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Do you have a link for that?
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To prevent a cyclical conversation, go back and read what I posted about the dosage to achieve anti-viral properties being 100 times the safe dosage for humans. This is why it's not used as an anti-viral. |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Yeah it’s called google. It’s on an offical Australian government website.
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Some people will say something like “if you haven’t realised we’re in a once in a 100 year pandemic” but they don’t see the bigger picture. Look at the fixated persons unit in NSW. It was created to help stop the increasing number of terrorist attacks in NSW during the 2010’s. If you’re not a terrorist you don’t have to worry right? Well now they use that unit to arrest YouTubers who criticise the government. Ive never been into anti government conspiracies, but I’m starting to see where these people are coming from. Last edited by Ben73; 09-09-2021 at 07:13 PM. |
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Ah, the DYOR thing. Well no, you made the statement, you provide the proof.
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Or specifically https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=death...in+australia.+ |
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yes still (as money n time permit) doing the rebuilding the zh fairlane with a clevo 400m 4v heads injected whipple blown with aode 4 speed trans to a 9" ....... we'll get there eventually just remember don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! I have taken up meditation... at least it's better than sitting around doing nothing !! |
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I’m not downplaying covid. I don’t like covid, I don’t want it, I don’t want people I know to get it. But the whole listing the age, sex, location and even how they got covid for every single death is a bit over the top. |
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LINK not DOYR, as in direct link to the >5000 people you mentioned above. If you cant provide a direct link we can only imagine that you're having a wild guess.
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https://www.smh.com.au/environment/c...09-p570z7.html Edit: direct quote: “ But every country suffers from its impact. In Australia, it represents about 4 per cent of all deaths each year, or about 5700 fatalities.” Carry on.
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I’ve read a few news articles in the last decade that engage with some aspect of air pollution in Australia. There was the big to-do of “thunderstorm asthma” several years ago. Canberra’s wood heater buyback. Discussion of periodically bad air quality in Tasmania due to wood fires (both chip heaters and split logs). (I’ve also experienced this and while you sort-of get used to it, there’s no denying it’s harsh on the nose/throat - and presumably thus upon compromised lungs.)
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I have no idea why people don't understand that people die everyday but the main thing about covid is hospitals don't want 1000s of sick people turning up every day en mass all at once. That is the difference, that's why vaccination against serious illness is being pushed.
Get vaccinated and when you've got covid stay home, or not, no one cares if you prefer to hope it away or go to a vet, just don't fill up the hospitals so they can do regular stuff that hospitals can barely function enough to do pre pandemic. |
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One of Australia’s big four banks has undergone a major logo change to encourage the uptake of vaccinations nationwide.
The name change comes after chief executive Ross McEwan threw the bank’s weight behind vaccine passports as the ticket out of lockdowns. NAB changes to JAB. NAB changes logo to JAB to encourage vaccination ![]() |
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There’s scant contemplation of what happens if either the state/national Covid vaccination goals of 80%x2 are not met or become apparent to be taking infinitely longer to reach. I note NSW’s first dose vaccination rate is gently slowing as it approaches 80% and the second dose proportion is increasing in the daily doses administered.
I hope governments have an honest backup plan if the 80 percent figure starts to look unattainable; it’s not good enough to blame people and turn them against one another. We have an interesting history of big talk, small results - 1990 child poverty statement, the NBN fiasco, the billion trees… |
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My chemo treatment has again been cancelled, 3rd time in 3 weeks I think, but I picked up my pre-chemo drugs today.
