Queensland to consider.02 blood alcohol limit

[drew`SEVNT5]

Originally Posted by The Monty

I think it can only be a good thing. I have no sympathy for anyone that wants to have even one drink and then hop behind the wheel of a car. And if people think its ok to have just one drink of wine at lunch time, then drive somewhere, does that mean its ok to have one line of coke, one joint, or shoot up just one hit of heroin before you drive as well?

Nice hyperbole.

Key difference is, Alcohol is legal, and has a prescribed limit...

Coke, Weed, Herion are not and do not.


Next BS argument strategy?

[SLO AU XR8]

Originally Posted by Scotty85

I can see how people feel about this being simply as another way of the dear QLD government attempting to make more money.
To be honest, its true. Why on earth would the BAC be .02 when just ONE drink would put you over this? Like many have said, just make it 0. But wait, that will upset the simple people, who can't think 5 minutes in front and realise .02 is no different from 0. Just means that semi-sensible (ones that drink before driving BUT under the 0.05, as opposed to not drinking at all around a drive) people are now going to be hit up for money.
Looks like that b**** is right on the MONEY again...

Yep, and we have our chance to tell the ********** what we think here: http://www.getinvolved.qld.gov.au/co...activityID=275

[Wally]

I bet the wowsers couldn't believe their good fortune in reading this in the Sunday Mail. Saturday and Sunday mornings would be manna from heaven for the coppers as the party goers register in excess of 0.02 from the night before.

Yet another piece of puritanical legislation in the guise of pandering to the silent majority.

[paule11]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Nah, you'll just bend over and take it like the rest of us.

You're pretty much powerless like the rest of us..

Maybe but he appears to have great wisdom and knowledge.

If we all voted for independants not just labor and LNP it would be harder for dictators like Bligh to exist in politics

[302 XC]

isnt bligh comin up for election soon
its time to ACTUALLY look like she is doin something for the hard earned $$$ she earns
so as said above to all the QLD people
pants down and wait for it

[Wally]

It'll be too late by then. We have until May to change their minds. Part of the legislation will include bans for life after two over the limit detections. Work permits will also be eliminated.

Fortunately for Vic and NSW, their pollies already dismissed the idea.

[XR_6falcon]

As much the government thinks they can, they can't legisate people's stupidity and laws like this are useless and will make life harder for the ones that do nothing wrong

[fangq]

Originally Posted by jpd80

It's not up to any of us to decide whether 0.02 or any other limit is acceptable,
governments will do what they please and we either like it or lump it.

I for one will be very careful about how much and when I drink, there is no margin for error now...
After a big night out, the time to reduce to 0.02 as compared to 0.05 could be an extra 3-4 hours...

I'd consider it if they also introduced a .02 limit for politicians prior to them entering the parliamentary chamber.

Steve

[Wally]

If 20% of accidents involve alcohol, it's obvious the remaining 80% are really bad drivers and should consider taking up the bottle.

[JC807]

Originally Posted by fangq

I'd consider it if they also introduced a .02 limit for politicians prior to them entering the parliamentary chamber.

Steve

****** "here, here"!

[jcxr]

Originally Posted by fangq

I'd consider it if they also introduced a .02 limit for politicians prior to them entering the parliamentary chamber.

Steve

You sir, are our next PM.

[vztrt]

I'm against it as its another step in this country becoming a more soft then it already is. Should start looking at moving to NZ....

[388cube_edxr8]

Anna Bligh... always right on the money... our money.

[Jim Goose]

It amazes me (well ok it doesnt anymore) how pathetic some of the replies on here are.
Discuss the TOPIC at hand, instead of latching onto ABSOLUTE GARBAGE POLITICAL CRAP people....

[Eaturbo]

Just Make the limit 0. Be alot easier than trying to guess if you should drive or not. If you have drunk that much that you blow over the next morning after a night out than you are not fit to drive be it alcohol related or fatigue related. I am sure that if one of you had a kid killed by a driver that was fatigued and still with grog in there system you might change your mind. I have driven heaps of times when younger and being under 0.05 just the next morning and its not safe. I dont know if its the combo of a hang over, fatigue, and still some grog in your system but you are not in the right condition to be driving

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

It amazes me (well ok it doesnt anymore) how pathetic some of the replies on here are.
Discuss the TOPIC at hand, instead of latching onto ABSOLUTE GARBAGE POLITICAL CRAP people....

Hell hath no fury like a true believer scorned........

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by fangq

I'd consider it if they also introduced a .02 limit for politicians prior to them entering the parliamentary chamber.

Steve

The parliamentary rhetoric makes far more sense when metred out by rambling drunks,
heaven forbid we make the poor sods present sober and meaningful.....

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by flappist

Hell hath no fury like a true believer scorned........

There you go, typical reaction from one who typically believes that everyone who doesnt agree with him MUST be a supporter of the "other" team...

Strangley enough at no stage did i mention your name on here, sign of a guilty conscience.

And typically contribute nothing to the debate at hand....
Instead of dribbling rubbish, how about you stick to the topic at hand?

Or go open an other beer.... what a pathetic attitude

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Eaturbo

Just Make the limit 0. Be alot easier than trying to guess if you should drive or not. If you have drunk that much that you blow over the next morning after a night out than you are not fit to drive be it alcohol related or fatigue related. I am sure that if one of you had a kid killed by a driver that was fatigued and still with grog in there system you might change your mind. I have driven heaps of times when younger and being under 0.05 just the next morning and its not safe. I dont know if its the combo of a hang over, fatigue, and still some grog in your system but you are not in the right condition to be driving

So you have no problem losing your license for eating an icecream?

http://www.cruisingbrisbane.com/foru...riving-charge/

[tezxr8man]

Originally Posted by The Monty

I cant believe the amount of people on here who think its fine to drink and drive. You guys are just as bad as the alcoholics who flout the law, I am seriously blown out by some of these comments.

