come on fordforumers!! buy a new falcon - Page 5

Scott · 16-02-2012, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davway

How is it not a povo pack?
Its a povo pack with a body kit essentially.

Wha???

Body Kit
Fog Lamps
Projector Headlamps
Reverse Sensors
Suspension
18" Wheels
6spd Man or 6spd Auto
Leather Wheel
Prestige Sound
8" Screen
Sports Seats & Leather Option
Passenger Lumbar adjust
Rear centre armrest with cupholders
Alloy Pedal Covers
XR6 Badges

Option Pack:
Reverse Cam
Dual Zone
Sat Nav

Auslandau · 16-02-2012, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

Wha???

Body Kit
Fog Lamps
Projector Headlamps
Reverse Sensors
Suspension
18" Wheels
6spd Man or 6spd Auto
Leather Wheel
Prestige Sound
8" Screen
Sports Seats & Leather Option
Passenger Lumbar adjust
Rear centre armrest with cupholders
Alloy Pedal Covers
XR6 Badges

Option Pack:
Reverse Cam
Dual Zone
Sat Nav

Not bad for a $35,000 povo pack Falcon.

Iggypoppin' · 16-02-2012, 11:18 PM

I wish people wouldn't tout other cars as having more tech and saying falcon should have the same standard. It's all economies of scale. The falcon has awesome tech for the budget FoA allow for it. The other brands are all global or sold in many other countries and the companies have the money to provide the tech to all models because they sell many many more units than falcon.

Smoke Pursuit · 16-02-2012, 11:22 PM

Not too many cars with 195 kw and a 6 speed transmission for 35 kay drive away or 270 kw for $42 drive away!!

The Falcon / Commodore are great value for money, who needs front parking sensors and adaptive cruise control anyways.

04redxr8 · 16-02-2012, 11:38 PM

Well, back on topic, and to answer Hulks original question.

I will be looking at a new ute in about 18 months. A dual cab 4wd would be more suitable, but I hate the idea of buying a non Australian made car. I have bought 2 new Falcon utes previously and loved them.

The last ute, I went to buy, I recieved very average service from 2 dealers because I asked for a new XR8 (June 2010). Neither dealer really made any effort to help me out. They didnt even offer to see what stock was available.

Went to Holden, who bent over backwards to help me out, found me a car, and gave me more for my trade in, and sold me a ute that came in about $10k cheaper than an equivalent Falcon ute would have.

The Commodore ute isn't bad, but it is not as good a Falcon IMO. Although, the the tone deaf idiot at Ford responsible for their premium sound, really needs to stick his head in a Commodore. That is all I have to criticise Ford on from my last 2 utes.

Between them, I covered about 135,000 trouble free klms, and no problems with warrantys or dealer servicing. I even had a clutch replaced under warranty in one.

As for build quality. What do people expect? Seriously? Its a car. Think of how many tiny individual components go into making it. The only thing anyone cares about when they buy a new car is the price. Something has to give.

I actually found my last 2 cars to be quite good. (just hated the pathetic stereo).

I will buy another Falcon, but I will go to a different dealer next time.

HUNTER8 · 16-02-2012, 11:59 PM

Did my bit.
Traded the FG XR8 in for a new XR6T.

comagutsa · 17-02-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

Mate got a quote yesterday for a GS, $53,500 drive away including everything (leather, Premium sound etc), only thing missing is the Hard lid through Knox Ford ......

Cant see the reason you would tell them to get stuffed?

coz they wanted $57k for a bog stock GS... i would pay $53K for your mates quote with leather, prem sound etc..
the salesman wouldnt even drop his price ...i will be going to other ford places and i bet they will drop their prices below

**DJR-351** · 17-02-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

I wish people wouldn't tout other cars as having more tech and saying falcon should have the same standard. It's all economies of scale. The falcon has awesome tech for the budget FoA allow for it. The other brands are all global or sold in many other countries and the companies have the money to provide the tech to all models because they sell many many more units than falcon.

