People that sell problematic cars and don't disclose?

[Hulsty]

Sounds like a naive purchaser to me, blowing all his money on his first car with nothing in reserve? Not a good idea. Being his well experience mate you should have given better life advice to him.

When I bought my first car it was $4500, I had a spare $2K just incase and it got used, first service was $650, needed tyres not long after etc etc. With any car you always need some contingency for minor issues.

IMO there is no way of knowing if the seller was pulling a shifty, the seller could have been totally unaware and the problem literally happening 1km after taking it off the concrete. Recently after a 1500km trip I parked my car up for a few weeks, jumped in it, brakes were stuff, failed master cylinder while just sitting there.

[Iggle Piggle]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

...Its not my choice or responsibility to approve anyones purchase...

No, we all agree it is not your responsibility to approve anyone's purchase... and yet that still does not stop you critiquing the purchase of every mate, neighbour, family member etc, and giving your opinion as to whether you approve or not.

Just a quick tip in case you are ever part of an interview panel - sometimes a candidate will tell you they are always punctual and never have unplanned absences...this is not always true. Sometimes people hide the truth as it is to their advantage if they do so. True story.

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

...Its not my choice or responsibility to approve anyones purchase...

Had to quote this again as I am nearly in tears

[HULK_I6T]

Originally Posted by Iggle Piggle

Just a quick tip in case you are ever part of an interview panel - sometimes a candidate will tell you they are always punctual and never have unplanned absences...this is not always true. Sometimes people hide the truth as it is to their advantage if they do so. True story.

I am frequently on interview panels.. lol Only value in an interview is to determine how people communicate, most of what they say is in one ear and out the other. Throw them a few curly questions to see how well they talk on their feet under pressure, whether their content is true or not cannot be proven at that point.

However, But when a seller sells a car and has a rear main seal leak, its either a fact or not. If asked by the buyer a direct question "does the car leak any oil", saying no knowing it leaks is a dog act.

I once asked a seller some very direct questions about his car, he gave me some answers. I told him that If I drive the is car away and his answers are found to be untrue, Ill be back with a tomahawk.. The seller pooped his pants and said its better he doesnt sell me the car... He knew he was telling porkies didnt he.

[MrEL]

So Hulk sells car that have had a dodgy safety check done on them by his own admission of his cars dont get jacked up or put on a hoist.
Does he disclose that to buyers? Something about stones and glass houses rings true here.
If it develloped a leak in 1km or was bodged up like you are saying why didnt you tell him when it hemmoraged all over your driveway when he bought it over?

[Iggle Piggle]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

...I told him that If I drive the is car away and his answers are found to be untrue, Ill be back with a tomahawk.. The seller pooped his pants and said its better he doesnt sell me the car...

[FGX335]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I once asked a seller some very direct questions about his car, he gave me some answers. I told him that If I drive the is car away and his answers are found to be untrue, Ill be back with a tomahawk.. The seller pooped his pants and said its better he doesnt sell me the car... He knew he was telling porkies didnt he.

What the hell is wrong with you? Threatening to attack someone with a tomahawk? I would have told you to get ****** and get off my property immediately. What gives you the right to do that? I would have said the same thing as him, even if the car was in perfect condition. You'd be worrying about a psycho coming back in the night to butcher you.

Explains these threads, a sane person would never ask them.

[ljf12]

You sometimes hear/read about cars that have problems that dealers etc can't fix (battery drain issues, intermittent faults).
If you are stuck with one of these what do you do ?

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by FGX335

What the hell is wrong with you? Threatening to attack someone with a tomahawk? I would have told you to get ****** and get off my property immediately. What gives you the right to do that? I would have said the same thing as him, even if the car was in perfect condition. You'd be worrying about a psycho coming back in the night to butcher you.

Explains these threads, a sane person would never ask them.

You do know that Hulk's comments are to rouse people up don't you? Don't fall for the bait. It's what he wants.

[MrEL]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I once asked a seller some very direct questions about his car, he gave me some answers. I told him that If I drive the is car away and his answers are found to be untrue, Ill be back with a tomahawk.. The seller pooped his pants and said its better he doesnt sell me the car... He knew he was telling porkies didnt he.

