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I can't "thank" this enough. Whilst you are at it, maybe you can educate us where 700 odd deaths occurred, who was responsible for that jurisdiction, and whether the state government had authority to send their people into those premises to respond. Thank you.
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Join Date: Nov 2016
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Just watching news, positive Covid-19 case Mildura!
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Location: Melbourne
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Many eyes will be on England over the next few weeks I think. Health secretary Sajid Javid recently tested positive. The PM and the "finance guy" both got pinged by the NHS close contact app, BUT they have been exempted from isolation because they are part of the pilot for the daily rapid flow tests
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
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Pick-and-Payless has temporarily closed to the public. This lockdown is really getting serious.
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Perth
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You'd only have to do that self testing if you had no symptoms (inc cold or flu), or if you think you didn't actually have covid. Chances of that in the UK are pretty low so probably won't ever had to self test like that
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#12429 | |||
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Location: Ojochal, Costa Rica (Pura Vida!)
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Yet they still demand you have the test? Am I missing something here?… What’s the point of getting vaccinated then? (Serious question, as I’m not there)
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Point of vaccination is to reduce the likelihood of YOU ending up in ICU on a ventilator. Doesn't guarantee that you don't catch it, spread it etc So even if you do get vaxxed you can harm others (that don't have their vax yet)
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Location: Perth
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Mate, already copping it... What do you do.
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You would think that they would have learned from the Victorian experience - but NO Their inaction has crippled half of Australia - Victoria's problem was Victoria's problem
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N/A all the way
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne
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Missed the political rants since Ticky gave it up. But on this point, it is impossible to prevent the virus getting into aged care if you have ten thousand plus cases in the community. It has everywhere once it gets a proper foothold in the community. Yes the Feds are responsible for aged care, but is was always going to be a disaster when it got in there, and they did a poor job once it did. No better or worse than the Vic government did, so I give this one 50/50.
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Also have a look at the concentration of aged care services and beds per state, Victoria is by far the most vulnerable in this area. Hence why we can't gamble with the outbreaks. IMHO.
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#12436 | |||
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
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There is still a huge anti vaccination sentiment on social media - revolving around the fact that the vaccination "just reduces the severity of the impact". So, most people will rationalise that the gamble of getting the virus is far less than the so called negative impacts of the (untested / unauthorised / magnetic / big pharma / government conspiracy) vaccination... If they made different rules for vaccinated and non vaccinated then watch vaccination numbers fly through the roof. Having said that - is there even the capacity for more people to get vaccinated? Long lines from what I hear everywhere - so the drip feeding of the vaccination I feel is to cover for the fact there simply isn't enough hands on deck and mass vaccination locations to administer the shots anyway.
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Those 4x $25 vouchers should have been the start of the vaccination incentive program...
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Perth Australia
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Case in point Hepatitis B, you have immunity but still carry the virus to give to others. Cheers Billy. |
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Sydney, more than not. I hate it.
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Aside from that, I wish our excess of “leaders”, advisers and their coterie would have the fortitude to state clearly their goals in light of our current restrictions. It’s like working for an employer who lets you know they’re not happy, but refuses to let you know how you might change things to make them so! |
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Construction restrictions will be canned in a day or 2 apparently.
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In the room while getting the shot the lady next to me said she got the booking the same day. The person giving the shots said they get a ton of no shows and cancellations each day so for someone that can keep checking each day they can get lucky and get something sooner.
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Join Date: Apr 2018
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Too much blowback? Look at the transmission sites; concrete batching plants, residential sites, depots and offices, the coffee and chicken shops. Quick top-up supermarket visits on the way home. If they’re really serious about how this is spreading, it would be the one to squeeze the hardest.
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NSW NEEDS to do the full lock-down like Victoria has done in the past, this half-arsed effort is not going to work - but seriously does she (as ScoMo & Co's puppet) want it to, I think she is a believer in the 'herd immunity' system, like King Boris of the UK and The Right Royal Prince of the USA (recently de-throwned) , Prince Donald
I think this NSW half-arsed lock-down is to protect her vote (and of course the Feds vote)
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I know we are not supposed to be political - but the people running this country (and states) have turned it political - it is only right we discuss it
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Location: Melbourne
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The state government manages its metro aged care through Monash/Northern/Eastern etc health services. Essentially hospital trained, so no accident there that they have better training in relation to infection control. They did a great job in protecting their patients. The other thing is that they only manage just over six hundred beds in Metro Melbourne, and 4500 in the regions, so they dodged most of the outbreak. On the private system which is under Federal control, I would be very interested to see how the not for profit sector (40% of beds) compared to the profit based, and see if there differences in the results of their infection control. Staff working multiple sites and employed casually is great for efficiency, but not stopping the spread of a virus. This system has 40,000 plus metro patients so 75 times larger than the State controlled one. Combine that with lower skills and you end up with the result we got.
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The vaccine is to prevent serious illness from the virus. It also assists with not catching it. You can still get mildly ill, or show no symptoms after vaccination after being infected. IMO it's a pretty dangerous time as people can be infectious without any symptoms and can easily spread it. Even with 90% coverage we would still have 2.4M people who could get seriously ill from it. Which is a lot... Not sure of what the answer is....
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT July 18th 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 129 new cases for Australia and 1 death so the CMR is 2.865%. 11 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.924%. The UK had a lower 47,599 cases yesterday and lower 25 deaths for a CMR of 2.369%. A lower 24,081 new cases in the USA yesterday and lower 113 deaths sees CMR at 1.787%. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Global deaths pass 4.1M, the last 50k in 6 days; Global cases pass 191M, the last 1M in 2 days; Asia passes 59M cases; Laos (131); Isle of Man (233); Senegal (1,722); Rwanda (2,773) - 800 more than the high yesterday; Vietnam (5,926) - 2k more than the high yesterday; and Thailand (11,397) ... all recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and no countries drop below.
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Europe Review
The last 10 days have highlighted some countries where case numbers per 100k of population have increased substantially including: Malta (370), Portugal (396), Spain (551), Netherlands (587) and the United Kingdom (746) Below are the trend graphs for Europe with the first group (those with the highest case numbers) all heading in the wrong direction again. ![]() A mixed set of results in the next group with most trending upward except the Ukraine and Germany. ![]() Similarly this next group (which had been in decline) are mostly trending upwards again. ![]() The next group are also trending upward except Belarus and Denmark. ![]() Likewise, all of the smallest case group are trending upward except for Lativa. ![]() ... and some individual country graphs: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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