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07-05-2010, 02:15 PM | #61 | |||
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It is just interesting that there is a black and white view that you cannot sell the most cars and make a profit. Why not? What economic/business/commercial/etc reason is there for this? Again, didn't Ford US just achieve this? Admittedly, they were only on the top of sales for April (and another month...can't remember), but if the trend continues they will be selling higher volumes than their competitors using profitable vehicles. I understand it is a different market over there influenced by different situations but i can't believe that it is that black and white here? What about all of the other concepts that impact sales such as quality, brand loyalty, value, customer service, effective marketing etc. Surely it isn't as simple as 'Ford need to drop $10,000 from the retail price of their cars and start losing money to sell as many units as their competitors'? The above concepts are much harder to implement, but that seems to be the winning approach of Ford US and it is surely 'paying' off for them.
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07-05-2010, 02:19 PM | #62 | |||
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You cant expect to regain market leadership in sales numbers over night, market share is a gradual process, not an instant process, nor can you expect the factory to increase production easily, cost effectively or quickly... It all takes time and in some cases years.. Be patient. The other thing you need to remember is the old 80/20 rule...
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07-05-2010, 02:47 PM | #63 | ||
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Yep, totally agree.
"Baby steps"
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07-05-2010, 02:54 PM | #64 | ||
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Awesome work Ford Australia. This is what we as Ford fans like to see.
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07-05-2010, 03:09 PM | #65 | |||
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Holden also made substantial losses in 2008 and 2007. |
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07-05-2010, 03:30 PM | #66 | ||
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This is awesome news.
Congrats to FoA and all the guys here who made it possible. Keep up the good work. Oh, and (can't resist) Shove that in your pipe hole and smoke it, GM! |
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07-05-2010, 03:42 PM | #67 | ||
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Great news Ford Aus...... Now some more focus on less warranty issues and the future should surely be profitable!!!!! Not happy about the I6 decision tho Oh well.
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07-05-2010, 04:20 PM | #68 | |||
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What I6 decision ? The one to continue building it ? Ford have rightsized the business, 'Laser focussed' on producing cars that "can be sold", not "need to be sold"... GM ? The more things change, the more they stay the same |
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07-05-2010, 05:24 PM | #69 | ||
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Even better news then! Pity the Falcon won't see it next year though.....with 'Two' Turbo's where all that room is???
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07-05-2010, 05:49 PM | #70 | ||
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Well that's a nice [and unexpected] surprise. Well done Ford.
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07-05-2010, 06:04 PM | #71 | |||
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07-05-2010, 06:19 PM | #72 | |||
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Maybe he thinks coyote is a v6? |
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07-05-2010, 06:55 PM | #73 | |||
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07-05-2010, 07:57 PM | #74 | |||
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07-05-2010, 08:02 PM | #75 | ||
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Yeah isn't I6 around till 2015?
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07-05-2010, 08:03 PM | #76 | ||
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Oh God it's a 4! .... Hmmmmm???? The times they are a changing!!!!!
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07-05-2010, 08:32 PM | #77 | |||
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Mate do some reading ... Coyote = new 5 litre V8 Falcon inc SC'd version Ecoboost = new Turbo I4 Falcon I6 Continues as always .... Suggest you ask questions |
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07-05-2010, 08:42 PM | #78 | |||
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Marin Beurela has done an excellent job and understands that if you are selling hot dogs at the Melbourne Cup (for instance) and making money on every hot dog, there is no way the guys chasing best selling hot dog status can send you broke while you continue to make profit on every hot doggie sold. I want Falcon around for a LONG time. Just build the G6ET Ute before Holden does a Calais 6.0l ute. Even a 50th anniversary Falcon G6ET ute is better than none. Last edited by Walt Kowalski; 07-05-2010 at 08:57 PM. |
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07-05-2010, 10:51 PM | #79 | ||
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Gee, the trolls have gone amazingly quiet.
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07-05-2010, 11:02 PM | #80 | |||
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07-05-2010, 11:09 PM | #81 | |||
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08-05-2010, 12:28 AM | #82 | |||
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08-05-2010, 12:19 PM | #83 | ||
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Where's brazen and his band of GM superheros!?
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08-05-2010, 02:44 PM | #84 | |||
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08-05-2010, 03:55 PM | #85 | |||
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I was just down at Holden picking up my paycheque with some motoring journalists. A few more positive GM forum posts and I also get a free Epica. Seriously, well done Ford. Territory will be a cash cow next year with the diesel so hopefully it can only get better. PS what I learnt from my pro-GM journalist cohorts... *Falcon G8E is very likely *There is a diesel silver Falcon mule running around *Statesman is dead to be replaced with Caprice and Caprice V *Columnn shift being developed for Commodore (no joke, what the...???) *Dedicated LPG Commodore coming in November *Only style change to upgraded Commodore is front bumper/grill with a softer front end, wheels and interior also changed. Back looks the same. |
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08-05-2010, 04:44 PM | #86 | |||
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08-05-2010, 06:24 PM | #88 | |||
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No...the puzzle NOW is complete. People have already clearly shown they don't want 8-Cylinder luxury. The current line-up is complete as it is. Its results speak for themselves.
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08-05-2010, 06:47 PM | #89 | |||
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I'm thinking V8 will end up being a FPV only product too.. |
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08-05-2010, 06:51 PM | #90 | |||
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