Covid 19 -

[Cav]

Originally Posted by Tassie f100

Best and cheapest handwash is the good ole 91ULP. $1.20-$1.30 litre.works better than any alcohol based stuff

Are you forgetting about urine?

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Cav

Are you forgetting about urine?

That's easy for you Cav, you just wipe your hands on the grass.

[Citroënbender]

Originally Posted by Cav

Are you forgetting about urine?

People are taking it already. I suspect they're hoarders.

[Tonz]

On a bright note re this virus thingy...we in Aus are damn lucky, warmish barmy weather, many many people out walking, noice going for a stroll and checking out the chicky babes, imagine trying doing that in UK or Amelica, freezing cold, snow, ice, tornados, wild idiots shooting people.
Yes we live in a good place.

[Charliewool]

I’m in.... Where do I get the app?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

I’m in.... Where do I get the app?

Right this way good sir, I just need the 16 digits on the front of your credit card and the expiry date if you please

[Cav]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

I’m in.... Where do I get the app?

I dunno if the idea will float but if we get a second wave then all bets are off.

The problem with social media and us blokes on here is that we all talk about stuff we know nufink about just to big note ourselves.

Remember the My Health kerfuffle and all the outrage over privacy concerns about our health information? Gee what I'd give to see Franco's file.

It seems 90% of the population are in.

Now to this App.

According to those propella heads at govmint the App collates data via bluetooth when phones come close to each other and it retains the data for three weeks.

The idea is that if you get the WuFlu then govmint can contact all people who got close to you whether you rooted them or not. Maybe that's why Barnaby is against it.

If we get a decent second wave then the App will be in, in except for those who want to opt out, just like My Health.

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Cav

I dunno if the idea will float but if we get a second wave then all bets are off.

The problem with social media and us blokes on here is that we all talk about stuff we know nufink about just to big note ourselves.

Remember the My Health kerfuffle and all the outrage over privacy concerns about our health information? Gee what I'd give to see Franco's file.

It seems 90% of the population are in.

Now to this App.

According to those propella heads at govmint the App collates data via bluetooth when phones come close to each other and it retains the data for three weeks.

The idea is that if you get the WuFlu then govmint can contact all people who got close to you whether you rooted them or not. Maybe that's why Barnaby is against it.

If we get a decent second wave then the App will be in, in except for those who want to opt out, just like My Health.

Remember, you cannot un-see what you have seen...

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Cav

I dunno if the idea will float but if we get a second wave then all bets are off.

The problem with social media and us blokes on here is that we all talk about stuff we know nufink about just to big note ourselves.

Remember the My Health kerfuffle and all the outrage over privacy concerns about our health information? Gee what I'd give to see Franco's file.

It seems 90% of the population are in.

Now to this App.

According to those propella heads at govmint the App collates data via bluetooth when phones come close to each other and it retains the data for three weeks.

The idea is that if you get the WuFlu then govmint can contact all people who got close to you whether you rooted them or not. Maybe that's why Barnaby is against it.

If we get a decent second wave then the App will be in, in except for those who want to opt out, just like My Health.

For those worried about data collected you currently share more information about yourself if you have:-

- A mobile phone with any app that shares location data
- Any loyalty program
- A free email account like gmail etc
- A credit or debit card
- Ebay or Amazon etc
- Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter
- Probably Uber.

Except in these cases you are sharing your information with private companies who onsell this information to other private companies and build up profiles on you.

https://www.wired.com/story/foursqua...where-you-are/

The government is asking you to help out with download an app that does 1/100th of what you already freely giveaway now.

And you can delete the app anytime.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by cs123

For those worried about data collected you currently share more information about yourself if you have:-

- A mobile phone with any app that shares location data
- Any loyalty program
- A free email account like gmail etc
- A credit or debit card
- Ebay or Amazon etc
- Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter
- Probably Uber.

Except in these cases you are sharing your information with private companies who onsell this information to other private companies and build up profiles on you.

https://www.wired.com/story/foursqua...where-you-are/

The government is asking you to help out with download an app that does 1/100th of what you already freely giveaway now.

And you can delete the app anytime.

The scaremongering around this app just shows how fragile some people are.

Stuff being a politician in a democracy.

[cs123]

Originally Posted by Polyal

The scaremongering around this app just shows how fragile some people are.

Stuff being a politician in a democracy.

You would think the government minister and departments would be background briefing the news journalists to get them onside and aligned with the messaging.... but it's the journalists doing the scaremongering. In particular the ABC.

Not impressed about the poor rollout of this....

[guzzis3]

Originally Posted by Cav

The problem with social media and us blokes on here is that we all talk about stuff we know nufink about just to big note ourselves.

Speak for yourself...

russelw's graphs are really basic data analysis (not to trivialise them, I'm really grateful for him doing it for me). These data sets are easy. I used to work for the csiro and you'd feint if you saw the mud I had to try and pull trends out of.

Unfortunately the general population have learned not to trust data analysis because it can be driven in any direction you want if you have an agenda. Witness road safety and both sides of global warming....and this virus thing

If it's done properly, which has to include a transparent analysis and access he the raw data, it can be extremely useful. russelw has been doing a really good job of distilling the information into easily understood form. Small round of applause...

[Cav]

Originally Posted by guzzis3

Speak for yourself...

russelw's graphs are really basic data analysis (not to trivialise them, I'm really grateful for him doing it for me). These data sets are easy. I used to work for the csiro and you'd feint if you saw the mud I had to try and pull trends out of.

Unfortunately the general population have learned not to trust data analysis because it can be driven in any direction you want if you have an agenda. Witness road safety and both sides of global warming....and this virus thing

If it's done properly, which has to include a transparent analysis and access he the raw data, it can be extremely useful. russelw has been doing a really good job of distilling the information into easily understood form. Small round of applause...

