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Rand Paul is a moron with a dumb name. If anyone should wake up it's people that listen to a word that tool says as he cares about no one except himself.
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This just another naiive opinion on what can legally be enforced in a workplace. In the real world the unions will side with the employers and typically with the proviso that the employee gets the day off with full pay to attend the vaccination clinic and be covered by sickness benefits if the employee feels sick after it. Everyone who works at a sewage farm has mandatory hepatitus shots as well as a cocktail of others as a condition of emplyment. Nothing new in the workplace as far as i can tell. I was a mere contractor at the Werribee sewage farm and had to comply. And funnily..they are finding covid at waste water plants... ![]()
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Penalty: 1800 penalty units for a natural person; 9000 penalty units for a body corporate." A penalty Unit is currently worth $181.74 so you do the sums I am not sure if the Unions will have much of a win against the OHS Act as their mainstay these days is about protecting the health and safety of the their members, and that is all SPC are trying to do as well
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![]() Like I said it will be interesting to see the outcome of SPC push for compulsory vaccination. |
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My employer is not the only company in this industry applying it, not by a long shot.....it will be a requirement of employment very soon....... No
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people who work in abattoirs have mandatory shots I was a ViCSES volunteer and I was required to have Hep B shots
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https://www.worksafe.vic.gov.au/coronavirus-covid-19 https://www.legislation.vic.gov.au/a...on-regulations I have a WorkSafe Inspector coming in later, would you like to ask him something?
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oh, so a respiratory illness expert then
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This can not be true, my lying eyes are playing tricks again…
COVID-19 treatment drug hydroxychloroquine soon to be supplied in Australia https://9now.nine.com.au/a-current-a...c-c2fc229f9089 |
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an Australian Doctors opinion - probably one I would listen to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBbfS00n7VE
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The union rep was interesting with SPC. He said we support the right to choice but we also support vaccination....leaving out the word "mandatory" It will be interesting how they run this one, since one of their prime objectives is providing safety in the workplace.
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I actually agree somewhat with his stand.
Once we reach a stage which he is saying his staff is at (everyone who wants a shot has had one) Personal choice has to return, I do not want to wear a mask forever, and especially not for people who think that this is just a flu and chose not to be vaccinated. The world will become a smarter place after we open up thanks to Darwinism. Having said that, the US is not at that point yet, they are still giving three quarters of a million doses a day. The fact that he doesn't push for vaccination in his video dumbs him down a lot.
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Do the SPC employees have to get the jab on their own Time or SPC's Time.?
& If there are side effects which cause the Employee to miss Work, Will SPC still Pay them or make them use Sick Days.. |
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Whilst it remains not mandated by law, I reckon market forces will influence certain sector's policies at the end of the day. If top talents decide to walk, impacting bottom line and bonuses, you can be pretty sure policies will get tweaked pretty quickly. It can go either way though.
Of the 6 people that were asked (that I know of), all did not have a problem disclosing their vaccination status, and only 1 had an issue with working with people who were un-vaccinated, even though she is fully vaccinated. She also felt very uncomfortable putting that view forward. Quote:
You really know how to get around beautiful Melbourne......Ringwood, Frankston, Werribbee.....
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MELBOURNE, Aug 11 (Reuters) - The Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) has labelled the government of South Australia "cruel and uncaring" for imposing an extra two-week quarantine for athletes returning via Sydney from the Tokyo Games, meaning a 28 days of quarantine in total.
The additional quarantine requirement for athletes currently isolating in Sydney, the capital of New South Wales, comes on top of the two weeks mandated for all arrivals from overseas. "Due to the high risk of the Delta strain of COVID-19 in NSW, anyone travelling from New South Wales must undertake 14 days quarantine upon entry into South Australia," the state said in a statement. The AOC said South Australia had turned down its request for an exemption from the extra quarantine period. https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sp...ia-2021-08-11/ |
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The first athletes did go there. Plenty of interviews with them from that camp. Most probably a capacity issue.
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I thought it fair enough to treat the athletes no differently, it highlights some of the silliness.
Australia Post seem to be struggling in Sydney, I’ve had an Express Post article sitting in Chullora for two days. |
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What you've posted is correct, Trev. Where I differ in my opinion to you on the application of that clause is the bit that I've highlighted. It seems to me that your interpretation of what is reasonably practicable, with respect to COVID and a company's vaccination policy in relation to that, is that it is ok for the company to mandate vaccination for it's employees, as a way to protect their health and safety. I'm not quite so convinced on that. As others have pointed out, there is potentially other conflicting legislation and I think the way this will be tested is through the courts. I'm not convinced that it's a black or white situation, and, again as others have said, whether a compulsory vaccination program is considered reasonably practicable may be dependent upon the industry sector. The other thing to consider is the legislation you have quoted is specially for Victoria and the rest of the country operate sunder different legislation (WHS Act as opposed to the OHS Act). I'm not au fait with the WHS Act (being in Vic) but I'd imagine it would have a similar broad-brush requirement. And I'm looking at this from the perspective of a Health and Safety Rep, Trev.
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