More like he worked out your too mentally deficient to look for yourself and he couldnt be bothered with dealing with your crap both during and after the sale process.
You could of been standing there with a roll of $50s in front of me and when you come out with that id just tell you to **** off.
Ive done it before to pains in the **** like you and would have no hesitation in doing it again.
Hulk threads are great. It really shows how good some people are at making themselves look really dumb.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by blueoval

You do know that Hulk's comments are to rouse people up don't you? Don't fall for the bait. It's what he wants.

Some people just get tired of someones cr@p. There are certain people who you know are just here to troll and actually not be useful.

[SSD-85]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

He knew he was telling porkies didnt he.

The kettle called, said to bring the black paint around....

[JAJH]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

However, But when a seller sells a car and has a rear main seal leak, its either a fact or not. If asked by the buyer a direct question "does the car leak any oil", saying no knowing it leaks is a dog act.

I once asked a seller some very direct questions about his car, he gave me some answers. I told him that If I drive the is car away and his answers are found to be untrue, Ill be back with a tomahawk.. The seller pooped his pants and said its better he doesnt sell me the car... He knew he was telling porkies didnt he.

Mate, it is apparent you cop a fair bit of crap here on AFF...fairly or unfairly, that's for Mods to decide. However, in response to your basic question of 'dog acts', there is an old expression of "Caveat Emptor" which simply translates to "Buyer Beware". The buyer always has the responsibility to make sure his purchase is up to standard whether the seller discloses faults or not.

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

I have been getting about 2-3 pink slips a year since about 1986, I been getting most of these from different random mechanics all over the state and all over Sydney, not once has any of my cars been on a hoist to get a pink slip, ever.

Back on topic, when buying a car or anything else for that matter,

'Caveat Emptor' - let the buyer beware, Essentially it proclaims that the buyer must perform their due diligence when purchasing an item or service.

Seller want to sell, at the end of the day he has to tell you nothing, it is the buyers responsibility to check what he is buying. What is to say the seller is mechanically inept and has no idea about anything (most of the population), then many propels opinion of immaculate is very different to others. I call something average and most consider it immaculate.

May be the car has been driven 'nicely' by a family man for all it's life and never had an issue and all of a sudden young fella buys it and drives it like he stole it, instant oil leak. I drove my XB Coupe on the street for years without an issue, every time I took it to a track day the short coming used to show up fast, fuel pumps failed, diff housings cracked, clutches fried, I even bend axle spring saddles and U bolts and axle plates once I bolted on semi slicks. None of these issues were apparent when just cruising the street, but showed up in a few minutes of driving hard on a track.

I would not be surprised if the car never leaked, but a bit of a flogging and oil leaks can easily appear in an engine that already has some wear, it only takes one burnout or hard drive to do damage to a car.

[Russ]

Dog act or not that's life, time to move on ......As others have said it's "BUYER BEWARE" end of story

[STINKY NINJA]

Fix it for him hulk,thread over and out...

[Mr Hardware]

$650 you say?

If only all of life's lessons were that cheap...

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

$650 you say?

If only all of life's lessons were that cheap...

Could not agree more. $650 is a cheap lesson, and really if he bought a car and now can't afford to fix it he can't really afford a car.

As my old man used to say, buying a second hand car starts with Ahhhh, and often ends with Awww

I remember having some 20K lessons last time I build a house, so there will be plenty more lessons for the young fella in the future, like 'you play you pay'.

[MAD]

I'll replace the rear main for $650.


So it goes from 146000 no leaks then 1460001 with leaks, to now saying 3 days between.
3 days is tons of time for 18yr old first car shenanigans.


If you threatened me with a tomahawk I'd make sure to hide as many surprises in the car as possible.


Should've bought a 5sec Camry.

[Itsme]

I think Hulk 16T misses the point of buying a second hand car that is old, the car will most certainly have problems of parts wearing out eventually whether it is gradual or becomes sudden failure.

Hulk 16T how can you accuse some one of a dogs act when you were not present at the point of sale & not knowing what was actually stated by seller & buyer?

