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Al
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Have seen some interesting Whistleblower vids of late on big pharma & particularly Phitzer.
Also now aware of just how many of these pharma companys, have directors that also sit on the board of the major MSM's. Another story from my foil cap? No, do your research? |
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Am surprised at this last post of yours, it's not really you!..these kids now know absolutely nothing or zero about life, you must go back to when you were that age and realise that we all partied but on Stones Green Ginger wine, but we never worried about things like Covid-19 and jobs too could be had just for the asking. Take it easy on the kids, they don't know what we older folk know ![]() Cheers Billy |
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I have no empathy for these sobs whatsoever. The announcement had only been made a few hours. It's not like they have been isolated for weeks.
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Venues NSW wants vaccine passports for live sport from 2022
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Essentially, more and more exclusions will be introduced for the unvaccinated and it will end up with politicians saying, "We are not making people get vaccinated, but you will not be allowed out in public for non essential means unless you have a vaccination passport." It will end up that you will have to carry it everywhere with the politicians bleating, "You will not have to carry your passport everywhere... you can get the app on your phone." |
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Trust me, I'm from the Government.
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Populations are so much greater than 100 years ago. They pay lip service to this saying that use of cars and trains are "similar" in the two periods! They don't mention air travel. In 1918 there were 5.5 million cars in the US, 1 car to every 19 people, in 2020 there was 1 car to every 1.3 people or thereabouts. Not very similar at all.. Just our logistics networks alone would collapse trying to support the necessary shutdown. Empty shops would equal societal breakdown. What we have is so much better a result than this. Academics do not really look at the "what if" enough, they just seem to want to save everyone with their immediate issue, the negative results of what they create are just another academics issue to study.
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Was just looking at last week’s announcement again regarding the vax rate targets and the phases. Noticed that the vax rate is based on eligible adults, so this would mean those between 12 and 18 won’t be included even though they have been approved to get the jab.
Eligible – so does the gov have a count of all adults who are eligible and not eligible? What percentage of the whole adult population is eligible? I’ve seen some people on social media suggest that just getting 50-60% of the adult population vaccinated may actually get us to the targets, which means before end of the year could realistically be achieved.
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Business and society cant keep on locking down indefinitely. If we have vaccinated only events then you would think those places would then not need to worry about numbers, masks, spacing etc..the current system is a logistical nightmare and there are huge losses running at 50% capacity. If people dont want the jab, fine, but just watch it on TV. My concern is the backlash, look at France, sure they love a riot but its going to cause an even bigger rift than now.
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Data valid as at 00:00 GMT August 1st 2021.
Note: As not all Australian States report at the same time, the data below is based on the previous full day reporting. 251 new cases for Australia and no deaths so the CMR is 2.688%. 3 new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 0.905%. The UK had a lower 24,139 cases yesterday and lower 65 deaths for a CMR of 2.206%. A lower 54,030 new cases in the USA yesterday and lower 242 deaths sees CMR at 1.760%. Other notable points: (weekend reporting) Asia passes 900k deaths; Kazakhstan (7,803); Cuba (9,747); and Japan (12,343); ... recorded new daily highs; those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day. No countries move above the 90th percentile for the 10 day period and none drop below.
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The world has decoupled itself from science/fact and is firmly in political spin, money making nonsense aided by a highly corrupt and complicit media. |
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It could just be a vigilante trying to gather police together who are against what is going on. Or it could be a honeypot to identify such people. ![]() ![]() Whatever the case, this is the stuff that ASIO and the fed police are there to stop... they are there to protect the government, so cant see much coming from that... other than arrests carried out on them (not by them)... and those people getting put on terror lists. (yes ive watched the vid in its entirety on ********) |
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Florida is going to be another place to watch. Despite having a new record of 21,683 cases in a single day yesterday their Governor (tipped to be a Presidential candidate next go round) has stated that there will be no lockdowns, restrictions or even compulsory masks based on his 'let the people decide' motto.
