Falcon options that where tested but never made it to production - Page 5

OwnTheRoad · 16-01-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Does anyone elses copy of True Blue have Bill Tuckey's autograph in it?

There was also a special edition that had all the suppliers in it listed , i think it was give to the BHP employees .ive got one somewhere

OwnTheRoad · 16-01-2016, 01:18 PM

Given that the Terry 2.7 V6 is from the Lion Ford family of engines and that the Range Rover 3.6 TTV8 Diesel is also from the same family and shares Bore /stroke dimensions with the 2.7 i wonder how this would go in a Terry or Falcon ,200kw? 600nm , they can make a heavy barge like a Rangie haul *** so in a lighter body it could be impressive, then imagine the same TTV8 4.4 version. Oooohh Yea.
So whos first to swap out their 2.7 V6 for the V8.

Engine history according to Wiki here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AJD-V6/PSA_DT17

Bolly47 · 16-01-2016, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZGM86

One of those in V8 would be my perfect daily drive, it ticks all of my boxes.

I'd ditch the Terry for a V8 R5 in a heartbeat!

where is the car now? what happen to it???
where are ford employee could tell us some stories about this car

please .

Dezza · 16-01-2016, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by outback_ute

The EA wagon was also intended to have a 7-seat version with a forward-facing rear seat, which is why the roofline is taller. It would have had a similar layout to a Peugeot 504/505 wagon, or Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser. The prototype was in the Discovery Centre years ago, I have pictures of it somewhere.

You could actually option a 3rd row seat. My parents had one on their old EB which they bought new. It was an 8 seater, with 3 forward facing seats in the back, all with matching interior trim.

**Polyal** · 16-01-2016, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bolly47

where is the car now? what happen to it???
where are ford employee could tell us some stories about this car

please .

I thought it was in the Ford Discovery centre...which is now a car museum in Geelong more or less. There is a member on here who I believe works or volunteers there, he should know.

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Bolly47 · 17-01-2016, 12:59 AM

I have been to the Ford Discovery centre about 4 years ago, there was a BA Falcon with a high roof and AWD which was an experimental car before the Territory came along, what happened to the rest of the experimental cars? E.G V6 Falcons & V6 Territories, where did they go? Same with the Experimental Engines, which were out of bounds for every ford employee at the Geelong Engine Factory with only some exceptions. Where are the stories?

**Polyal** · 17-01-2016, 10:21 AM

Most of the people that have PD stories are still employed my friend, its the manufacturing guys that like to leak tidbits which they can as there is less risk for them now.

A few engine alternatives are knocked on the head during simulation, you don't go dropping them in and hope for the best.

XR Martin · 17-01-2016, 10:51 AM

Did anyone mention the 351w that was meant to go into the EB GT? I think gearboxes were the main issue why it didnt eventuate.
T5 and BTR were only good for about 400nm.

smciner1 · 17-01-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I thought it was in the Ford Discovery centre...which is now a car museum in Geelong more or less. There is a member on here who I believe works or volunteers there, he should know.

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Yes, the 7 Seat Coil Sprung EA Wagon is in the Geelong Museum of Motoring. I am not sure if it is currently on display.

smciner1 · 17-01-2016, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Did anyone mention the 351w that was meant to go into the EB GT? I think gearboxes were the main issue why it didnt eventuate.
T5 and BTR were only good for about 400nm.

I think it has been mentioned. It ran a Roush modified 351 Windsor good for 227 kw (305 HP) @ 5200 RPM and 475 NM of torque @ 3500 RPM. This was put through a Mustang 5 Speed Gearbox (What 5 Speed did the Fox Body run? A version of the T5?)

I think the T5 was good for a little more than 400 NM as the EB & EL GT were quoted for 420 NM.

XR Martin · 17-01-2016, 09:37 PM

Mustang never ran the 351w apart from the '95 Cobra R, which had a TR3550

smciner1 · 17-01-2016, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Mustang never ran the 351w apart from the '95 Cobra R, which had a TR3550

Correct, the article I have says the EA 351 ran a Mustang 5 Speed, I am guessing the Fox Mustang of the era (5.0 HO) ran a version of the T5.

Bossxr8 · 17-01-2016, 10:28 PM

Yeah it used the T5, and then the world class T5 which I understand is the T5Z used in the AU's?

GXL078 · 18-01-2016, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Mustang never ran the 351w apart from the '95 Cobra R, which had a TR3550

1969 Mach 1 had a 351 Windsor as the standard motor.

TheSneakiness · 18-01-2016, 09:06 AM

I've read here a few times a direct injection I6 was created and binned?

Bossxr8 · 18-01-2016, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GXL078

1969 Mach 1 had a 351 Windsor as the standard motor.

I think people were referring to fuel injected 351 Windsors, not carbied ones.

Windsor220 · 19-01-2016, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yeah it used the T5, and then the world class T5 which I understand is the T5Z used in the AU's?

The world class went for a while with different ratings. It got to 420Nm in the early 90s. The Z which was the highest was rated at 447Nm and used in the AUs and BA.

Funny that the BA XR6T engine actually out rated its own box by 3 Nm. No wonder they upgraded it with the series 2.

spyman03 · 22-01-2016, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gothefalcon;

As for something that was trialled but didn't make it... an AWD RTV test mule was built !

Dhru

I can help you with that i've got a fair few close ups of it on file

spyman

eb2fairmont · 22-01-2016, 04:34 PM

Well that would boost the thread no end

spyman03 · 22-01-2016, 04:42 PM

Thanks(Fix)

Yea ive got a huge amount of those hi riding BA's and i have Shots of the very first Tessa on an Au sedan Chassis

spyman

**GasoLane** · 22-01-2016, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spyman03

Thanks(Fix)

Yea ive got a huge amount of those hi riding BA's and i have Shots of the very first Tessa on an Au sedan Chassis

spyman

Sooo, what are you waiting for. Post them up............or are they still following you after the pre release FGX Pics ?

spyman03 · 22-01-2016, 10:40 PM

Hey,
They are on that thing called photo paper

I'll get some more up sat

First territory prototype

Spyman03

spyman03 · 22-01-2016, 10:46 PM

Hey

RTV's dash up close

Spyman

**Professor Farnsworth** · 22-01-2016, 10:47 PM

Dear god

spyman03 · 22-01-2016, 10:51 PM

Hey,

The outside of RTV

Sorry for pics being all over the place

Spyman

Eaturbo · 23-01-2016, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spyman03

Hey

RTV's dash up close

Spyman

Something strange about this one, they never ended up with Hi and Lo and 4wd

XR Martin · 23-01-2016, 09:47 AM

Looks like they were meant to...

spyman03 · 23-01-2016, 10:01 AM

Hey,

One of two projects that didn't make it

Raptor and grissly

4x4 ute and wagon

Spyman

**Raptor** · 23-01-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spyman03

Hey,

One of two projects that didn't make it

Raptor and grissly

4x4 ute and wagon

Spyman

I think you mean Big Foot and Grissly

Raptor = E265 = Territory

Thanks for the photos

.

Bolly47 · 23-01-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spyman03

Hey,
They are on that thing called photo paper

I'll get some more up sat

First territory prototype

Spyman03

Do you know this guy and would love to hear his stories about about first territory prototype maybe other motor project .

Thank for the photo