USA 2020 Election - Page 28

**knight rider** · 22-11-2020, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PG2

That's enough from the both of you. I know it would not only be me, but I don't log onto AFF to read the both of you take pot shots at each other.

If you want to continue, take it to PM.

Exactly, I'd just go have a talk with the wife if I wanted to go tic for tat
On top off that you just look like a dick - will any of this matter in a year's time "NO" so grow up

Some people need to take a good at themselves - give yourself a upper cut and wake up 😯

LG17 · 22-11-2020, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by knight rider

Exactly, I'd just go have a talk with the wife if I wanted to go tic for tat
On top off that you just look like a dick - will any of this matter in a year's time "NO" so grow up

Some people need to take a good at themselves - give yourself a upper cut and wake up 😯

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they manage to extricate trump from his current abode in January, that he spends the next 4 years trying everything possible to usurp the new government.

smoo · 22-11-2020, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LG17

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they manage to extricate trump from his current abode in January, that he spends the next 4 years trying everything possible to usurp the new government.

A bit like how the media and dems have tried to do that to him for the past four years?

falcon_bandit · 22-11-2020, 11:05 AM

Trumps most recent appearance looks like he has conceded, or am I just reading between the lines?

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9TEkc_1605904385

marty351 · 22-11-2020, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by smoo

A bit like how the media and dems have tried to do that to him for the past four years?

It will be an interesting 4 years, dems have almost endless, swept under the rug and just plain ignored issues.
Where do we start? ...

**PG2** · 22-11-2020, 01:30 PM

EVERYONE, PLEASE DON'T IGNORE

Stop calling people names. You know who you are.

Also, if GasoLane calls you on something don't reply with abuse. Generally, if he has posted something calling you out with some wit included, it is his way of moderating and telling you to change your ways. He has the unenviable task of trying to keep these areas of AFF under control and does a great job of doing so. One of the reasons he does such a great job is that he tries to keep any moderating light hearted.

If you don't like the fact that Gaso does use some wit when he moderates then no drama, he can start moderating like me and be a grumpy old bastard!!!!

LG17 · 22-11-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by smoo

A bit like how the media and dems have tried to do that to him for the past four years?

No, nothing like that.
Trump will continue to play very dirty.

superyob · 22-11-2020, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tickford.

Stop, but don't stop...
DOYR...
We're not stupid...
Genius with a 'J'!!

Sounding very similar to a couple of brainless morons on here...

This message has been deleted by PG2. Reason: If you don't change your ways and stop calling people names you are going to be having a break from AFF.

Interesting. It seems the narrative only goes one way. Yet again...

CoupeKing · 22-11-2020, 03:16 PM

"Georgia is probably gonna be the first state I'm gonna blow up and Mr. Kemp and the Sec of State need to go with it because they're in on the Dominion scam...It will be Biblical."

superyob · 22-11-2020, 03:59 PM

Soon it will be Emperor Trump...

**buggerlugs** · 22-11-2020, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Soon it will be Emperor Trump...

Yeah, don't think so. Another one bites the dust. The Judge scathing.......

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...71e02e9b8affe1

superyob · 22-11-2020, 05:37 PM

News.com...

T3rminator · 22-11-2020, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

News.com...

I know right. Have to wash my hands every time I reference a news corps link.

So, here are some alternatives....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-...vania/12908360

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/6360749002/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...acy-voters-say

T3rminator · 22-11-2020, 07:54 PM

"States must choose electors by Dec. 8; the Electoral College vote is set for Dec. 14. After a string of court losses, Trump’s campaign is seeking alternate routes to victory based on what it contends is the ability of GOP-led state legislatures to override the popular vote and select electors on their own. It’s far from certain that Republican state lawmakers would go along with such a plan."

Say what?!?! I'm now hearing it is actually legal for electors to disregard the vote of the people, and give their electoral college to a candidate of their choosing. WOW. Will the GOP pull that trigger?!

Citroënbender · 22-11-2020, 08:23 PM

It’s veering off-topic, but if they did - do you think they’d get away with it again?

PhilT2 · 22-11-2020, 08:29 PM

Not exactly true, most states will replace an elector if they don't follow the rules. Some don't, in 2016 I think half a dozen voted for a third candidate. Not enough to make a difference. But this is 2020 so who knows.

**buggerlugs** · 22-11-2020, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

News.com...

As compared to what, your mates youtube clips............

You do realize they have thrown out another of orange donny's lawsuits ?

What part of that don't you understand ?

Keep your head buried in the sand........

zilo · 22-11-2020, 11:28 PM

So many political experts in one thread.