And i'm a Luddite, the less tech the better......

Bucknaked · 17-02-2012, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auslandau

At (around) $35,000 drive away for an FG11 XR6 ..... is this now the povo pack Falcon??? Not a bad povo pack must say.

But thats an Xr6. I'm referring to the XT model which is the base model. On Fords web site it shows the prices as $41,675.

This is for an FG2 (Driveaway)

Lukeyson · 17-02-2012, 06:47 AM

We bought our GT new 4 years ago now, i don't regret it at all as i got a good price and it was the exact car we had been dreaming of.
Bought the AU ex demo nearly 10 years ago, and its showing no signs on giving up, but it will be the one thats replaced later.
As only the new FPV's exctite me, and now with 2 kids, mortgage etc etc we just couldn't afford to buy a newbie.
When i do update the AU, I will have to hit up the 2nd hand market me thinks

Rodge · 17-02-2012, 07:17 AM

And includes the German engineered six speed ZF auto that's widely regarded as the best automatic gearbox in the world, (you know the same gearbox manufacturer that makes gearbox's for Rolls Royce, Aston Matin and BMW along with many other prestige marques).

Nikked · 17-02-2012, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But its a medium 4 cylinder car, so compare apples with apples.

But, does the average buyer care?

Nope...

they see that for the same price you get a car with way more packed into it, for a similar price. Even interior space is good enough.

Nikked · 17-02-2012, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

Wha???

Body Kit
Fog Lamps
Projector Headlamps
Reverse Sensors
Suspension
18" Wheels
6spd Man or 6spd Auto
Leather Wheel
Prestige Sound
8" Screen
Sports Seats & Leather Option
Passenger Lumbar adjust
Rear centre armrest with cupholders
Alloy Pedal Covers
XR6 Badges

Option Pack:
Reverse Cam
Dual Zone
Sat Nav

Kia Optima.

ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) with EBD and BA
ESC (Electronic Stability Control) with TCS
Driver & front passenger SRS airbags
Front side SRS airbags (pelvis & thorax protection)
Curtain SRS airbags full length (head protection)
Active front headrests
Rear park assist system with dash display
Impact sensing auto door unlocking
Speed sensing auto door lock
Electrochromic rear view mirror
Front fog lights
HAC (Hill-start Assist Control)
Dusk-sensing automatic headlamps
LED daytime running light (DRL)
Static corning lamps

Electric folding mirrors (heated)
Panoramic sunroof (powered)

Driver & passenger sunvisors with vanity mirrors
Interior light with delay out
Digital clock & dual trip meter
Rear window defroster with timer
Leather wrapped steering wheel & shift knob
Alloy sports pedals
Ambient temperature display
Cruise control with steering wheel mounted controls
Driver’s foot rest
Sunvisor extensions
Alloy door scuff panels with illumination
Mood lamps (door trim)
Interior lights (front & rear)
Artificial leather door/ centre fascia trim
Colour TFT supervision instrument cluster
7 function trip computer
User selectable options (Auto door lock/unlock, headlamp escort, easy access)

Driver & passenger sunvisors with vanity mirrors
Interior light with delay out
Digital clock & dual trip meter
Rear window defroster with timer
Leather wrapped steering wheel & shift knob
Alloy sports pedals
Ambient temperature display
Cruise control with steering wheel mounted controls
Driver’s foot rest
Sunvisor extensions
Alloy door scuff panels with illumination
Mood lamps (door trim)
Interior lights (front & rear)
Artificial leather door/ centre fascia trim
Colour TFT supervision instrument cluster
7 function trip computer
User selectable options (Auto door lock/unlock, headlamp escort, easy access)

Wood look interior trim
Driver's seat lumbar support (powered)
IMS driver's seat with 2 seating position memory & easy access function
4-way power front passenger's seat
8-way power driver's seat
Leather trim seats
Rear centre armrest
Split fold rear seats (60:40)

