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stick ya rotten crash boxes I"m converted lol As for you nancy boy I geuss the auto is being removed from the yoot then .. That would explain the long visit to G&Ds then ![]() Practice.. practice .. thats the go Schmidy good luck with it mate there"s a heap of good paying jobs out there to be had .. Cheers ..Whoosha
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G------R----SP 6th - 1200 - 40 5th - 1200 - 30 4th - 1200 -20 3rd - 1200 - 15 2nd - 1200 - 10 Once you get a bit experienced you can muck around with the rev part and jot the speed at varying speeds.
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Thanks Trev for taking the time to post all of that up. when you said to note down the speed at rpm for different shifts i never even thought to write it down. Will give that a go. Thanks again. |
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In a while you will be doing it with your eyes shut, all trucks differ at what speeds/revs to down change. If you are in a 18 speed, i find full gear down changes are easier than splitting down 1/2 gears, even when coming down to a full stop. Too many cowboys will use all the gears, going up the box and down the box, but most often than not they are tossers.
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And the results!
Went for my HR license today and passed with flying colours. Got 31/32 on the written test and 100% on the drive. Thanks everyone for the tips and advice on the driving. Made things much easier. Looking forward to getting out on the road now! Cheers, Schmidty |
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Congratulations mate ... and goes to shows how helpful the professional truck drivers really are out there on the road. So many people on our roads don't realise what the truck drivers have to put up with on our roads.
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During my test, i had about 3 people cut in on me aproaching lights, when it was obvious i was learning as i had the big "driver under instruction" plates on the truck, and i wasn't going much under the speed limit and still had jokers trying to squeeze up inside, had 1 tool go up the bike lane! The help i got from forum members was great, and made a big difference towards how easily i did the course today. Oh and Big Trev, I took your advice and wrote down the speeds and revs in each gear in big black texta on at a4 piece of paper and blue tacked it to the dash in the truck i was practicing in. My mate laughed, but it made an instant difference, and made it so much easier to skip gears slowing down and pick the right gear for my road speed. When i get some more experienc i'll chuck it away, but its helpful now. Cheers, Ben |
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No worries Ben, and I bet your mate will have a go at it now, but won't tell you - LOL
Oh and congratulations on passing your test, be safe out there, it isn't easy for drivers these days and lot of shonky empoyers, stick with the big ones.
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You mean that you can write legibly? Whoa! your way too smart to be a Truckie. I'd suggest you go straight into Driver Training ![]()
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What is jake changing? I have just read about jake braking (when slowing down). I don't have my HR but want to get it sometime soon, and this thread couldn't come at a better time. Damo
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Yep I'm with Damo - Jake changing - I only know not to use the jake while the freight is sleeping!!!? I too don't drive trucks - have had a play with light stuff but was thinking about going for a HR lic in the near future.
On a side note - this has been the best non "ford/car" thread I've read on this forum - thoroughly enjoyed it and lots of good info! |
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A "jake brake" is a term for a Jacobs Brake. It is a system that sits on top of the valves on top of the engine, it opens the exhaust valves on the compression stroke and stops fuel going in, so it effectively enables the piston to operate like a bike pump with your finger over the end. It is trying to force a lot of air through a small hole, the purpose of this is to slow the 'push up' of the piston, therein slowing the engine down through down pressure on the piston, conrod, crank, gearbox, wheels. (simply put). Hence the noise, if you picture the bike pump process, you can understand the noise from the truck engine, it is virtually the same noise, only bigger. LOL
There are a few variants of this type of technology, there is the "C-Brake" which is the Cummins Engine variant, there is a Mack version, which I can't remember the name of. The Europeans (Scania, Volvo) have their own version as well. There is also an "Exhaust Brake", this is very common on Japanese and Euro trucks, it works by closing off a butterfly valve in the exhaust system, therein slowing down the evacution of exhaust gases, putting back pressure on the pistons, etc, etc, (see above). There is a perception that this type is not as effective as a "Jake Brake", in some cases it isn't, but it operates on a higher rev range is all, the blue area on a Volvo tacho is the 'exhaust brake' range, nornally this takes the engine past the engine governed revs by a couple of hundred revs, safe in the manufacturers eyes obviously. Jake changing is by having the jake brake turned on, not use the clutch and changing gears, what this does is drop the engine revs VERY fast so that quick gear changes can be done, this practice has become redundant with the new 18 speed boxes in common use, these have close ratios. This practice can also cause some damage to engine and driveline if not done absolutely spot on.
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What's the difference between full and split gear?
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Bit of a thread mine there Hords.
On some gearbox's there is a "half gear" in between two gears, so you will have say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 8, plus Low Low or (bog cog). This helps overcome the massive gap in gears in the top box on some trucks.
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What's the different shift technique for the half gear? and what's the top box?
...sorry for the dumb arsed questions.
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A half gear is done through the splitter witch is at the back of the box, high and low. Top box is a term known for high range.
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Thanks guys.
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