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Old 19-04-2007, 08:56 PM   #31
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Lucky my XR8 will qualify for free rego - it only burns premium ULP (more efficient combustion) and most of my pollution is converted into noise energy at the rear exhaust :-)
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Old 19-04-2007, 09:04 PM   #32
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I agree, and have been told the Hybrids generate a lot more pollution during manufacture then a regular car (due to the development and manufacture of the fuel cells etc)
FWIW, Toyota estimates that a Prius II needs to be driven for 20,000km to offset the extra energy/materials that go into the production of a Prius.
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Old 19-04-2007, 09:12 PM   #33
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Meh they can have their free rego. I rather drive my "non environmentally friendly WRX" than an oversized battery on wheels. Who can put a price on dignity? :
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Old 20-04-2007, 07:23 PM   #34
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When people think hybrid they think Prius. What about the Lexus RX400H and GS450H? These cars use the same amount of fuel as a Corolla and therefore they are no more environmentally friendly. Then there is also the extra environmental costs during production and disposal of the vehicles. Why should these cars get free rego for their apparent environmental benefits?
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Old 20-04-2007, 07:37 PM   #35
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When people think hybrid they think Prius. What about the Lexus RX400H and GS450H? These cars use the same amount of fuel as a Corolla and therefore they are no more environmentally friendly. Then there is also the extra environmental costs during production and disposal of the vehicles. Why should these cars get free rego for their apparent environmental benefits?
Because they are at least making an effort - may be a small effort. But it's better than NO effort.
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Old 20-04-2007, 07:50 PM   #36
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Great, so where do I go to get my free rego? My car doesnt blow smoke, and uses less fuel than a 4cyl on long trips, which given my location, I do a fair bit of.

Oh wait, is this only for those little ricebubble "fashionable greenie" cars?
Not bad for a V8 that gets smoked by 4-cylinders in a straight line Austin. And less fuel than a 4-cylinder? Maybe if it's rolling down a hill with the engine off!!!!!!! :jab: Stop driving an auto, you'll save fuel :

As Spoolman says, All for the price of a Big Mac a week. **** that, I'll buy a dozen tins of baked beans a week and fart it all out just to insult the greenie pricks. I'd still pollute less than them.

I was behind one of those self-righteous pricks tonight in his baby blue Pious, windows down (no doubt the tight-**** was saving on not running his air con) the ***** was moving forwads so slowly (I would be insulted to call it accelerating), a 5-year old on a skateboard would have taken off quicker up a hill, NO JOKE. I happily redlined and dumped into 2nd gear right next to his window as I overtook, knowing that in the entire life of my car, I will produce faaaar less harmful emissions than his car will. Not only is he a selfish tight-**** with no consideration for other road users by holding up traffic, he has no clue either... how? why?

Read this and tell me that a hybrid solves the Earth's problems... This is a world shaking report that's well known by now. So well known that when I got home, I even found this month's Royal Auto (RACV) magazine has the article in it!!!

http://www.reason.org/commentaries/d...20060719.shtml

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Old 20-04-2007, 07:56 PM   #37
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Not bad for a V8 that gets smoked by 4-cylinders in a straight line Austin. And less fuel than a 4-cylinder? Maybe if it's rolling down a hill with the engine off!!!!!!! :jab: Stop driving an auto, you'll save fuel :
Come see me up here where there arent speed cameras behind every tree, and we'll talk.
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Old 20-04-2007, 08:02 PM   #38
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No matter how big an effort they make, they are still delaying the inevitable. I'm here for a good time, not a long one, so I'll hop in me Falcon and blow smoke off my tires, and out my exhaust!!!

