Best Australian built car of all time

[Falcman0o7]

VL commy mate~!

Doof doof! pssst!

[dylby1]

Rather reluctantly I'm gunna jump on the a9x Torana list.

[EgoFG]

Ah the last good looking holden, and the only decent holden 6pot !

Originally Posted by Ryan

My VL is the best Australian built car ever. End thread.

Of course it was designed by the Germans and the Japanese gave it a heart, but still it was built by Aussies.

[Ford_The_Win]

Originally Posted by Ryan

My VL is the best Australian built car ever. End thread.

Of course it was designed by the Germans and the Japanese gave it a heart, but still it was built by Aussies.

Aww, bless 'im, he does try

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Ryan

My VL is the best Australian built car ever. End thread.

Of course it was designed by the Germans and the Japanese gave it a heart, but still it was built by Aussies.

Lol, built in a satellite city settled by imigrants...

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by z80

Lots of reports from owners that the Mitsubishi 380 has significantly good build quality and reliability.

Shame about the resale... especially if you own one

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

You know, I think you could be right.
I've driven several of them that are still running around as rental cars, and honestly, the one thing that crossed my mind was why didn't this thing sell enough to be viable? Great engine, pretty good handling, comfortable, well equipped...I do think that there was some negative press trying to feed into the stupid old pregidous against front wheel drive cars, something that hasn't really been relevant for fifteen years or so now.
Possibly it was marketed at the wrong time...like it or not, big cars like the Falcon, Commodore, and the 380, are now seen as "niche markets" instead of "the first choice" for people looking for a family car.

It's just a bland looking car. Dare I say more bland than a Camry. My mate bought one a year ago from the auctions. 35000ks just over $11000. Very reliable, no complaints there. Guess what? He wants to sell it. He is not interested in cars and even he said that it 'lacks' something. He also said it is has a boring appearance.

[F6E]

Originally Posted by Ryan

My VL is the best Australian built car ever. End thread.

Of course it was designed by the Germans and the Japanese gave it a heart, but still it was built by Aussies.

Haha, VL Calais Turbo, my wet dream car back in '89, couldnt affort one so ended up with a VK Ei Calais..

Back then it's 150kw RB30ET was GOD !! Now every 4cyl shopping trolley has 150kw +

haha , must be getting old ? The Nissan 6 is held in high regard for quality & performance, it's still eons ahead of even the current GM V6 $hitters...

[2011G6E]

http://www.news.com.au/business/cele...-1226249784804

I think this article makes a good arguement for the R and S series Valiants...they might have been close copies of the American Dodges and Valiants at the time, but they amazed people with thier styling and especially power...it forced Ford and Holden to do something about the standards of thier cars at the time. Valiants had it all over the other two makers here in Oz for many years, in both six cylinder power outputs and size.
Even as late as 1981 there was a radio advert for the last gasp CM Valiant...it had two guys talking and one said he was buying anAustralian built car with "a big six". His mate said "Oh, a Holden 3.3 liter?", and he replied "No mate...a big six", and his mate said "Oh, a Falcon with the 4.1 liter?", and he said "No mate...a real big six...the Chrysler Valiant with the 4.3 liter 205 horsepower big six hemi engine with Electronic Lean Burn for better economy...".
It certainly got the message across...but the time wasn't right, as big cars were becoming less popular at the time.

[JC]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

You know, I think you could be right.
I've driven several of them that are still running around as rental cars, and honestly, the one thing that crossed my mind was why didn't this thing sell enough to be viable? Great engine, pretty good handling, comfortable, well equipped...I do think that there was some negative press trying to feed into the stupid old pregidous against front wheel drive cars, something that hasn't really been relevant for fifteen years or so now.
Possibly it was marketed at the wrong time...like it or not, big cars like the Falcon, Commodore, and the 380, are now seen as "niche markets" instead of "the first choice" for people looking for a family car.

Having owned a number of falcon's over the years, and now driving a 380, I'd almost agree, but surely good sales have to be taken into account?

Territory would have to be my vote - built to fill a niche, and has done it extremely well - comes with a few minor issues, but then even X5s have been known to break down with under 2500km on the clock.....