Dexamethasone, now I'm not vaccinated for covid, here in Perth no lockdown, but dident ex-President Donald Trump espouse it's qualities when he said "that drug cured his covid infection" in 2 days? I mean it's an anti inflammatory steroid, so are they giving me that because I'm not vaccinated? That's a question! Cheers Billy ![]() |
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Hi Slowsnake,
My wife is on a course of Dexamethasone as eyedrops because she has some retinal inflammation and the WHO (go here: https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...-dexamethasone ) says: Quote: Dexamethasone is a corticosteroid used in a wide range of conditions for its anti-inflammatory and immunosuppressant effects. It was tested in hospitalized patients with COVID-19 in the United Kingdom’s national clinical trial RECOVERY and was found to have benefits for critically ill patients. According to preliminary findings shared with WHO (and now available as a preprint), for patients on ventilators, the treatment was shown to reduce mortality by about one third, and for patients requiring only oxygen, mortality was cut by about one fifth. End quote. So I would guess it is probably being provided as a preventative medication to control inflammation associated with your condition. (And you have my sympathy in respect of this) At least you are in a state which is somewhat better insulated from the virus than are most of us and have a premier who hasn't forgotten that the first responsibility of a government is the protection and welfare of the population. In respect of Covid it would appear only to be of benefit if you are A) infected and B) in dire straits. Everyone, and especially people with existing medical conditions, ought be doing everything they can to not catch Covid and minimise their chances of serious disease if they do. I am quite sure you are - be thankful you are not living in the Southeast of Australia. Now I'll probably draw a comment or two about the third sentence in the last paragraph, so I'll give my reasons for it. There is a difference between the first responsibility of a government and a political party. As already stated for a government but for a political party it is to do whatever is necessary and legal to remain in power. It's my opinion that some governments in this country, in respect of Covid, are getting the two things mixed up. And there is the problem because rarely do the two things benefit one another. But that's the nature of politicians. Cheers
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It's a bit like all those who have died from all sorts of related and unrelated things but who were smokers so the anti-smoking lobby includes their deaths in their statistics. Or, more accurately, counting all the deaths from respiratory illnesses in cities with any days in the year over a certain index number and saying that the air pollution was the cause regardless of what else actually killed them. I'm not saying it doesn't cause some deaths but I suspect that the 3,000 estimate by the AIHW is still, at best, a guess and a read of that paper shows that they simply attributed percentages of various causes of death (lung cancer, stroke, heart disease) in line with estimates supplied by the WHO. We really shouldn't let the facts and/or solid, peer reviewed research get in the way of a good media beat-up.
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My reading of the tea leaves suggests that we will still have limits on gatherings, especially the major ones (ie, we won't be seeing 100,000 fans at the MCG any time soon), we'll still need to wear masks in high transmission risk locations, eg shopping centres, for quite some time after we achieve the 80% vaccination rate target. As has been pointed out, this will be done to manage the number of cases that are ending up in our hospitals, ensuring that resources are available to get back to doing those activities hospitals normally do, like taking care of patients who are suffering other terminal illnesses or elective surgery, that have taken a back seat whilst we've dealt with the pandemic. The other thing that may have been missed in all this, too is that we need to give our medical workers a break! The pandemic workload has been huge; I'd hazard a guess that many in that field need some time to be able to recuperate, take some leave, get back to a more normal workpace. I think we owe it those people to do our bit to afford them this. Vaccination alone won't cut it, especially once the virus starts spreading once restrictions are eased. But if we go 'open slather' so to speak, then they won't be afforded that opportunity.
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While on the subject of misleading information.
Unfortunately, the Internet provides a mechanism where pseudo-research can be propagated, misinterpreted, taken out of context or given more credit than it merits but I am not going to allow that to continue in this thread. So, despite the fact that some people still believe we never landed on the moon, the US Government killed one or both Kennedys or that aliens regularly abduct us for experimentation; here are the things that we are going to take as real truths for now (until there is verifiable evidence to the contrary) and if those on the fringe don't like it then I'm happy to remove them from this area of the forum. 1. COVID19 may well have started in a Chinese lab - the jury is still out on that one - but it is not a conspiracy by our Government to restrict the freedoms of Australian citizens. 2. Taking Ivermectin, chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine; inhaling or gargling bleach; inhaling hydrogen peroxide; snorting cocaine or drinking boiled betel leaves are NOT cures or approved treatments for COVID19. 3. The currently available vaccines represent the best efforts of current research and as such are as safe (if not slightly safer) than most new medications. They will not help your 5G reception, do not contain microchips to track you and are not part of a wider Government conspiracy.
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All tongue in cheek and a lighthearted post for a Friday funny.
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https://www.medsafe.govt.nz/COVID-19...-report-25.asp
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Gonna be a long long haul that is for sure. Not sure you've seen this but here's the map. https://www.nsw.gov.au/media-release...lly-vaccinated Don't how all this will be getting policed but at the same time we the people are the duty of care in the big picture. Well those the majority that comply. Alot on the news last night about how small business etc will manage the confrontation by people not vaxxed entering their premise's. The Hotel/Club association say they are used to dealing with people pre covid not complying to rules in the past so they feel when the time comes they'll manage confrontational customers whereas a Hairdresser owner said it will be hard saying no to clients not vaxxed but rules are rules they want to open. The black market copy opportunity of your double vaxxed certificate the software is being worked on to stifle this obviously. They are saying it will be linked to our ServiceNSW (obviously every State will do similar I expect) app when we bar code scan our vaxxed certicate will be in view for the business to see for entering. Just wow what were all gonna be going through moving ahead.
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