Most I suspect have no front teeth due to debating skills.

LG17 · 22-11-2020, 11:50 PM

""States must choose electors by Dec. 8; the Electoral College vote is set for Dec. 14. After a string of court losses, Trump’s campaign is seeking alternate routes to victory based on what it contends is the ability of GOP-led state legislatures to override the popular vote and select electors on their own. It’s far from certain that Republican state lawmakers would go along with such a plan."

Say what?!?! I'm now hearing it is actually legal for electors to disregard the vote of the people, and give their electoral college to a candidate of their choosing. WOW. Will the GOP pull that trigger?!

Trump tried that in Pennsylvania (I think it was) and was told it won't be happening.

**buggerlugs** · 23-11-2020, 08:04 AM

One of Trumps own labels Orange Donny's legal effort a "National Embarrassment"
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...c1482374e65ffc
Has a fair point to. Sidney Powell makes all these claims of fraud outside the court room but not inside.........

Trevor 57 · 23-11-2020, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by smoo

A bit like how the media and dems have tried to do that to him for the past four years?

he deserves just about everything he got - he is a toxic human, with little to no care for anyone but himself

What are 'his', him personally, great achievements? Just remember when he signs those big flashy 'decrees', they mean **** all as the stuff still has to go through Parliament - don't get sucked in by his rhetoric, all he truly helped to do was talk up the economy and America - not much else

AlanD · 23-11-2020, 08:37 AM

The manner of how the President of the USA is elected is contained in The US Constitution and a number of Amendments to that Constitution.

They are:

Article II,
and Amendments numbered 12 (1804), 20 (1933), 22 (1951), 23 (1961) and 25 (1967). The bracketed numbers are the years when the numbered Amendment was ratified.

The ratification process is itself a convoluted one and can take several years being processed for various reasons.

If you want a rundown on the ratified Amendments to the US Constitution go here:

https://www.insider.com/what-are-all...istory-2018-11

There is a useful book that deals with the lack of democratic process in the Presidential election (by which I mean the election is not simply that the elected person enjoys a majority of the popular votes cast.).

Presidential Lottery: James A Michener, Secker & Warburg (1969)

Michener subtitles the book 'The reckless gamble in the American electoral system' and he writes with some authority because he was asked to consider, and accepted, appointment as an elector for Pennsylvania in 1968.

It makes for interesting reading.

The state where DJT inserted himself into the process was Michigan, by telephoning a member of the Wayne County certification panel who had voted to certify the vote, subsequent to the phone call the member attempted to alter their vote by Affidavit, which as it turns out isn't allowed by Michigan law. Detroit sits in Wayne County. DJT also invited two of the State's legislators (Republicans) to the White House last Friday for whatever purpose but I have some confidence that it was not to tell them about his latest golf exploits.

Go here for the full story:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/20/u...p-meeting.html

I have very high confidence that if a candidate for election to any parliament in Australia tried this sort of nonsense, the relevant State or Federal Police would be quickly involved and when proven the culprit would be likely detained with a custodial sentence.

superyob · 23-11-2020, 09:09 AM

Trump the Conqueror!!!

LG17 · 23-11-2020, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Trump the Conqueror!!!

Trump the ****wit!

**GasoLane** · 23-11-2020, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Trump the Conqueror!!!

Is that the one that's lost 32 court cases so far contesting the election

superyob · 23-11-2020, 09:46 AM

I don't know Mr Gas but the panty wetting by some about my opinion is delicious...

**cs123** · 23-11-2020, 10:01 AM

I think one of the interesting aspects of this will be post January.

Will Trump still retain a large influence over the GOP?

Trevor 57 · 23-11-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

I don't know Mr Gas but the panty wetting by some about my opinion is delicious...

so, you are behaving like a troll then, that will impress people no end

T3rminator · 23-11-2020, 10:37 AM

One for superyob.

330m people in the country and it came down to these two. No wonder Donald is ****ed he is going to lose.

Biden seems like an reasonable bloke, but I'm worried when Harris takes over. She looks like she has an axe to grind. Pence smashed her in the debate, so I think the media makes her look better than she actually is.

LG17 · 23-11-2020, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by T3rminator

One for superyob.

330m people in the country and it came down to these two. No wonder Donald is ****ed he is going to lose.

Biden seems like an reasonable bloke, but I'm worried when Harris takes over. She looks like she has an axe to grind. Pence smashed her in the debate, so I think the media makes her look better than she actually is.

I did some fact checking and that statement is false...