I think the real problem is that once again the pollies running the show are taking more and more of our freedoms away. why not just make driving full stop illegal??? alcohol isn't the problem just as speeding isn't th poblem. IDIOTS are the problem and you can't legislate against stupidity! if we could the state wouldn't have such a dropkick running it into the ground

[jpd80]

If anything, the government should be jumping on impatient drivers acting like tools,
or how about that dopey ballsack cruising along in the right lane blocking the ambulance?

There are a lot of other moronic actions on the road that could be checked stopping
situations escalating into serious accidents or worse fatalities.

Just a couple of examples but not all accidents are caused by somebody 10 km/hr over someone at 0.03 BAC

[geckoGT]

I have not read this thread yet, I will when I get time. I just thought I would point out something that you will all find a bit interesting.

Today we had 4 crews in station (quiet morning, it doesn't happen often), so we talked about this news. Out of all of us (eight officers) had been to multiple crashes that involved one or more drivers being done for DUI, not one had seen someone blow a low level (less than 0.08). Most of the offences involved BAC greater than 0.1.

My point is, in our experience reducing the legal level will not prevent crashes and will not reduce any great number of deaths as most DUI's involving crashes are 0.08 or more. Therefore because they are already higher than the present limit at 0.05, how will dropping the limit to 0.02 prevent this?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

I have not read this thread yet, I will when I get time. I just thought I would point out something that you will all find a bit interesting.

Today we had 4 crews in station (quiet morning, it doesn't happen often), so we talked about this news. Out of all of us (eight officers) had been to multiple crashes that involved one or more drivers being done for DUI, not one had seen someone blow a low level (less than 0.08). Most of the offences involved BAC greater than 0.1.

My point is, in our experience reducing the legal level will not prevent crashes and will not reduce any great number of deaths as most DUI's involving crashes are 0.08 or more. Therefore because they are already higher than the present limit at 0.05, how will dropping the limit to 0.02 prevent this?

Thank you very much, I wish the government would start listening to
first responder evidence and the medical records which are readily available .

[Jim Goose]

Legislation alone wont help things.
Its also a social issue.
It is apparent (though most people are too stupid to see it) that Australias obcession with alcohol and getting ****ed is a major problem.
A lot of people see it as "ok" to drive, or too act like a tool in public etc... while under the influence.

In the good old days the Police used to throw people in the watch-house to sober up when caught drink driving.

WHY ISNT THIS BEING DONE TODAY?

How many times have it been reported that people get caught twice or even three times in ONE nite simpley because the Police let them go home ????

Easy fix.... Get caught drink driving, loose your car to the impound for 48hrs. Go to the Watch house until they sober up.

Oh wait, this will mean the watch house would have to be at least 5 times their current sizes due to the large amounts of morons out there.

[BHDOGS]

I will be honest and say i have a totally intolerant stance on alcohol its an addicted poisons drug that shouldn't be legal in any shape or form it should be used sparing and only for medical purposes like every other drug in the world, however i know that will never happen and keep my views to myself i dont preach to people. However i deal with the consequences of alcohol on almost a daily basis at work so that has skewed my view a fair bit on the subject and i believe this is a step in the right direction and a limit of 0.00 should be brought in immediately and if you dont agree with my thoughts that's fine to.

[Eaturbo]

Originally Posted by flappist

So you have no problem losing your license for eating an icecream?

http://www.cruisingbrisbane.com/foru...riving-charge/

Yeah everybody that gets caught driving under the infulence has been eating Rum and Raisin. Get real, they check you again after an hour from the first reading. You would than be found 0. I suppose you are going to bring up cough medicine next. I am talking legit drink drivers mate

[bcr2734]

my mate got let off because they couldnt get to him for his second readingin time for it to go under .05. Glory to the country where cops are very far between us and the station. I drive a truck so i am always 0.0000000. But i would like to see polly's be the same, it always raises the question y we have to pay for there drivers to take them to work? I bet if they had to drive they wouldnt b able too.


Cheers

[burnz]

if ppl consider "a" beer with lunch, a drink driver then we live in a sad country.

[geckoGT]

I scrape the results of road trauma out of a car for a living so I have no tolerance for drink drivers, no tolerance for drunks that produce hundreds of call outs for us on friday and saturday night shifts or alcohol fueled violence. But I do enjoy 1 or maybe 2 Hahn Premium Lights over 3-4 hours during a family BBQ, just for the occasion. The only people this law change will effect are others like me, and many of us here.

I vote a big no!

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by burnz

if ppl consider "a" beer with lunch, a drink driver then we live in a sad country.

No the sad fact is people who make those sorts of comments dont understand or care to understand what alcoholism is or drink driving.

And before you say im a "wowser" or "Un-Australian" or what ever else people like to throw at each whenever going agaisnt the norm is socially unacceptable (Even when its morally the right thing to do), why even make such a comment?

The debate is about drink driving....

If you cant live ONE day with out craving a beer then something is wrong with you... And yea i even put smokers on there too.

"A" beer... oh well thats ok... maybe ill have two beers... oh wait... three.. ill be ok... ill have another... yes its all good.