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Meh.
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I have a Jetta, it costs me 80 pounds of flesh everytime I have it serviced.
Judging by how expensive the parts and labour are, I think they charge me in Euro! Good little diesel though, wish the Falcon had a 2.7 tree puller in it! |
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I wanted to clarify what I said in this post now that I have my Wheels copy with me. On page 28 Wheels say "Of 31000 Falcons sold last year, only 2500 were wagons." Then on page 32 they say "Ford Oz built 20784 wagons in 1995, production halved to 11005 by 2005 and trickled to 4630 last year." |
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#124 | |||
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Maybe VW are pushing their cars to try sell them this down the track?
http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...0421-sse8.html Quote:
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#125 | ||
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Considering the high price of LPG at the moment, if a vehicle as above were to be trialled as a cab here it would probably be favourable for owners and depots.
The sooner the dependence for oil stops, the better off we will be IMHO.
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Regards Bobby Current Cars: 2000 AU2 Fairmont (2019-current) 2003 BA1 Falcon Divvy Van (2017-current) 2009 VW Mk6 Golf 118TSi (2020-current) Previous Cars: 2003 MCX10R Avalon VXi (2017-2020) 1995 EF1 Falcon GLi (2016-2019) 1997 XH2 Falcon Van OPT20 (2016-2019) 2006 BF Fairlane Ghia (2013-2018) 2001 AU3 Futura (2010-2013) 1996 EL Fairmont (2008-2010) 2004 BA XR6 (2005-2008) 2001 AU2 Forte (2005-2006) 1988 EA Fairmont Ghia (2003-2005) 1984 AR Telstar TX5 Ghia (2001-2005) |
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#126 | ||
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Why??
You would need 2 of them to do a days work? One on day shift, one for night shift while the other recharges This means 2 lots of registration, 2 lots of insurance, twice ALL the costs Not cost effective, therefore the pencil pushers will probably make it law next year... And dont even start on the pollution from the coal fired power stations we use here to power these "planet saving" electric go karts. |
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#127 | |||
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they get swapped out more quickly than getting a full tank of ULP. |
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PX3 WildTrak & RTV
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Central Coast Sydney
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Wow..what a thread..and no one mentioned how adelaide cabs are mostly Dunnydores, Cairns and darwin both moving to Camrys (petrol) and Prius (In darwin a few weeks back..prius cab falling to bits...*** out of seats), fewer lpg up north for sure.
I remeber when i lived in lismore back in 1994/5, there was a diesel peugeot getting round. Things change..I didnt buy a Falcon cause there were stacks of cabs around that are 'Coons.... Ive been in many, many cabs, Coons, Duunydoores, Magnas, 380s, Camrys, Avalons, Aurions and Prius - some good, some great, a heap awful..but their cabs...such us life
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#129 | |||
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Wont be holding my breath waiting for these battery stations every 10km Also taxis have lots of extra battery load for radios, computer, lights etc, so thats gotta decrease the range, not to mention that drivers want the air-con on 24/7, a Prius uses (lots of) petrol to recharge the battery drained by air con, on this sort of car I predict a range of about half what they say in the real world. |
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#130 | |||
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previous LPG Falcons but I'm not a big fan of the rush to plug in hybrids, until battery technology and extreme fuel prices force the change, we're better off staying with ultra efficient petrol or diesel vehicles with "conventional" hybrid. Electric cars will probably arrive in specific areas first like inner city Taxi fleets that can use electric vehicles and have access to recharging stations I agree the infrastructure is not there yet. |
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VW's are just overpriced Toyota's......
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
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Do you remember when hand held mobile phones had only 20min talk time or 4hrs stand by? Obviously mobile phone will never be popular.... Do you remember when laptops weighed 5kg and were 240v only then someone bought out a battery one that lasted 30 min? Obviously laptops will never be popular.... Neither those phones nor the laptops had colour screens, wi-fi, graphical capability or any of the other features taken for granted today. But don't worry, the phrase "Bah Humbug" is still available for your personal use at any time....... |
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Nice post, flappist.
Having seen many documentaries about Cars of the future and researching alternative methods of powering vehicles, I believe that technology will be double of that tomorrow than what it is today and who knows what new fuel they will come up with. Just look at the advancement of technology in the past 50 years to what we take for granted today.
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Regards Bobby Current Cars: 2000 AU2 Fairmont (2019-current) 2003 BA1 Falcon Divvy Van (2017-current) 2009 VW Mk6 Golf 118TSi (2020-current) Previous Cars: 2003 MCX10R Avalon VXi (2017-2020) 1995 EF1 Falcon GLi (2016-2019) 1997 XH2 Falcon Van OPT20 (2016-2019) 2006 BF Fairlane Ghia (2013-2018) 2001 AU3 Futura (2010-2013) 1996 EL Fairmont (2008-2010) 2004 BA XR6 (2005-2008) 2001 AU2 Forte (2005-2006) 1988 EA Fairmont Ghia (2003-2005) 1984 AR Telstar TX5 Ghia (2001-2005) |
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
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remember when they said we'd have flying cars and we've still got petrol guzzling 4-litres?
sometimes commenting about here and now is a bit more realistic about what might be.
