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You can attribute the need for childcare today to the move in the 70's to 2 income families, so it's actually the feminists who are to blame! If you want me I'll be in my bomb shelter... And since we are having a pointless argument lets go all the way and introduce politics.. IMO (worth what you paid for it) it was quite specifically the Hawke government that ruined australia and it never ceae to amaze me how spectacularly the left can re-imagine reality with regard to it... Remember...bomb shelter. Knock loudly, the door will be locked... |
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This is turning into a State of the Nation thread.
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"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times" The strong men have long since retired or are dead, We are very much now in the era of weak men, the hard times will come. IMO the most priveleged generation in our history will be the current young people. They are the "whats in it for me" generation. Hence all the sooking about not being able to afford a house. There hasnt been a generation that ever exiisted that could easily buy houses when they were young. Everyone I ever heard of bought dogboxes or dongas in the outer suburbs for first homes, and did it hard too.
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I just got back from driving hols out north/west.
We did a few touristy things - Kakadu, Katherine Gorge, etc, I didn't see any evidence of entitlement. Generally I think that face to face people watch their manners. As far as the driving goes it was just about trouble free. A few dropkicks who really don't get that if they sat back a bit those behind wouldn't have to overtake 3 or 4 of them at a time. It's not as though they are going to overtake. They just sit there. Just about all of them (grey nomads) watched their mirrors and were well over to the left (I was coming up on them pretty fast and only shocked a few on the way past). Personally I don't get the caravanning thing but horses for courses. All in all, they (the nomads) were representative of what you find anywhere. A few dick heads, a few clueless, the vast majority are fine.
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Keep in mind that the youngins going on international travel and doing working holidays/back packing - that's the only thing that separates them from the other 500,000 kids who come out of the education factory with the exact same degree when they're going for jobs.
We've got 4 mechanical and 1 electrical engineer at work, two are doing basic assembly work in the factory for sub $20/hour, one does basic data entry work and another one keeps offering to come in on his weekends to work for free. We had an experienced aerospace engineer across the road who was our barista at the cafe because he was struggling for work. The travel is the only point of difference on a graduates resume that is going to put them on top of the candidate list, everyone else has the same high level of education and they're competing with a global workforce in Melbourne and Sydney - who will work on the weekend for free. The grey nomads could walk out of one job at lunchtime then walk into another starting tomorrow, you had much more industry and a much lower bar for entry with less competition than Generation Z faces who are coming out of their University degree starting $50K in the red. I saw something a few days ago where a business is advertising for a position to wash and park their fleet of cars but they're looking for qualified automotive trades person with manufacturing experience then to even apply for it the candidate has to do a cover letter addressing key selection criteria and complete a further application form - to wash and park a fleet of cars even though this person is not responsible for maintenance just organisation of the fleet in the car park ![]() Our resident oldies here - would you rather be in your teens/20s when you were or in 2019? Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 08-08-2019 at 07:48 AM. |
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There’s a lot of oldies on here banging on about how hard they had it as if there is no challenges today for younger people. Whilst I do agree there is a lot of younger people today who think they are self entitled, spend it up etc. There is still quite a few of us (I am 27) who for example can’t get a loan big enough to buy a small basic run down house in the Sydney basin even with a big deposit saved over years of staying at home. This is only one example.
I think the oldies here instead of living in their land of I have had a tough life, so I am escaping in my caravan because the young ones are annoying, need to have a reality check on current challenges. Just because you had it hard, doesn’t mean we have it easy.
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Here here Trev, the social welfare that is available today just wasn't available when we were bringing up or children, we relied on family , friends or did it ourselves when it came to raising our kids . Childcare centres didn't exist as they do today and I do feel for families today who both work and struggle to pay the exorbitant fees charged by centres. You can't blame people for the era they were born in, it's not something you can choose, but you can blame them for their manners and how they treat others and there are good and bad in all , but don't condemn them for working hard and achieving what you may covet. Most took a lifetime to achieve what some of todays generation want yesterday.
I wonder what they will think of whatever the current generation is doing when they are in their 60s. Pity I'd like to be a fly on that wall but i wont be around to find out. GT450 |
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I can see both Crazy Daz and Trevs views. I’d also add the present “entitled” generation were raised (for want of a better word) by someone.....they are the sum of the previous generation. Own it.
Previous eras provided prosperity for many, not all of course, someone always pays. I can’t say I enjoyed any great luxuries growing up, nor do I really envy those who did, but it is what is is and here we are now paying the bill in more ways than one.Sadly so much of our major city housing markets are out of reach, only the wealthy or the overseas land bankers can afford it. Of course there are other options for the present generation but we bred what we got, good and bad. I don’t blame them for what they are, we as a generation made them. |
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Exactly this. The oldies who complain about the younger generation are the ones who created them, and their ****ty society that they now live in. Absolute hypocrisy to complain about the world they created. |
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I don't think zuckerberg and the like are grey nomads. Grey nomads aren't responsible for the poor manners of a society who are controlled by electronic devices.
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It’s really a no win argument, this BB, Gen Y, X or whatever generational crap!
A lot in life’s fortunes, regardless of generation, comes through “luck”, or being in the right place at the right time, or knowing someone/being recommended by someone. Hard work?... yeh/nah... I’d be more inclined to say “working smart” I mean, what typifies “hard work”? Is that like our grandfathers manually digging foundations with a pick and shovel in the 20’s, Is it like our Fathers working a 10hr day in a factory on a lathe, or on a production line? Or is it someone sitting in front of a computer screen in a bank inputting crucial data 10 hours a day?? ... I’m sure they all have their physical AND mental stress levels? And future generations will no doubt laugh at the last analogy? “You had to type into a computer, and got paid WHAT”? Re: Grey Nomads? Who gives a feck, how they spend their money, how they earned it, what rig and caravan they’ve got, whether they’re leaving any money for their kids, or whether they’re buying their groceries from Kununurra general store or friggin Coles in Perth? Personally, Caravanning ain’t my cuppa tea, but in our own way, with our move, me and the Mrs are probably a type of “off shore grey nomads”? Probably also like Aussie’s grey nomads... We couldn’t give a rats what others opinions are of us! It’s our time.. Pura Vida you lot!
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Off to do some Grey Nomading...
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Out of curiosity, are you still a grey nomad if you are bald?
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Dunno, You would have to check if the “carpet matches the curtains” if your really keen to find out
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Grey is so last year...
White beards are now the go. I swear every second nomad has one. I even saw a couple of men sporting them...
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Millennials are like this due to a saying I keep hearing from baby boomers.........., "I just want them to have what I never had"
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Geeze I'm tough.
Check out the snow on the hills. This is what I do whilst youse dumb ugly boys are working. Keep paying ya taxes youse Millenials. And thanbk you for the money that is deposited into my bank account each fortnight. |
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I work for a couple of gay nomads. Where do they fit into all this?
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