Cyclist nailed by Police - Page 4

Carrion · 17-01-2016, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Oh well, he is the one who will come off second best if he comes into contact with someone in their car.

Guess what people, you can be in the right all you want but you're the one who ends up in the cemetary if you get hit if you're on a pushy or motorbike, so you might as well as use your one chance to be careful, you're playing with probability when you start doing things like running red lights.

No matter what side of the fence you are on you don't want to be involved in this.

I drive a bus in back streets and cyclist's can be a pain in the *** but you just got to deal with it.

Some good, some bad.

Don't let it ruin you or somebody else's life.

Mainlube · 18-01-2016, 06:53 AM

Bicycle is crazy not wearing a helmet, no way would I go out without a helmet.

Never run red lights either however, 2 wrongs never did make a right so no matter what the bike did, copper should not touch unless he was arresting.

Should of driven in front of him like he would a car and pull him up, push him over is just a knee jerk for not responding.

lownloud · 18-01-2016, 08:25 AM

An interesting read, as most cyclist/motorist post are.
Every time these threads denigrate to a slinging match I'm reminded of the guy I came across one day on the way to work one day. He had clipped a bike rider and the results were not so flash. The bike rider was down and in a real bad way. The guilt felt by the driver was obviously very bad and he was close to tears. From what I saw I think neither was in the wrong, it was an accident and just one of those things that happen.
The thing he said that I remember most was:
"You don't think of them as people until you hit one then you realize they are just like you and me....F*#k me I thought I killed him"
Be safe out there people and leave the stupidity at home.

LG17 · 19-01-2016, 09:03 AM

Here ya go!

https://www.bicyclenetwork.com.au/general/media/3851/

Rider confirms police crash details

18 Jan 2016

The rider who was upended by a motorcycle policeman in Sydney last week has confirmed that he crashed as a direct result of the police interception.
He has explained to Bicycle Network that the policeman on the motorcycle unexpectedly roared up beside him at the corner of College and Park Streets, reached over, and grabbed his right arm.
With his arm pinned, the rider could not steer his bicycle, overbalanced, and crashed to the road, he said.
The rider, who wishes to remain anonymous, suffered painful leg injuries as a result of the crash. He was taken to St Vincent's Hospital Emergency Department in an ambulance, and when released later that day, was restricted to walking with crutches. He is unable to ride his bike.
Original accounts of the incident from eye-witnesses indicated that the rider appeared to have been pushed from his bike, which police have denied.
However, as anyone who has ridden bicycle can confirm, yanking on a rider’s arm will almost inevitably result in a crash, as even a small, unanticipated deviation of the handlebars will cause the rider to lose balance.
The rider involved in the widely publicised incident contacted Bicycle Network following his discharge from hospital.
He says he is astonished at the heavy-handed action the police took: “I can’t understand why they did this,” he said. “Nobody deserves to be treated like this just because they were not wearing a helmet.”
The rider recently moved to Sydney—with his Pinarello single speed track bike—from another Australian capital city. He is a musician and recently has been working in club promotion.
He admits that he was not wearing a helmet as he should have been on the day of the incident. He says he was riding towards the city through the intersection (with a green signal) when he heard a burst of a police siren, but when he checked to his left up College Street, he could not see the source of the commotion.
Moments later the police motorcycle swooped up beside him, and his arm was grabbed. He could not maintain balance and crashed.
He said he asked the policeman what he was doing, and was told: “You were not wearing a helmet . . . I was trying to stop you”.
The rider said the sharp pain in his leg caused him to cry out, but a policeman told him he was not injured and told him to stand up.
Bicycle Network has been contacted by a number of eye-witnesses, including two female pedestrians, who were surprised at the lack of concern shown towards the downed rider. When they attempted to see if the rider needed assistance, they were shooed away by the police.
NSW police have undertaken to investigate “the entire circumstances surrounding the incident".

**cs123** · 19-01-2016, 09:18 AM

Poor dear hurt himself.
My daughter Immy fell off her bike recently. We gave her a cuddle. We didn't hold a press conference though.

ratter · 19-01-2016, 10:22 AM

no correction,

somebody else hurt him

Boosh Brus · 19-01-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Poor dear hurt himself.
My daughter Immy fell off her bike recently. We gave her a cuddle. We didn't hold a press conference though.

Was she pushed over by a police officer?

blueoval · 19-01-2016, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cs123

Poor dear hurt himself.
My daughter Immy fell off her bike recently. We gave her a cuddle. We didn't hold a press conference though.

Who pushed/pulled your daughter off the bike to make her fall?

While I can understand your lack of empathy like every other person who agrees with you, I do think the cop involved should have approached the situation better.

That said, I think this situation is getting blown out of hand and the focus taken off the real problem. The rider 'should' know the cycling road rules if he came from another city. Seriously, how hard is it to know that a helmet MUST be worn as a minimum. Not a very smart guy.

Iggle Piggle · 19-01-2016, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LG17

...He says he was riding towards the city through the intersection (with a green signal) when he heard a burst of a police siren, but when he checked to his left up College Street, he could not see the source of the commotion...

So he is talking about the intersection of William and College. What colour did he say the light was when he went through the intersection of William and Yurong? Or did he not say?

I don't divide between cyclist or motorist. Dick head is a dick head, be them on a bike or in a car...but just because some cyclists are dick heads does not mean all are dick heads, and just because some motorists are dicks heads does not mean all motorists are dick heads.

Here it sounds to me like both the cyclist and the cop have a bit of dick head about them.

**cs123** · 19-01-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boosh Brus

Was she pushed over by a police officer?