Auxiliary input (for external audio device)
USB audio input with iPod® compatibility
Bluetooth connectivity (phone/ media stream)
SDVC (Speed Dependent Volume Control)
6 speakers (front door, rear door & front tweeters)
External amp, centre speaker & sub-woofer
Steering wheel mounted audio controls
Glass antenna
6 CD changer
MP3 compatible CD player with AM/FM tuner
Infinity premium sound system

Dual-zone climate control air-conditioning
Ventilated driver's seat
Front seat warmers

prydey · 17-02-2012, 08:00 AM

Nikked - to be fair, there's not much on that list that falcon doesn't have. everything looks more impressive when you list out every little detail.

**DJM83** · 17-02-2012, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

But its a medium 4 cylinder car, so compare apples with apples.

And it does 99% of what the average buyer wants with more creature comforts.

As good a buy an XR6 is big cars aren't for me anymore as I have no need for them unfortunately.

Nikked · 17-02-2012, 08:08 AM

True, (cut and paste job) but there are still a few things on there you wont find on a falcon...and all that stuff is standard.

Its a shame really, "large and australian" isn't a selling point now. And its not a simple solution of dropping the price either. Perhaps in just being a two horse race, they were blind to the rest of the field.

Scott · 17-02-2012, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

But thats an Xr6. I'm referring to the XT model which is the base model. On Fords web site it shows the prices as $41,675.

This is for an FG2 (Driveaway)

You found Falcon their site

350125GO · 17-02-2012, 08:39 AM

I don't think it has to do with the overall quality of the product. The Falcon is seen as a large, hulking bogan mobile or for old fuddy duddies and returns terrible fuel economy. How does Ford AU change this?

Auslandau · 17-02-2012, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucknaked

But thats an Xr6. I'm referring to the XT model which is the base model. On Fords web site it shows the prices as $41,675.

This is for an FG2 (Driveaway)

And like ALL listed prices on the web, unless you are doing a mail order without venturing in to a dealer, the reality is that is not the price you pay. If they listed them at $35,000 I would expect to get them for $28,000 with negotiation. No one pays RRP.

AU Mont · 17-02-2012, 09:52 AM

so they list their cars at a high price and expect people to be drawn in and go through the uncomfortable motions of haggling 6-8k off a new ford.

not a very smart business strategy?

||| · 17-02-2012, 10:02 AM

The medium sized cars have now taken the place the falcon used to occupy. We bought a new ford last year but it was a focus rather than a falcon. Unless you need to tow we found the focus did everything the falcon did for less money

701let · 17-02-2012, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny

I wont be buying any new Falcons, or considering buying any new Falcons, or anything else new for that matter.
Why?
1. Massive Depreciation
2. I cant stand the look of the FG, they look like pooh inside and out
3. Im totally happy with my AU XR8 and even my XY GT is getting closer day by day to being where I would like it to be
4. Theres no need for me to spend all my spare money on another car I dont really want or need.
5. (A biggie in my books) I cant stand the way the dealerships are run, the sales people with no clue and all the dramas of warranties etc

If my AU XR8 was written off, destroyed or stolen etc, then Id replace it with another one exactly the same or a T series.

Im not anti Ford in any way, Im happy with what I have and simply dont need or want a newer model..

This post is unbelieveable.. You cant stand the look of an FG falcon saying they look like pooh inside and out yet you are quote 'totally happy with your AU xr8'???!!!!

Ive got some news for you mate, the reason Ford are in the position they are now owes very largely to your beloved AU Falcon... That is the model that BROKE the Falcon and everyone knows it. Im sorry and I realise its a public forum but how anyone can say an FG looks like pooh inside and out then say they are totally happy with an AU falcon blows me away..

BTW Im not a Ford person at all, and judging by the response on this topic its no wonder the Falcon is gone!

**DJM83** · 17-02-2012, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 701let

This post is unbelieveable.. You cant stand the look of an FG falcon saying they look like pooh inside and out yet you are quote 'totally happy with your AU xr8'???!!!!