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as in chopped
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Combustion engines will be missed for their sound (although electronics will make up for this).
Do we even need cars ? Star Trek Teleporter anyone !
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Unfortunately the average person does not have the natural ability to operate in three dimensions and it is impossible to "dumb down" the license skill requirements as has happened with two dimensional transport. Electic vehicles WILL replace the majority of urban transport particularly in the major cities relegating LPG to the same fate as Power Kerosene and Coal (both of which were very common not that long ago). |
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Research is showing the modern turbo diesel in cars are experiencing failure rates 2.5times the average of all engines, and are nearly 50% more expensive to fix than the overall average, so not to sure where the savings come in given the implied wear and tear that the research suggests. Link
There is a slight difference in tune between a VW/BMW etc Turbo D and a Diesel found in a old Patrol (or Falcon 6). I am probably wrong. |
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I have always been curious about how modern diesels would hold up with taxi duties.
Back in 2006 I visited the Volvo factory in Sweden, and they have an area which fully outfits taxis - In the factory! lights, wiring, everything, upgraded suspension. The guy there was saying that Scandanavian taxis can do up to 200,000 km a year and that diesel is preferred due to cost. Nothing was mentioned about reliability. But I assume they have to be pretty good. In my time there I never got to to travel in a Volvo one, only a couple of Saabs, an Mercs, and Skodas. Oh, and he said they would do taxi packs for Australia on request, I laughed back then thinking how unlikely would we have euro diesels as taxis here, how times change. The day I was there they were building a couple for Africa. They only build around 1900 taxi packs a year. Similar situation to here where many taxis are bought ex-fleet or auction. Even the huge Mercedes factory in Sindelfingen has a section which makes E-Class taxis, extended wheelbase ambulances (these ambulances look fantastic, they have the patient sections made by outside companies) Really interesting to see how the Euro makers try to grab every domestic sale they can get. Here you cant even get a eGAS falcon with a LSD haha. Last edited by Brazen; 22-04-2010 at 06:03 PM. |
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So it looks like most of the extra cost is recouped in the first 12-18 months, then it cream all the way to the bank. Since some of the taxi fleets are restricted to six years, battery life probably won't be an issue either. All it means is that Ford should be talking to fleets about Diesel Mondeo and possibly the hybrid version on the next Fusion/Mondeo platform due out in 2012. |
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VFII SS UTE
Join Date: Apr 2007
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we work an eight day, so plug your car in at work.
no need to use your own power.lol
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I am not against electric cars totally.
One day they will be all you can get. That day is not here yet. I dont want to buy an electric car for the same reason I didn't buy the first mobile "brick", or the first room size computer. It was still a free country last time I checked. I am against the Goverment telling me I must buy an X just because some eco hippy in a big city ivory tower with no real world taxi owning experience thinks it will save the planet. It is MY MONEY that buys the taxi and if I can buy a second hand Falcon for about $15000 at auction compared to a $45000 Prius I should be allowed to. It is my business and my right to buy what I want. (within the rules) If you dont want to ride in it, you dont have to. Wait for a Prius or whatever else you want, that is your right. I have had people do this. You can spend YOUR money on a Prius if you wish. There is a reason the majority of taxis Australia wide are Falcons, they are the most economical (not most fuel effecient) dollars wise car for the job. Or are the majority of taxi owners wrong and you guys are right? The diesel thing works well in Europe because diesel is 10-20c a litre cheaper than petrol, much like the LPG thing here. Bah humbug!!! |
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Thailand Specials
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I'd imagine if the license cost so much, the plane would be worth much more, $100,000 for a used one? Also, where do you keep one? Where can you legally land it? |
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The Passat wagons look pretty good.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/64843/vo...iew-road-test/ Wagon 7 speed DSG auto Parking sensors front and rear Turbo petrol dual zone climate 8 Airbags German built And all for the price of a Falcon XT sedan.... It will be funny to see these VWs as cabs. |
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Imagine if you had to ACTUALLY understand how you car worked including the engine, suspension, transmission etc. How many would fail? Imagine if you had to be able to work out how much fuel was in the car based on the last time you filled it up then 2 partial fuelings calculating distance travelled and time taken and then how far you could go carrying 4 people and 250kgs of rocks while ensuring you have 45 minutes reserve and if in fact the can was not overloaded. Imagine if during your driving test your hand brake was pulled on while you were not looking, you engine was turned off failing your power steering and power brakes, you brakes were failed and your speedo covered and you had to drive past 5 speed cameras at within 10km/h but not over the speed limit? In all these situations you have to react correctly and safely to avoid an accident. Pilot training is MUCH more thorough than driver training. How much is a second hand 1970 GTHO? You can get a second hand microlite for $5-10k. You can legally land them anywhere it is safe including roads, beaches, paddocks etc. |
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