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Old 02-09-2012, 01:38 AM   #61
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Has anyone read the original article? I cant find it so I am not prepared to comment on what hse "actually" wrote. As for her inheritence, she has multiplied it more than a hundred fold and from what I have seen on TV interviews with those who have worked for her, she works some crazy long hours so I am not sure what she could do more to win peoples respect. As for her comments that are shown in that article i agree if you want to get ahead less smoking and beers would surely help and lower taxs would be nice. As a business owner I can't but agree with her comments regarding government screwing business in this country.
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I think she has a right to say what ever she thinks. ( but i think the media have like usual drummed it up a bit and it's not a in depth representation of what she thinks at all really.

Why should she give her kids anything at all, just because she has wealth, that has noting to do with it at all.

Your kids have no right to money, just because you are wealthy at all.

My dad made things as hard as he could on me, to instill discipline and direction in my life. he was never my mate, but always my Dad and if he ask me to do something, i do it.

John Laws never gave his son any money, did he.
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I think she has a right to say what ever she thinks. ( but i think the media have like usual drummed it up a bit and it's not a in depth representation of what she thinks at all really.

Why should she give her kids anything at all, just because she has wealth, that has noting to do with it at all.

Your kids have no right to money, just because you are wealthy at all.

My dad made things as hard as he could on me, to instill discipline and direction in my life. he was never my mate, but always my Dad and if he ask me to do something, i do it.

John Laws never gave his son any money, did he.

Thats funny.. her father didnt leave her anything in his will..... she took it all through court cases and sleigh of hand by stealing from the trust her father set up. It was all going to Rose, but she didnt like that idea.

She then promised her kids that the money she had set up in a trust fund would be handed to them at certain age... and it didnt. She then changed the terms... then it turned into a very public and messy court case.

She is hardly a person to dish out "advice" when her own dealings with her own family (especially when her father died) certainly stink....
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Shes just ****ed that she's unbangable, even with all that money.

You would think she could afford to get all that fat sucked out of her *** so she can get laid and stop being so bitter.

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Ignoring the old-money pie wagon that wheeled out the comment (Her old man was a far better role model I think), she is, unfortunately, pretty much right.

Be honest...most of us know people or families that are quite happy to sit back and avoid work, sucking on the public teat as much as possible, while our own kids cannot gain access to welfare help of any sort. My son was trying to get simple rent assistance, but was told no, because he wasn't an "independent person" until he was 24 years of age. I rang them and said"he's moved out of home on his own to work in a town 500km away...how is he not "independent"?", and they said that he wasn't...unless we had kicked him out of home or it was "unsafe" for him to remain at home...which opens a whole other tin of worms for everyone if you try to fake that. They also said we earn too much, and it's up to us to support him financially until he's 24.

I'm glad to know that the $36,000 in income tax I paid last year is going to support some useless bludging bastards who never have and never will hold a job instead of helping out our own kids when they need it...
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shes bang on the money..

lazy drunk bong smoking dole bludging bums are always sooking how hard life is...
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There are many many people who arent cash or asset rich and are happy in their life/lifestyle , than there are those who are cash rich and complain

Earn money, enjoy it, with your family and friends ,live happy
Or have all the money youll never spend, dont enjoy your family and friends and die unhappy

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I'd probably do her for $30 billion. Might brighten her up a bit too.

you'd probably do her after 2 schooners , and go the extra mile , hoping to become her toy boy.
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shes bang on the money..

lazy drunk bong smoking dole bludging bums are always sooking how hard life is...
Do they?
Wouldn't know. Haven't got the time or the energy to waste on hearing their crys of "Woe is me!". To busy working to support my family...............and theirs it seems.

I am happy to say I have never been one of these lazy drunk bong smoking dole bludging bums that you refer to.
Mind you I have made some really poor decisions in life but they were my decisions and my mistakes alone. What do you do? You get up, dust yourself off, keep throwing punches and move forward. That's life. You have to work it or it will work you.
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Australia is predominantly a nation of knockers, people sucking on sour grapes, quick to cut down those who have more, criticise those with a percieved position of more success.

I am constantly amased that people automatically associate someone elses affluence with happiness....! The affluent person is not necessarily happy, just as the 'poor' person is not necessarily unhappy!

While Gina was always going to attract a lot of criticism for her comment relating to those less affluent people that perpetuate their lack of affluence through lifestyle choices, unfortunately the message is (atleast) in part true. Because its these that are bitter about it that predominantly have made their own bed!

The ones that bang on loudest about being treated unfairly, begrudging of those with 'more', the same people resentful about authority, the legal system, welfare, and those that reckon Police are pigs.... theyre the ones she's referring to.

Our society is made up with millions of them.

And I personally agree with her that a very large percentage of them are 'poor' through their own doing, their choices, the decisions they make and the way they prioritise resources at their own disposal.

Shes a tall poppy, and another one of Australias easy targets.

And perspective needs to be kept, with no disrespect to her - it is only her opinion, it is not the only one that counts...
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Do they?
Wouldn't know. Haven't got the time or the energy to waste on hearing their crys of "Woe is me!". To busy working to support my family...............and theirs it seems.

I am happy to say I have never been one of these lazy drunk bong smoking dole bludging bums that you refer to.
Mind you I have made some really poor decisions in life but they were my decisions and my mistakes alone. What do you do? You get up, dust yourself off, keep throwing punches and move forward. That's life. You have to work it or it will work you.
a good mate of mine use to sit around drinking cheap booze and bongs for breakfast on the dole.. hating on rich people..

in a moment of clarity he gave up bongs.. started working.. and a respect of money earnt..

life got really good.. im so proud of him.....
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tex.. its the british blood in us all that you are talking about .. ;)
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Good advice from Gina.

