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Old 01-03-2007, 08:33 PM   #31
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Well some people on the forum have confirmed nothing has been done with the engine, so i wouldn't get my hopes up, its FPV afterall. Its good they finally released a performance based upgrade, as opposed to the gearbox upgrades of late which were due to Ford's initiative. However i feel they could have done more with such a model, after all its an anniversary. Also noticed that John Bowe is back at FPV.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:36 PM   #32
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have been told supercharged concepts are in trial...... Orion will be a hot car fpv wise.... 400kw i have been told by someone linked to fpv...
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:43 PM   #33
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have been told supercharged concepts are in trial...... Orion will be a hot car fpv wise.... 400kw i have been told by someone linked to fpv...
Sounds good for a range topping model, and that is where high performance sedans are heading in terms of power, 400+kw is going to be the new benchmark, M5 will head to 410kw(2009-2010), Audi RS6 this year will arrive with similar figures. Would be nice for FPV to be current in terms of power as opposed to a generation behind(FPV-290kw:2003-2007, BMW M5-294kw:1999-2003). However i read that a supercharged boss would cost 10 times more the standard boss and prodrive currently have 2 engines at there facilities. I always thought FPV would go to 350kw+ with a supercharged engine in a model during the BA-BF lifecycle, but year after year passed by, rumours grew and i think to this day something was to happen but never eventuated, hopefully something will appear in the future.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:47 PM   #34
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It does look good, but I was hoping for something more unique. The least they could have done was brought out new wheels rather than bolting the GT-P ones on.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:50 PM   #35
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R-spec handling option? Why not H.O.??? Rice SPEC, **** peck.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:52 PM   #36
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have been told supercharged concepts are in trial...... Orion will be a hot car fpv wise.... 400kw i have been told by someone linked to fpv...

400kw Falcon? :

Bit of chassis strengthening needed me thinks.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:53 PM   #37
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Guys, let the HO thing live in the 70's, I hope they never bring it back as it will never live up to expectations.

I think it looks hot, I would have liked to see a reverse in colours (gold paint/black stripes) aswell.

Like I said in the other thread. There are PLENTY of other manufacturers that only touch suspension and other little things when doing a special; Maseratti comes to mind, same with Subaru.

Are there any high res pics of the XR GT and 40th anni? That would make a sweet wallpaper.

Also good to see Ford/FPV looking back and remember its history.
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Old 01-03-2007, 08:54 PM   #38
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The T3 motors for the first time were fully hand assembled, including motor builder signiture just like BA/F GT's.

what they could have done this time is use the orion motor and use a colour that will be available when the orion comes. Like when the T3 came out with Blueprint.
Ahh now i see what you mean :
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:07 PM   #39
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Guys, let the HO thing live in the 70's, I hope they never bring it back as it will never live up to expectations.

I think it looks hot, I would have liked to see a reverse in colours (gold paint/black stripes) aswell.

Like I said in the other thread. There are PLENTY of other manufacturers that only touch suspension and other little things when doing a special; Maseratti comes to mind, same with Subaru.

Are there any high res pics of the XR GT and 40th anni? That would make a sweet wallpaper.

Also good to see Ford/FPV looking back and remember its history.
your on the money right there. let the HO name live in the past, because of fords recent models show, there wil be NOTHING that will set it aside.


let me rant for a bit----

the standard xy gt had 224 kw (at the engine)
the GT-HO phase 3 had 291kw (at the engine)

look at that difference its is awesome. 67 kw.

now look at todays models 290 kw (at the engine.)
ford will need at least 350kw to even be on par to bring back the GT HO name.

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350KW sounds on the money.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:15 PM   #41
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out: Looks great but where is the extra horsepower? If it's only 290kw (again) I for one will be sorely dissapointed (again). Come on Ford, the XY's were making 290kw with stone age technology, and now with quad cams,32 valves,fuel injection and enough electronics to launch the space shuttle if you cant make any more ponies I would be sacking somebody in the FPV dyno department (who is obviously out playing golf). Every year the 6 makes more power, why doesen't the top V8?
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:16 PM   #42
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To me that is just plain Sh!t, where is the so called GT Anniversary in that. Change some damper settings plus a few embroideries and charge $5.5k!!!! We have a 30th Anniversary at home and it still sh!ts on this... This is the worst effort yet FPV/Ford just plain crap.

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Old 01-03-2007, 09:27 PM   #43
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Guys, let the HO thing live in the 70's, I hope they never bring it back as it will never live up to expectations.

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Or even better let it live in another thread Poly!!! It will open the biggest can of worms here.


Now lets just hope this car has a tiny engine touch up and interior touch up and then it will really be the goods for 5k more than GT.
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:28 PM   #44
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Looks Good, but personally I think it could have had more.