Buying any used car has its risks which is a fact of life, get over it!

[olfella]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I am frequently on interview panels.. lol Only value in an interview is to determine how people communicate, most of what they say is in one ear and out the other. Throw them a few curly questions to see how well they talk on their feet under pressure, whether their content is true or not cannot be proven at that point.

However, But when a seller sells a car and has a rear main seal leak, its either a fact or not. If asked by the buyer a direct question "does the car leak any oil", saying no knowing it leaks is a dog act.

Whats the difference between this and your interview 'technique'? You front someone at interview and cannot tell if they tell you porkies or not but when someone sells a car with a fault discovered long after the sale is a 'dog act'? How do you know that they know there is a fault?
Oh, thats right - you bash them with a tomahawk until they confess

[MercurySilver]

reminds me of tommy buying a caravan in Snatch

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by galaxy xr8

Hulk did your young friend buy the vehicle with or without a RWC ?.

Not required in NSW.

[chopstar87]

Hulk.. do you work for ACA?? (A Current Affair)

some of your threads and responses, remind me of their so called journalism.. very one sided and also claiming some one has been hard done by, when really its their mistake that they are in the situation they are in. (as with todays society , someone wants to blame someone else, instead of going, my bad and taking reasonability for their poor decisions and actions!)

some people are not car people and wouldn't know or care if there is an oil leak, or have assumption that all cars do it at that age and its nothing to be worried about. so don't just say someone is been dodgy. some people don't know or care, and its the risk you take buying a second hand car privately.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I know he didnt have the money for the rear main seal because when i first saw him he said he wanted to add a full exhaust but when he saves up for it.. so if he didnt have money for exhaust he dont have it for rear main seal.

It was 3 days between when he buys car and he notified about leak. How many km could he have done to instigate this leak? Cant be many.

He said he checked car with his dad. Its not my choice or responsibility to approve anyones purchase.

The legitimate parking spot is anyones guess. But if a car leaks, it leaks. Unless he had a tarp under the car everytime he parked then he said there was no spots on ground so it cannot have been parked in that position.


I think your assumption is probably correct. Young kids are usually love struck when they see things they like. Prob missed the leaks but the seller should have told him.... not ripped the young fella off

Maybe the Kid took it out the back somewhere and done a massive skid. Due to the massive skid the rear main seal has gone.

Maybe due to change in driving style the car has blew the rear main seal.

You assume to much Hulk, all your threads you make massive assumptions. Maybe get some facts before posting.

My own cars, I trade them in. If the dealer does not pick up a fault well bad luck.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by HULK_I6T

I am frequently on interview panels.. lol Only value in an interview is to determine how people communicate, most of what they say is in one ear and out the other. Throw them a few curly questions to see how well they talk on their feet under pressure, whether their content is true or not cannot be proven at that point.

However, But when a seller sells a car and has a rear main seal leak, its either a fact or not. If asked by the buyer a direct question "does the car leak any oil", saying no knowing it leaks is a dog act.

I once asked a seller some very direct questions about his car, he gave me some answers. I told him that If I drive the is car away and his answers are found to be untrue, Ill be back with a tomahawk.. The seller pooped his pants and said its better he doesnt sell me the car... He knew he was telling porkies didnt he.

LOL that the funniest thing I have heard today.

If anyone ever said that to me and came back around with the weapon, I would hope they would have enough balls to try and use it, they would be sorry if they didn't.

[Whitey-AMG]

Man - Like a horse with an injury - this thread should have been put down ages ago.......

[DOA4]

One of life's little lessons. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. I'm sure he'll be a little more thorough in his next purchase.

[Vesper Martini]

What if you sold a Camry.. and the buyer came back and said it doesn't do 0-100 in 5 sec?

[MrEL]

Originally Posted by blueoval

You do know that Hulk's comments are to rouse people up don't you? Don't fall for the bait. It's what he wants.

Yes I have to admit that Hulk is somewhat of a master-baiter..........

[FG50T]

Wouldn't have been hard to stick a head under there to have a quick look. That's what most people do for friends buying their first car.