No but a boy at school pulled her hair one time.

Seriously, if you're trying to turn this into police brutality then you're an amazing bunch of sooks.

The guy was riding a fixed wheel track bike, with shoe clips, no helmet and ran a red light. He should be a man and cop his fine.

How about calling it for what it is... He's a dill and a drama queen.

I'm not a anti bike, just anti sook.

blueoval · 19-01-2016, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cs123

No but a boy at school pulled her hair one time.

Seriously, if you're trying to turn this into police brutality then you're an amazing bunch of sooks.

The guy was riding a fixed wheel track bike, with shoe clips, no helmet and ran a red light. He should be a man and cop his fine.

How about calling it for what it is... He's a dill and a drama queen.

I'm not a anti bike, just anti sook.

Im not making this into a police brutality thing at all. Never mentioned the term. Just that this could have been handled more professionally which it wasnt and now the focus is on the rider crashing and not on the issue at hand of the rider not abiding by the road rules. (also see post #2).

I agree that the rider is an idiot. But Im far from sooking as you call it.

**Uncle_Ken** · 19-01-2016, 08:40 PM

Surly this isn't the first time an accident occurred during a police chase?
UK

Ben73 · 19-01-2016, 10:57 PM

Heard a "burst" of police siren he checked left and couldn't see the commotion so he continued?
I guess it was a bit complicated to check to the right after seeing nothing to his left?
He sounds like a bad rider if he is not aware of his surrounding, especially after hearing a siren.

When I ride on the road I am regularly checking what's behind me. Especially when approaching a hazard.

SYZ · 20-01-2016, 01:50 AM

These are three good reasons to arrest the bloke...

"The rider recently moved to Sydney—with his Pinarello single speed track bike—from another Australian capital city. He is a musician and recently has been working in club promotion".

A $2K fixie ain't the bike for city commutes.

**MercurySilver** · 20-01-2016, 09:45 AM

If he is a drummer he should get jail time....and get pushed off his bunk daily

jpblue1000 · 21-01-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SYZ

A $2K fixie ain't the bike for city commutes.

Why not?
JP

Franco Cozzo · 21-01-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SYZ

These are three good reasons to arrest the bloke...

"The rider recently moved to Sydney—with his Pinarello single speed track bike—from another Australian capital city. He is a musician and recently has been working in club promotion".

A $2K fixie ain't the bike for city commutes.

Probably didn't have a seat on it either

Xauterus · 22-01-2016, 12:55 AM

What would have been the reaction if it was a " what if?" situation. If the policeman pulled the guy off his bike and he sustained a fatal head injury. Would the lack of helmet have been a justification. There is enough uproar when police use stun guns on people.

**Beastie** · 22-01-2016, 07:09 AM

Now with the fines for not wearing a helmet increasing quite a bit (in NSW at least), I think that you will find there will be a lot more cyclists being booked, as it's now worth plod's time to book them whereas before it was only a small fine.

SumoDog68 · 22-01-2016, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Damo

Probably didn't have a seat on it either

Bikes don't have seats , it is a saddle .....

Express · 22-01-2016, 12:12 PM

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Cyclist photographed carrying child on back without helmet through peak hour Sydney traffic

22 January, 2016
David Meddows
The Daily Telegraph

Some drivers couldn’t believe their eyes when this cyclist rode past them with a young boy clinging to his back.

MOTORISTS were left stunned when a cyclist rode past them on a busy Sydney street with a young boy desperately clinging to his back - with neither wearing a helmet.

The man was snapped riding through peak hour traffic at about 6pm on Tuesday with shopping bags in one hand and the boy with his arms tightly wrapped around his neck.

Police who were shown the photo of the man were shocked to see such blatant disregard for the child’s safety.

“It is obviously disappointing and dangerous when bicycle riders are noncompliant with helmet matters,” the spokesman said.

Police were alarmed when they were shown the photo by The Daily Telegraph.

“It is more alarming when a child’s safety is also compromised in a manner such as this.”

The driver who took the photo was also stunned when she came across the pair.

“The child looked to be about four years old,” the woman, who didn’t wish to be named, told The Daily Telegraph.

“All I could think was imagine if they hit a bump and how long can he hold on like that for, he was tiny!”

She said traffic in the area was heavy and people are often breaking road rules in the area making it even more dangerous for the rider and his young passenger.

“It’s so dangerous, especially in that part of the city and during peak hour when cars around me are running red lights,” she said.

DO YOU KNOW THIS CYCLIST? EMAIL DAVID.MEDDOWS@NEWS.COM.AU

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...081ca687a2c186

**Beastie** · 22-01-2016, 12:15 PM

He doesn't need a helmet as he is riding a Volvo

LG17 · 22-01-2016, 12:20 PM

Mmm - just a bit silly these days but in the 40's and 50's it was quite normal.

Just wondering here whether a thread should be started, complete with photos, showing the stupid (or unlawful) things motorists do. Perhaps we could start with the P plater passing the truck...

**Grunter** · 22-01-2016, 12:28 PM

Harden up Australia!

;)

ratter · 22-01-2016, 12:32 PM

times sure have changed, I remember when it was cool to dink somebody else around, although not a kid hanging around your neck

**PepeLePew** · 22-01-2016, 12:39 PM

I'm a bit shocked at some of the black and white passions in this thread on both sides. This isn't black and white, or us and them. Take a step back and see the grey shades and accept not everyone may feel the same as you do on an issue. It's these very outlooks that have made others line up in the trenches and polarized opinions on cycling laws and freedoms, and BOTH sides are guilty of it. (not aimed at any post or poster in particular to be clear)