They really are milking out the Boss 290 for all it’s worth aren’t they; have FPV tuned into a bunch of dairy farmers or what. The next milk loads in and it’s the 40th anniversary GT with some cosmetic changers and tweaked suspension.

I know it’s not all about Power but really they could have at least matched the GTS at 307Kw to actually set it aside from the Stock GT and help get some excitement happening till 2008, but no the mechanical department had a big night at the Sunday session the came in Monday and decided to let’s not but say we did.

If I had the Money would I buy it>>> Well yes
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Old 01-03-2007, 09:58 PM   #45
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It looks good. They talk about the suspension in the current GT is more comfort orientated and this is suspension is more performance orientated.

Should it of been that way to begin with? I thought the GT-P was more for comfort. Excuse me if I'm wrong as I'm not that clued up on these cars.

I don't own one, but if I forked out $60k+ you bet I'd want to feel all the bumps from a performance car-more fun! Otherwise I would buy a BMW etc.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:14 PM   #46
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350KW sounds on the money.
351Kw sounds better.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:22 PM   #47
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If you start pumping out 350kw cars they will need upgraded clutch, brakes, gearbox, emissions testing, etc that will turn it into a 90k GT! I am well aware that Holden managed to sell cars at that price but seriously. I feel Orion will hopefully have something special. Stock GT may be 310kw but there might also be a special edition as well. If you believe the rumors then HSV are going to release a fire breather soon. Hopefully Ford are aware of this and are planning the counter punch within the orion FPV range.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:31 PM   #48
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have been told supercharged concepts are in trial...... Orion will be a hot car fpv wise.... 400kw i have been told by someone linked to fpv...
is that your neighbours cousins gardner who happens to also do the lawn at FPV?



R-spec is the new HO (handling option) by the looks of it, seems we have gone from High Output to Rice Spec, :
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Do the people who take up the R spec option realise it has a on road warranty only. Soon as it leaves the road onto eastern creek or somewhere she is gonners.

I am disapointed with the looks. A gold one with black stripes would be nice as an options 125 of each .

Power i dont really care about its marketed at 290kw im sure they have more. Anyone remember the wheels Dyno test a year or so back.

Factory stated power on the XR8 / GT out shined the Gen III at the same power level. !!
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So in the same period HSV has added 47kw FPV have managed to come up with 6 stripe packages wow. :
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Simply another sign ford are not spending any more significant money on BA/BF, its probably a $500,000 - 1 million dollar upgrade if that. Looks great but it's far from being anything ground breaking or news worthy.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:02 PM   #52
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I reckon it looks hot and its good value for the extras you get. I don't know why people would complain. If they charged $75k for one, I'd expect more power etc, but they only want $2300 more than a standard GT.
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Factory stated power on the XR8 / GT out shined the Gen III at the same power level. !!
There not competing with a 5.7 Gen 3 anymore unfortionatley, The bars been raised
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Did we really expect anything else? I guess everyone bar the guy who designs stripes is at TRD.
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Did we really expect anything else? I guess everyone bar the guy who designs stripes is at TRD.


Nah he left as well, got an offer he could not refuse, now allowed to apply his experience to the wheels as well.

On another note, also related to the stripes, i looked at the Shelby GT-H, and it has the exact same stripe package as the 40th anniversary GT, the 2 stripes over the top, and the same stripe design on the side(Two thin lines surrounding one thick stripe)

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I reckon it looks hot and its good value for the extras you get. I don't know why people would complain. If they charged $75k for one, I'd expect more power etc, but they only want $2300 more than a standard GT.
Try over double that!!!! It is more like $5.5 k from a standard GT. So how do you get good value out of that even at $2300. Change of shockies costs about $1200 from what I have seen from some of the FPV boys in their section....
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**** factor on this car is very high! Stripes and handling package which you can now option into you standard GT or F6. Remind me again why its limited again, thats right the strips. Top work Ford another dissapointment.
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Power i dont really care about its marketed at 290kw im sure they have more. Anyone remember the wheels Dyno test a year or so back.

Factory stated power on the XR8 / GT out shined the Gen III at the same power level. !!
Exactly what I believe. Power wars power wars. But what it really needs is more torque down low. Address this and it would feel like a whole different engine.
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well...buy a black GT get the stripes painted on and upgrade the suspension...thats probably going to cost you about 5k
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Sorry gents, but that stripe package is too over the top for mine (literally!). We're the first to make fun of "rice" modifications on Jap cars, but this is the Aussie equivalent. "Bogan" anyone?

Sheesh, I just wonder how it will look in 5 years time.

PS. I have the same colour combo on my GT, and I just can't imagine it with those big stripes over the bonnet, the roof, and down the back. Overworked.
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