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Eat less and exercise more. Health is the most important asset to your life.
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At least Gina doesn't employ spies and thugs to go around to peoples homes and enforce a no drinking or smoking policy as Henry did.
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At least Gina doesn't employ spies and thugs to go around to peoples homes and enforce a no drinking or smoking policy as Henry did.
assuming he actually did this, you would also need to tell us that he brought in the 40 hour week
he also cut the working week from 6 days to 5 while not cutting his employees wages
he also employed minority groups (both racial and disabled) when no others would


but i guess he must have been evil, because he was running a business that employed the normal folk and allowed them to survive
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Im on a low single income with a family to support so cant work any "harder" then im already working, without sacraficing my responsibilties as a parent too. I would make more money for my self if i could, she must of foggot there only 24hours in a day and you need to sleep for some of them too.

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It is well documented.
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you'd probably do her after 2 schooners , and go the extra mile , hoping to become her toy boy.
That is also acceptable.
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That is also acceptable.
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It is well documented.
all of it is, so why only choose to focus on the potential negative
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all of it is, so why only choose to focus on the potential negative
Each to their own standards...
I think sending thugs around to bash up your workers because they drink and smoke is unacceptable...
you think it is a potential negative.
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Each to their own standards...
I think sending thugs around to bash up your workers because they drink and smoke is unacceptable...
you think it is a potential negative.
how many did it happen to
why were they sent around

and what year was the publication you read released

the book i have was produced approximately 35 years after henry's death, and around 50 or more years since it allegedly happened, so i cannot be sure everything is correct and in context - can you
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chop chop tall poppy.. our country would be much the poorer without the ginas, twiggys and palmers etc..

yea they make decisions based on making themselves richer.. dont we all do that on a smaller scale..
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Pull your head in, seriously.

She is right about one thing, there are the dole bludgers that expect everything handed to them on a platter, all because of this notion of entitlement that being on welfare engenders. Where she is wrong is the insinuation that all poor people are dole bludging drunks. The majority of Australians aren't dole bludgers, they work hard and they don't **** their money away, all in the hope that they may improve their lot in life. The problem is (and has been for many years now), is that the whole system is geared to be exactly the way it is. No amount of hard work, no amount of thrift will bring the riches and rewards one would seek, without f..king someone over. If one doesn't embrace the "credit is good" mantra, they will not be "rich", ever.

There is no -ism that will change the status quo. The only way things will change is when people realise they are being screwed over by the very institutions that are meant to be looking out for them, that are meant to be serving them and not the other way around. Until then, the Gina Reinharts of the world will do as they please.
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First thought is there goes her new career in politics, MWTB- crack me up! i'll go halves with ya, theres enough of her for both of us (joke Joice!) Of course she is right to a certain extent but maybe if there were more jobs available Oz wide there would be less people drinking their lives away.... What will Gina do to fix this issue? Employ more 457 workers of course. What will the guvmint do to fix this issue? Let her employ even more 457 workers.... What will the unemployed (according to Gina) do? Drink even more p#*$......

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Get stuffed Loud Noises, you sound exactly like the whingers you say she talked about!

Where you are wrong is saying she insinuated all poor people are dole bludging drinkers. Here is what she said

"Let's get through the class warfare smokescreen. We need to regain our roots and encourage people to invest and build. There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire.
If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain; do something to make more money yourself — spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing, and more time working. Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others. Australia needs such people"

Not that tuff was it. The leftist media puts out crap and a dimwitt like you runs with it without even checking what she said. No facts for Load Noises not even a Google search, just pure bile and envy.

Go OCCUPY something!
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First thought is there goes her new career in politics, MWTB- crack me up! i'll go halves with ya, theres enough of her for both of us (joke Joice!) Of course she is right to a certain extent but maybe if there were more jobs available Oz wide there would be less people drinking their lives away.... What will Gina do to fix this issue? Employ more 457 workers of course. What will the guvmint do to fix this issue? Let her employ even more 457 workers.... What will the unemployed (according to Gina) do? Drink even more p#*$......

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Not that tuff was it. The leftist media puts out crap and a dimwitt like you runs with it without even checking what she said. No facts for Load Noises not even a Google search, just pure bile and envy.

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Get stuffed Loud Noises, you sound exactly like the whingers you say she talked about!

Where you are wrong is saying she insinuated all poor people are dole bludging drinkers. Here is what she said

"Let's get through the class warfare smokescreen. We need to regain our roots and encourage people to invest and build. There is no monopoly on becoming a millionaire.
If you're jealous of those with more money, don't just sit there and complain; do something to make more money yourself — spend less time drinking, or smoking and socializing, and more time working. Become one of those people who work hard, invest and build, and at the same time create employment and opportunities for others. Australia needs such people"

Not that tuff was it. The leftist media puts out crap and a dimwitt like you runs with it without even checking what she said. No facts for Load Noises not even a Google search, just pure bile and envy.

Go OCCUPY something!
Firstly, you don't know me from a hole in the ground, so yes, pull you head in.

I have been on both ends of the economic spectrum, I started off as a poor uni student, barely making ends meet pulling beers at a pub at nights. An opportunity came up where I opened my own business, borrowed through the nose to employ people as the business grew, did some ethically questionable things to make even more money and employ more people. After a while, I stopped to have a think about what I was doing in the pursuit of wealth and an extravagant materialistic lifestyle. I also thought long and hard about the crap going on in the world and whether my actions and decisions were helping to better the world or screw it over some more. At the end of the day, I woke up to myself and realised I was but another cog in the machine built to keep the common man down. I sold up everything, settled all my debts and gave away what was left of the proceeds to groups that were actually making a difference. I haven't regretted it for one second.

In a world of finite resources, for someone to be rich, others have to be poor. Ponder that then get back to me.
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