(Seriosuly, **** them.)
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Old 20-04-2007, 11:02 PM   #39
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Because they are at least making an effort - may be a small effort. But it's better than NO effort.
So a downgrade from say a falcon to a focus or fiesta is not making an effort as well? Why should 2 cars producing the same emissions not be treated the same?
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Old 21-04-2007, 09:38 AM   #40
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When people think hybrid they think Prius. What about the Lexus RX400H and GS450H? These cars use the same amount of fuel as a Corolla and therefore they are no more environmentally friendly. Then there is also the extra environmental costs during production and disposal of the vehicles. Why should these cars get free rego for their apparent environmental benefits?
Any Lexus will be on business rego anyway and surely exempt from any freebees.
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Old 21-04-2007, 10:50 AM   #41
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Well I am sure that any Lexus buyer isnt going to worry about free rego, but I am making the point that these cars are no more environmentally friendly than a small car so why should they benefit.
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Old 21-04-2007, 02:51 PM   #42
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Does it mean that I don't pay rego because Ford created less pollution developing and manufacturing my Falcon than Toyota did on that puss box hybrid thing?
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Old 21-04-2007, 05:11 PM   #43
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yeah absolute BS!!!!

rego pays for roads and other stuff as well, no 'environmentally' friendly car deserves any of that treatment more than an LPG or diesel.

waiving the rego fees is BS, everyone has to pay for basically using the bloody car on the roads, what makes the prius so special?
If the Government was serious instead of in serious suek up mode then they would remove the first years rego and TAC from any new car purchased with DSC ESP ABS and side airbags - these are the cars our kids will be driving and crashing in 5-10-15-20years.

They would also use the doubledip tax on fuel to help improve the quality of our pump petrol and diesel so we can get the best from BMW for example.
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Old 21-04-2007, 06:32 PM   #44
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What a crock, the 5th gear show in England did a road test with a Toyota Prius and 2 other 4 cylinder cars 1 was a VW golf,forgot the other.They did both city and motorway driving with the prius being run mainly on the electrics in the city,overall the Golf was more economical to run.( Albiet very minor difference) As when the Prius is on the Motorway it runs entirely on the petrol motor.Just another gimick.They are OK if driven totally in the city where you are never going over 60 kph.
The other car was a diesel Citroen something. The diesel ****ed all over the prius and golf for economy (overall) because of the varied tests that were run.
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Old 21-04-2007, 07:06 PM   #45
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If its a way to encourage people to buy environmentaly friendly cars, why not? Don't worry, i haven't turned into a tree-hugger! lol!
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Old 21-04-2007, 11:34 PM   #46
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So a downgrade from say a falcon to a focus or fiesta is not making an effort as well? Why should 2 cars producing the same emissions not be treated the same?
Fair point, but not many people would subsititute a luxury car that uses 13L per 100km for a Fiesta, but they would substitute it for a Lexus Hybrid that uses 7L per 100km. Somebody who was considering a 9L/100km 4 cyl has an option to substitute for 5L per 100km in the same class. As it's been said in here, the incentive is probably not going to swing people, but I can't say I see anything wrong with it. It would be nice to have a 50% excise reduction in Ethanol and Bio-diesel too.
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Old 23-04-2007, 09:20 PM   #47
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Even Ethanol isnt all its cracked up to be, according to Wheels.
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Old 23-04-2007, 10:40 PM   #48
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true, I would prefer bio-diesel/electric hybrid, but there is nothing in the world without any downsides, just perhaps better or more sensible ways than the way we're doing things, I think Ethanol is better than what we're pumping in to our cars at the moment.
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Old 24-04-2007, 09:55 AM   #49
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the free rego offsets the often higher price of these enviro friendly cars.
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Old 24-04-2007, 10:04 AM   #50
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I love this sort of stuff. Buy environmently friendly cars to save the plant.

What makes a car friendly?

Uses less fuel?
Less exhaust emmission?

Well if all petrol motor vehicles made before 2000 were totally banned then there would be a significant reduction on fuel usage and emmissions.

Much more than if every new car was a Prius.

Might upset the muscle car boys and e-mutants though.........

But them there would be no more VL commodores.

It is all just greenie guilt therapy, like some churches without the "hell and damnation" bit.
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Old 24-04-2007, 06:43 PM   #51
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the free rego offsets the often higher price of these enviro friendly cars.
There is a story in Wheels this month about "financing the feel good factor". According to them it takes 197000km to recoup the extra $$$. I guess free rego goes a little way to help.


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Even Ethanol isnt all its cracked up to be, according to Wheels.
It may not be all that it is cracked up to be, but atleast it might create a few more jobs in Australia rather than the middle east.
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