They had got down to below 2k cases / day through June and early July but case numbers have risen almost every day since 8th July with more than 110k cases in the last week alone. To put that in perspective, their population is only 4M less than ours and I'd hate to even think what would happen here if we had > 20k cases a day. They have been reasonably fortunate, for a State with such a high percentage of aged persons, to have a CMR that is down around 1.48% but they have just edged over 100 deaths / day and that is likely to worsen in the next few weeks. I'm going to start watching that with the same methodology I'm using for the UK.
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What I can say, from the UK analysis thus far, is that CMR appears to drop significantly as the UK has dropped from around 1.8% over the pandemic duration to 0.44% in the current wave. I'm not sure that the UK is a great example for global assessment, if only because we know their methodology for counting COVID mortalities is flawed compared to the WHO recommendations but it is still an indicator given their methodology hasn't changed. It's why Florida will be another useful litmus test. They are over 10M vaccinated which is 48% of the total population but well over 50% of the adult population and as they have abandoned all restrictions we can gauge how their CMR changes. I'll need another two weeks to accumulate enough data to draw any meaningful conclusions and I suspect that their methodology might also flawed given their overall CMR is only 1.48% despite the high percentage of 70+ in the population but the early data is suggesting that it has only fallen slightly but take that with a large grain of salt!
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You can see what is going to happen here, the high and mighty vaxxed will turn on the un-vaxxed from their high horses. But if they are vaxxed, why do they care if someone chooses not to? It's a personal choice. I can see the authorities causing a great divide over this. |
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While data is up for discussion, I’m having trouble finding a running tally of NSW cases where isolation status is “under investigation”.
Every day we’re fed a number, but where can I see the resolved data? That’s assuming they don’t just sweep the unresolved cases into the wastebasket every night and let them be. |
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Outside of age which nobody beats, obesity is a leading co-morbidity for Covid mortality on US statistics, not to mention all the other related issues that block up our health system considering Australia has a similar problem with obesity rates. Maybe we should be using a “Health” passport to guide more than just vaccination status. |
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Health 'passports' for anything other than International travel are going to open up a whole range legal issues that will be wrangled about for the next decade or more unless the Government extends the current public health orders to include other classes of workers other than those already included.
It's a decidedly rocky road to head down but I'm sure some countries will try.
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Al
Join Date: Feb 2015
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I know i cant stand getting this stuff rammed down our throats,by the likes of channel "get the jab" 9.
Also with there being shortages of the vax for some, how come the relevant patents aren't being dropped? |
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Health passports will be useless if a country and its government are starving and/or open to corruption!
Many countries import food including the good old US of A, but they export more than they import, so a country with no GDP will do anything to get food for its citizens? Look at the list below, and tell me they "really" care about you or me! Countries Who Are Unable To Produce Their Own Food Rank Countries Without Sufficient Food Supply 1 Afghanistan 2 Burkina Faso 3 Burundi 4 Cameroon 5 Central African Republic 6 Chad 7 Democratic Republic of the Congo 8 Djibouti 9 Eritrea 10 Ethiopia 11 Guinea 12 Iraq 13 Kenya 14 Lesotho 15 Liberia 16 Madagascar 17 Malawi 18 Mali 19 Mauritania 20 Mozambique 21 Myanmar 22 Nepal 23 Niger 24 North Korea 25 Republic of the Congo 26 Sierra Leone 27 Somalia 28 South Sudan 29 Sudan 30 Swaziland 31 Syria 32 Uganda 33 Yemen 34 Zimbabwe Cheers Mr B ![]() |
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If someone wants to produce it, they can under license. We make AZ under license. But they need to have the facilities and technical capabilities to do it. Just like we could not just make an RNA vaccine, even we did not have the ability and infrastructure to.
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"Herd immunity" is why people care whether or not people who can be vaxxed, get vaxxed. Once we hit that magical number, which scientists seem to collectively think is around that 90% mark, it becomes less of a problem if the remaining 10% are unvaxxed. But if we had 20-30% people not wanting to be vaxxed, the virus will still find it easy to move around, and will likely mutate, causing problems for everyone all over again. Why is there no "Australian" variant? Because we haven't allowed the virus to move uncontrollably in our environment. But we have the South African, Indian, UK strain etc.
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