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by F6E

The Nissan 6 is held in high regard for quality & performance, it's still eons ahead of even the current GM V6 $hitters...

Everyone I've known thats had a VL or R31 Skyline have been riddled with problems. They arent exactly fast either even for their day with the EA Falcon 6 matching the turbo version. Never knew what all the fuss was about.

[ford lover]

the F6!seriously,what beats it?

[ClassicServicin]

a9x was an icon

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

Everyone I've known thats had a VL or R31 Skyline have been riddled with problems. They arent exactly fast either even for their day with the EA Falcon 6 matching the turbo version. Never knew what all the fuss was about.

Stock versions aren't that quick, but it doesn't take much money for them to get up and go. Which is why they've always been very popular to modify.

Mine's only an N/A so it gets beaten by the average 4 cylinder.

[z80]

Originally Posted by DASH GT

Shame about the resale... especially if you own one

"Have you driven/traded a Ford...Lately?"

[Polyal]

I find it funny how people bang on about resale...even if it was leading the way its still going to be bad..its a new car, of course its going to depreciate quickly. Cars are just like any other technology these days, pretty much obsolete within 5 years.

[F6E]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I find it funny how people bang on about resale...even if it was leading the way its still going to be bad..its a new car, of course its going to depreciate quickly. Cars are just like any other technology these days, pretty much obsolete within 5 years.

+1. Seriously , who decides to buy a car based on selling it ?

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by Polyal

I find it funny how people bang on about resale...even if it was leading the way its still going to be bad..its a new car, of course its going to depreciate quickly. Cars are just like any other technology these days, pretty much obsolete within 5 years.

Depreciation is part of buying a car ....... if you cannot afford the depreciation or whinge about it after the fact, you couldn't afford the car in the first place. Its like death and taxes .......... if you haven't done your homework don't cry foul when its time to sell. And yes ..... if the first thought is selling it when you buy it ....




PS: .......... my bad! Off topic! Anyway back to discussing why the GT 335 is the best car ever produced ....

[1TUFFUTE]

Originally Posted by duaned

The Chrysler Valiant Charger. Enough said.

my fresh outa school phase was filled with about 4 or 5 mates with chargers for years.....all a bucket of bolts...even the fanatical owners couldnt keep them pristine.....so no vote for the chargers here


TERRITORY

XY FALCON

[ford lover]

depreciation obviously depends on what car you buy!my best was a 57 split windscreen kombi,i bought it for $200,sold it for 6 grand cash.believe it or not.this could start a new thread,epic buy stories.

[Spinner5711]

From out of the boundary...

The FE Holden. First mass produced Australian designed car. After some teething troubles with the earlier 1956 built sedans, they powered on. They were the most attractive of GM's offerings in 1956.

With the FC upgrade, they achieved 50.5% of the new car market in Australia. The station wagon variant held a tad over 83% of that particular market segment.

The 50.5% share of the new car market was a clear leader over No2, Volkswagen, who sold 30% of new cars in that period.

[babyf6]

i am gonna say xa gtho falcon just because it has a legacy behind it

[martyk54]

I think once the Falcon and Commodore are gone, the XR6T will surely have to be the best large cap production, all Australian car ever.

[basteve]

any ford built in australia is true blue ace. "real aussies drive aussie made"....... bumper stickers.

[XP6]

Cant believe not 1 mention of a hero car that paved the way too the podium got good sales handled good went pretty well, created one of our most regonised race drivers and it was almost completely aussie designed..............

LJ GTRXU1 I'd have one in yellow thanks!

[svo supporter]

Have to say the original VE. The 1967 one.

Seriously, the E49. A 6 banger that could keep upto a 351 over the quarter.

Took until someone added a hair dryer from the factory to become the fastest production 6 in aust.

Might not have won any major titles in Aust, but Mr Moffat (I think) couldn't catch them in NZ, with his XY.

Sure they had a rust issue, but what car doesn't?

[BAFrod]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Lol, built in a satellite city settled by imigrants...

German immigrants!*