Ive got some news for you mate, the reason Ford are in the position they are now owes very largely to your beloved AU Falcon... That is the model that BROKE the Falcon and everyone knows it. Im sorry and I realise its a public forum but how anyone can say an FG looks like pooh inside and out then say they are totally happy with an AU falcon blows me away..

BTW Im not a Ford person at all, and judging by the response on this topic its no wonder the Falcon is gone!

Yeah that blow me away, this is your opinion not FACT

The AU has nothing to do with the topic at hand thanks.

MAGPIE · 17-02-2012, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 701let

how anyone can say an FG looks like pooh inside and out then say they are totally happy with an AU falcon blows me away..

Glad I'm not the only one thinking that

GT 160 · 17-02-2012, 10:36 AM

I've been tossing up a new car for the past 6 mths but having slaved away for the past few years and now being debt free and only having $150K left on our mortgage the thought of dropping $50K plus on a new car just doesn't sit right.

There is nothing on the market that really excites me other than a couple Euro sledgehammers so i'd only be buying something for the sake of it.

On a side note how are the 335 FG Gt's selling because i've seen bugger all on the road. Maybe 2 or 3 if that, i thought they'd be selling like hot cakes.

Falc'man · 17-02-2012, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 701let

This post is unbelieveable.. You cant stand the look of an FG falcon saying they look like pooh inside and out yet you are quote 'totally happy with your AU xr8'???!!!!

Ive got some news for you mate, the reason Ford are in the position they are now owes very largely to your beloved AU Falcon... That is the model that BROKE the Falcon and everyone knows it. Im sorry and I realise its a public forum but how anyone can say an FG looks like pooh inside and out then say they are totally happy with an AU falcon blows me away..

BTW Im not a Ford person at all, and judging by the response on this topic its no wonder the Falcon is gone!

Agree 100%

Smoke Pursuit · 17-02-2012, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 701let

This post is unbelieveable.. You cant stand the look of an FG falcon saying they look like pooh inside and out yet you are quote 'totally happy with your AU xr8'???!!!!

Ive got some news for you mate, the reason Ford are in the position they are now owes very largely to your beloved AU Falcon... That is the model that BROKE the Falcon and everyone knows it. Im sorry and I realise its a public forum but how anyone can say an FG looks like pooh inside and out then say they are totally happy with an AU falcon blows me away..

BTW Im not a Ford person at all, and judging by the response on this topic its no wonder the Falcon is gone!

Agreed.

The FG smacks the AU all over.

Sam_Boss260 · 17-02-2012, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 701let

This post is unbelieveable.. You cant stand the look of an FG falcon saying they look like pooh inside and out yet you are quote 'totally happy with your AU xr8'???!!!!

Ive got some news for you mate, the reason Ford are in the position they are now owes very largely to your beloved AU Falcon... That is the model that BROKE the Falcon and everyone knows it. Im sorry and I realise its a public forum but how anyone can say an FG looks like pooh inside and out then say they are totally happy with an AU falcon blows me away..

BTW Im not a Ford person at all, and judging by the response on this topic its no wonder the Falcon is gone!

Having owned an EF Futura, a BA MkI XR6 and a BA MkII XR8, the FG G6ET that I have now is by far the best car. The handling and power delivery of this car is fantastic. It drives so nicely. From the inside, you would think that you were in a European luxury car.

Scott · 17-02-2012, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_Boss260

From the inside, you would think that you were in a European luxury car.

From the outside too Sam, the G6E's look like a world class luxury car.

Auslandau · 17-02-2012, 11:47 AM

How we got to another AU/FG bashing fest has me beat! Let's leave this issue alone for the sake of sanity. Everyone hiding behind 'IMHO' rubbish is another word for 'What I am about to say is going to offend!'.

By saying "Your Mrs is ugly ..... IMHO" doesn't make it all OK

On with the topic without offending those who own the FG or the AU!