive children.

Frightened youth? He wasn't too frightened when he made his choice to steal someone else's car. If he wants to drive fast he can do it safely in his own car like the rest of us. And if he gets caught he can pull over and face the consequences, like any sane person would do. And not be like that ex-judge who is trying to get out of paying $77 fine, what a pathetic creep he is.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Those boys broke the law, do not try to blame the Police, they made their bed and now have to lie in it.

Exactly, no one forced them to run from the Police......

[drcook]

Originally Posted by photn

there has to be other Methods....

list them.

[drcook]

Originally Posted by Wally

Aren't we all so eager to jump on the bandwagon and say to hell with someone's life. I can certainly see that a death sentence is warranted for stealing a car and joyriding. In all my years I think this is the first time I've ever heard of young blokes speeding (I'm sure no one here has ever run their car to 170kph) ... these felons should be publically hanged.

If you think logically about this situation, the police supposedly gave up the chase... well obviously they didn't. The car had been doing 170 kph with a copper up it's date..... well if it had been spiked at 170 kph and hit a tree at that speed there wouldn't be anything left of the car, so it must have been travelling at a much slower speed and therefore unlikely to pose a threat to the township in the distant yonder. How is it that the thin blue line will stop you from driving an unroadworthy vehicle, yet they go out of there way to make a vehicle, driven by a frightened youth, totally unroadworthy in pursuit of truth, justice and the financial way?

I bet there are a couple of cops now who had a smug idea initially, but are wishing they hadn't been so clever. They may have no remorse over their daily revenue raising from average mum and dad, but this one will probably cause them a few nightmares when they realise what a grave risk they put those boys in...... and trust me, when you are much older you realise that at 18 they are still impulsive children.

and in an alternate ending to this drama: -

the police call off the chase, the road spikes are not brought out, they keep going, lose control, hit the car carrying your family.

you'd be the first person lining up the police to tell them they didnt do enought to stop them.

[4Vman]

In the states they use spikes that are like star shaped nails with a small orifice in the middle to slowly release air, i wonder if we use them too?
In the states they also use guns to shoot the drivers and ram cars off the road too.....
I think were pretty careful here.

[wiseguy]

sorry guys call me harsh but if all car thieves ended this way it may deter these bastards stealing our pride and joys that we worked hard to get. i say suck shit but feel sorry for there families that this devastation affects.
and atleast no innocent people were injured.

[Wally]

Originally Posted by drcook

and in an alternate ending to this drama: -

the police call off the chase, the road spikes are not brought out, they keep going, lose control, hit the car carrying your family.

you'd be the first person lining up the police to tell them they didnt do enought to stop them.

No I would be asking why they pursued them @ 170 kph in the first place. Yours is a hypothetical, we are are dealing with an actual here, two boys badly injured.

These "what ifs" are just as bad as ACA hyperbole. It's like listening to a haughty great aunt...pursed lips, rigid neck and lots of indignent tuts.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Wally

No I would be asking why they pursued them @ 170 kph in the first place. Yours is a hypothetical, we are are dealing with an actual here, two boys badly injured.

These "what ifs" are just as bad as ACA hyperbole. It's like listening to a haughty great aunt...pursed lips, rigid neck and lots of indignent tuts.

Wouldnt the better question be, why are the criminals running at 170kmh? They are the ones dictating the speed, not the police.
What have the criminals committed that requires escape at that speed? Thats what the police have answer in the heat of the moment. Did they just murder someone? Have they just planted a bomb? Have they just committed a violent robbery?

[Full Noise]

I sincerely hope the tree wasn’t badly injured and I wish it a speedy recovery.

Originally Posted by photn

another wonderfull american invention. and as most of them designed to be "SAFE"...

now dont get me wrong....what those kids where doing is stupid and wreckless. but spikes....come on... there has to be other Methods....

We were all diverted through Katamatite so I didn’t get to see any of the action. While I was in Shepparton I saw the MCIU drive through town. Had I have known at the time that these were the circumstances of the accident, I would have grabbed the officer in the Territory and given him a handshake that probably would have broken his fingers. Then I would have had my photo taken with him.


And for all those bleeding hearts out there that want to defend these fools, ask yourselves this? How would you feel if they hit a car with your loved ones travelling inside instead of the tree?

My 2c

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by Wally

Aren't we all so eager to jump on the bandwagon and say to hell with someone's life. I can certainly see that a death sentence is warranted for stealing a car and joyriding. In all my years I think this is the first time I've ever heard of young blokes speeding (I'm sure no one here has ever run their car to 170kph) ... these felons should be publically hanged.

If you think logically about this situation, the police supposedly gave up the chase... well obviously they didn't. The car had been doing 170 kph with a copper up it's date..... well if it had been spiked at 170 kph and hit a tree at that speed there wouldn't be anything left of the car, so it must have been travelling at a much slower speed and therefore unlikely to pose a threat to the township in the distant yonder. How is it that the thin blue line will stop you from driving an unroadworthy vehicle, yet they go out of there way to make a vehicle, driven by a frightened youth, totally unroadworthy in pursuit of truth, justice and the financial way?

I bet there are a couple of cops now who had a smug idea initially, but are wishing they hadn't been so clever. They may have no remorse over their daily revenue raising from average mum and dad, but this one will probably cause them a few nightmares when they realise what a grave risk they put those boys in...... and trust me, when you are much older you realise that at 18 they are still impulsive children.

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