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Old 02-12-2015, 07:30 AM   #61
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I think the 2.7 would be sweet in the Everest

I agree. Would be ace.
Other markets also get the option of a manual.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:10 AM   #62
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On the subject of the Territory diesel, why is it that I almost need breathing apparatus every time I am driving behind one? They seem to blow copious amounts of smoke even on light acceleration. Isn't the dpf supposed to prevent this? Embarrassing and unacceptable for a modern diesel car. Most new trucks don't even blow smoke anymore.
They don't have a DPF. More then likely clogged air filter.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:37 AM   #63
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I wasn't aware of that, I thought all modern diesels had a dpf.
If they are that bad new I wouldn't want to imagine how they will be when they are 10-15 years old and clapped out. Oh well, I guess they will keep the EPA smoky vehicle report hotline busy.
It all depends on the emissions level the car is on. The Terri just scrapes through on Euro 4...due to its release date.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:59 AM   #64
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Is that the one where she's holding a torch? I wonder what else she uses that torch for...
I'm with you, I can't stand that annoying woman either. Have you heard the ads on the radio where she's whispering? They're downright painful.

As for Everest vs Territory, I saw an Everest on the road the other day and to me it looked like some bloated yank tank. Way too American for my liking.
Is there any new car you like?
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I wasn't aware of that, I thought all modern diesels had a dpf.
If they are that bad new I wouldn't want to imagine how they will be when they are 10-15 years old and clapped out. Oh well, I guess they will keep the EPA smoky vehicle report hotline busy.
I'm quite happy I don't have a DPF as I hear they can be problematic.
The Territory will let out puffs of smoke, rather than smoking away.

I have reported a few Magna's in the past the EPA are only interested if they continually smoke

Range rovers & Discovery's with the same engine also do this.
I believe the Characteristic is because they rev quite quickly and suddenly for a diesel when the boost comes on.
another more carlike similarity.
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Old 02-12-2015, 11:01 AM   #66
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For what its worth I dug up these figures (from reviews so allow variance)
Territory diesel 0-100 is 10.7sec
Everest 0-100 is 13.5sec

This shouldn't concern an Everest buyer, as its not what they are designed for.
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Well you can't really blame me for being bitter. I have only ever owned Aussie made Holdens and Fords and they are being taken away and replaced with ugly generic Yank, Thai and Korean garbage. It's depressing.
Well if that's the worst thing that's happened to you, I'd say you're doing pretty well.
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It's pretty clear you know squat. Go and complain on Facebook.
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Damn!!!!!.....
http://www.news.com.au/finance/busin...be3b7b875a04cd
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New Ford Everest SUV catches fire during a test drive, destroyed by the blaze
25 MINUTES AGODECEMBER 2, 2015

Frightening ordeal ... Fire and thick smoke engulf the 2015 Ford Everest, which burst into flames while being road tested by CarsGuide journalist Peter Barnwell. Picture: Supplied

FORD Australia is conducting an investigation into what caused its latest model — the new Everest SUV — to suddenly burst into flames during a test drive.
The car maker is yet to issue a recall until it examines the wreckage.
But the incident could affect not only the 1000 or so Everest SUVs on the road, but more than 100,000 Ford Ranger utes, which share the same engine and electrical system and are made on the same production line.
One of News Corp Australia’s motoring journalists, Peter Barnwell, was road testing the just-released new model — which was designed and engineered in Australia but is built in Thailand — when warning lights started to appear before the instrument display went blank and the engine shut down.
“As I rolled to a stop it just burst into flames,” said Mr Barnwell. “There were flames licking out from under the bonnet.”
The fire brigade arrived within five minutes but it took them more than 20 minutes to extinguish the flames.
The aftermath ... Emergency crews inspect the damage after the new SUV caught fire. Picture: Supplied
The aftermath ... Emergency crews inspect the damage after the new SUV caught fire. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied
“They couldn’t put the fire out for ages,” said Mr Barnwell. “Some of the material wouldn’t extinguish. There were explosions and bits of shrapnel firing 50m down the road. I got as far away from the thing as I could.”
The fire quickly engulfed the front of the car before working its way towards the cabin.
“A mum with all seats occupied with little kids or babies would have struggled to get them all out, especially if the thick acrid smoke wasn’t being blown to the side by a strong crosswind,” said Mr Barnwell.
Ford Australia spokesman Wes Sherwood said this is the first incident of this type.
“We are not aware of similar reports regarding the new Everest, the new Ranger or the previous Ranger,” said Mr Sherwood.
Destroyed ... The 2015 Ford Everest was gutted by the blaze. Picture: Supplied
Destroyed ... The 2015 Ford Everest was gutted by the blaze. Picture: SuppliedSource:Supplied
The fire happened late Tuesday on Redhead Road near Newcastle on the NSW central coast, about 175km north of Sydney.
The burnt wreckage was due to arrive late Wednesday at Ford Australia’s engineering headquarters in Melbourne, where a thorough investigation will be conducted.
“We want to assure customers we’re doing everything we can to investigate the matter,” said Mr Sherwood.
Ford says a recall would be premature until they know the cause of the incident.
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decision made?????? not an Everest...
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If you prefer non smoking get the Terry
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The black smoke only comes out the rear on the diesels.
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A bit of a concern with the Everest catching fire yesterday - yikes!! I wonder how the journo's write up on it will read?
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A bit of a concern with the Everest catching fire yesterday - yikes!! I wonder how the journo's write up on it will read?
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Old 03-12-2015, 09:28 PM   #77
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Territory, if you don't fancy being cooked alive. The Thai takeaway box should go back to where it belongs.
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