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19-04-2021, 03:59 PM | #10201 | ||
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The deaths against the whole population already takes that into account.
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19-04-2021, 05:21 PM | #10202 | |||
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Will they impose penalties such as 'no jab, no pay' or the like? Will they ever be able to travel outside of Australia? Who will foot the bill if they fall gravely ill? I was going to delay applying for the vaccination until more in need got it, however if it means I can travel sooner I would be more motivated to get it sooner. I think if more bubbles are announced with the pre-requisite of getting vaccinated there will be a surge in people wanting the shot. These mass vaccination hubs can't come soon enough.
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20-04-2021, 07:34 AM | #10203 | ||
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I think the 98% of people who get it and survive are effectively vaccinated as well as anyone who gets the shot. It is just the shot is way more survivable than the disease, this is this part that makes them look a bit silly.
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20-04-2021, 11:07 AM | #10204 | |||
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So you either get vaccinated yearly like the Flu shot or you get infected like the flu. Time till tell how bad that will be.... but one thing is for sure, covid will eventually become common in Australia. The borders and quarantine have just bought us time to get things in order first
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20-04-2021, 11:17 AM | #10205 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT April 19th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 18 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.082%. 1 new case and 0 deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.002% and active cases 102. The UK had a higher 2,963 cases yesterday and 4 deaths. Just under 60k new cases in the USA yesterday and 329 deaths sees CMR at 1.792%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases pass 142M, the last 1M in 2 days; Asia passes 34M cases; Only - Cambodia (624) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average and none drop below.
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20-04-2021, 07:29 PM | #10206 | ||
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Bunnings vaccines... you get what you pay for. Think about it next time you’re worried about what we are getting served up in Australia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/19/covi...e-rollout.html |
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20-04-2021, 07:52 PM | #10207 | ||
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I’m gobsmacked at the idea our Government has personal authority over Australians outside our country.
https://www.9news.com.au/national/ne...0-2f8ab7d02bf3 |
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20-04-2021, 08:00 PM | #10208 | ||
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20-04-2021, 08:16 PM | #10209 | |||
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20-04-2021, 09:08 PM | #10210 | |||
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Russia, Hualan Biological Bacterin agree on production of Sputnik V in China https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...na-2021-04-19/ The UK found that mixing AZ and Sputnik gave it super powers, I wonder when that will become the norm. |
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20-04-2021, 09:53 PM | #10211 | |||
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Zero sugar, Zero fruit, Zero processed grains. I've been sick once in the last 15 years, and I don't get the flue-shot - copt a flu on Bathurst weekend which I kicked in 3 days. From memory it was the year frosty won. Now you give me one valid reason why I should get the vaccine. And when I say valid reason I mean fact-related, and emotionally free. |
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20-04-2021, 11:25 PM | #10212 | ||
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So Given that there are many people that have had it, over more than a year now, it is very interesting that re-infection figures are not well known.
The above guess 2% is common, additionally people who watch CNN would hear that reinfection is so much worse than the first. But what are the figures ? 32.5 million cases worldwide 71 confirmed reinfections 2 confirmed deaths This makes the likelihood of death from reinfection worse than first infections, but 71 in 32.5 million is very low indeed (2 in a million) Suspected, unconfirmed reinfections are noticeably worse than confirmed - but indicates a much more survivable situation 34,407 leading to 38 deaths So worst case it is about a 1:1,000 chance of reinfection, and then another 1:1,000 chance of death For context I read somewhere that 1:1,000,000 was about the chance of death resulting from a weekend ski holiday (the only worldwide, daily updated, reinfection figures I could easily find: https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/0...ction-tracker/ ) |
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21-04-2021, 07:27 AM | #10213 | ||
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As far as I'm aware, none of the current vaccines stops you from catching CV19. It just reduces your chance of getting symptoms / severe symptoms, which then hopefully reduces you coughing and splattering everywhere or going to hospital, which then hopefully stops you from passing it on to those who haven't or can't get vaccinated. So if you are not getting symptoms then you are probably not going to get tested, and any reinfections will probably not be captured.
I'd be keen to know if ANY of these vaccines, even the ones with 50% efficacy, are still seeing people going into ICU. Yearly flu shots have a 50-60% efficacy, and it works. Mum had the AZ on the weekend. First night she felt like she was burning up, but had no fever, but also had no sleep. She has auto immune disease so the we figured the benefit of getting AZ outweighs the risk of catching CV. Basically if she catches CV she would be toast. Also, for what its worth, I'm 41, look 25, act like 18, love my zinger stacks, Nandos, souvalakis, fish and chips. Have not had a flu shot since 2008, have hung around some pretty dingey places, and have not had the flu since....I can't remember when. Not sure what conclusion to draw from that. |
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21-04-2021, 09:13 AM | #10214 | |||
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21-04-2021, 09:39 AM | #10215 | ||||
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-symptoms Long covid has also affected people with mild symptoms https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/cli...lf-of-all-case Quote:
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21-04-2021, 11:10 AM | #10216 | ||
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Reports that someone has developed blood clots in Brisbane days after Pfizer vaccine. No link confirmed yet.
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21-04-2021, 11:34 AM | #10217 | ||
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT April 20th, 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 28 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 3.079%. 1 new case and 0 deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.001% and active cases 86. The UK had a lower 2,524 cases yesterday and 33 deaths. Just under 55k new cases in the USA yesterday and 493 deaths sees CMR at 1.791%. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences. Other notable points: Global cases pass 143M, the last 1M in 1 day; Global deaths pass 3.05M, the last 50k in 4 days; Asia sets a new daily high of 446,237 cases; Europe passes 43M cases; Brazil passes 14M cases; Only - Cyprus (941); and India (294,290) ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for their 10 day average and none drop below.
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21-04-2021, 11:59 AM | #10218 | |||
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Don't get one if you don't want it. Just accept that there are things you may not be able to do in the future. Like visit a sick relative in a nursing home, or fly internationally .... or other things like that. But if you don't feel you need one and don't interact with people that may be susceptible to it, then you are fine not to get it.
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21-04-2021, 12:35 PM | #10219 | |||
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21-04-2021, 12:53 PM | #10220 | ||
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Hi there ! Has anyone got some information regarding arrival date of the Ford Everest Basecamp model in Australia?
I bought and signed the contract in March but the dealer can’t tell me when the car is arriving in Australia. I contacted Ford Australia and they can’t help me either ?! |
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21-04-2021, 01:01 PM | #10221 | |||
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21-04-2021, 01:06 PM | #10222 | |||
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21-04-2021, 01:18 PM | #10223 | |||
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The people around you are not as strong And mainly the exact thing I wrote - that is that the facts indisputably prove that having the shot is vastly safer than the lotto chance of a side effect, even though your emotional reasons say that it is not a good idea. That is 3, but having said that, I support absolutely that it is your decision.
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21-04-2021, 01:40 PM | #10224 | |||
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21-04-2021, 04:29 PM | #10225 | |||
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21-04-2021, 04:53 PM | #10226 | ||
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I've been infected by the rhinovirus. But the company told me I need to get a coronavirus test. That was an unpleasant experience. First they swabbed the back of my throat which made the vomit reflex almost kick in. Then they went into both nostrils one at a time until it felt like they were touching my brain.
Test was negative - AS EXPECTED! To quote a famous Greek - "it's bullshyte mate!" (Guido Hatsis)
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21-04-2021, 05:35 PM | #10227 | |||
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