Gee, someone who knows the truth.

Can you tell us why the BOM has been deleting historic original source data of maximum temperatures?

[russellw]

One last set of stats for today based on the obvious question of are we winning the war against this pandemic.

The only real measure we have of that is the new infection rates and we saw that the polynomial trend line for Australia (above) has about the sort of curve you'd expect with a gentle ramp up followed by a downward curve.

If I might digress for a moment. For those who don't know, polynomial trend lines are used to smooth out bumps in data sets that can be caused by inconsistent data or weekday vs weekend trends (for example) and they can be 'ordered' to indicate the maximum number of fluctuations or bends that occur on the line. The ones we have been using up to now are 2nd order polynomial trendlines which generally only have one hill or valley.

I've chosen a number of countries that have had high case rates and plotted their polynomial trendlines below:



You ideally want to see something like Italy (red) where the downward curve is a bit steeper than say Iran (yellow) but you definitely don't want to see any that are still on the upward trend like the UK and Turkey.

The third order polynomial doesn't show anything much different except it does highlight the impact the measures Germany took (albeit later than they probably should have) has had with a steeper decline than other countries have experienced.

[Cav]

Originally Posted by russellw

One last set of stats for today based on the obvious question of are we winning the war against this pandemic.

The only real measure we have of that is the new infection rates and we saw that the polynomial trend line for Australia (above) has about the sort of curve you'd expect with a gentle ramp up followed by a downward curve.

If I might digress for a moment. For those who don't know, polynomial trend lines are used to smooth out bumps in data sets that can be caused by inconsistent data or weekday vs weekend trends (for example) and they can be 'ordered' to indicate the maximum number of fluctuations or bends that occur on the line. The ones we have been using up to now are 2nd order polynomial trendlines which generally only have one hill or valley.

I've chosen a number of countries that have had high case rates and plotted their polynomial trendlines below:

image

You ideally want to see something like Italy (red) where the downward curve is a bit steeper than say Iran (yellow) but you definitely don't want to see any that are still on the upward trend like the UK and Turkey.

The third order polynomial doesn't show anything much different except it does highlight the impact the measures Germany took (albeit later than they probably should have) has had with a steeper decline than other countries have experienced.

image

Do you work for the BOM Russellw?

[Citroënbender]

Interesting to consider whether the high mortality rate in the US includes a disproportionate number of people with strongly Spanish genetic material.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Cav

Do you work for the BOM Russellw?

ABS would be more appropriate...

[FPV8U]

https://news.usc.edu/168987/antibody...ngeles-county/

[LG17]

I'm getting tired of all the inconsistencies with what we can and can't do.
No groups of people to gather anywhere but it's ok for kids to go to school and for teachers to interact with them, but it's not ok for kids to visit grandparents...
Minimum of 4 sqm per person except kids don't have to worry about that.
Kids aren't carriers and are unlikely to catch the virus - I guess they didn't ask the family where mum got the virus and 17 of her kids got it too.

[Franco Cozzo]

I did the COVID-19 test yesterday night after work at Royal Melbourne Hospital as I had some of the symptoms and I met the criteria for the test, I work in a customer facing role and I've been all over Melbourne visiting people at their workshops and I'm in the age group for the highest group of carriers without the significant symptoms.

Walk in, you have to use your phone to fill in some information, then you walk in and they give you a mask you have to put on and ask more questions verifying your personal details.

You go past the first gate keeper nurse, they take observations, blood pressure and heart rate.

Once this is done you go in further, doctor talks to you about symptoms and prods a bit further -its only now you find out you can't go to work until you get your test results. Once you're at this point there's no going back, I tried to backtrack and exit stage left because of the time off work thing without giving notice but they were rather adamant I'm not going anywhere without a test

Once this is done its into a stall, they take blood from you, a spit sample, then they put this thing like a pipe cleaner in your throat, swab your tonsils then another pipe cleaner goes all the way up your nose which feels as awesome as you can imagine it sounds.

Then its out the door back to the car.

Just got my results now - negative, I'm free to go back to work tomorrow, 24 hour turn around on results.

It was less than an hour in and out of the joint, very orderly, very nice staff.

As far as my experiences go with the Royal Melbourne Hospital, I rate this 9 out of 10.

Point lost for no prostate massage...

[FairmontGS]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I did the COVID-19 test yesterday night after work at Royal Melbourne Hospital as I had some of the symptoms and I met the criteria for the test, I work in a customer facing role and I've been all over Melbourne visiting people at their workshops and I'm in the age group for the highest group of carriers without the significant symptoms.

Walk in, you have to use your phone to fill in some information, then you walk in and they give you a mask you have to put on and ask more questions verifying your personal details.

You go past the first gate keeper nurse, they take observations, blood pressure and heart rate.

Once this is done you go in further, doctor talks to you about symptoms and prods a bit further -its only now you find out you can't go to work until you get your test results. Once you're at this point there's no going back, I tried to backtrack and exit stage left because of the time off work thing without giving notice but they were rather adamant I'm not going anywhere without a test

Once this is done its into a stall, they take blood from you, a spit sample, then they put this thing like a pipe cleaner in your throat, swab your tonsils then another pipe cleaner goes all the way up your nose which feels as awesome as you can imagine it sounds.

Then its out the door back to the car.

Just got my results now - negative, I'm free to go back to work tomorrow, 24 hour turn around on results.

It was less than an hour in and out of the joint, very orderly, very nice staff.

As far as my experiences go with the Royal Melbourne Hospital, I rate this 9 out of 10.

Point lost for no prostate massage...

Slightly worried now as one of my sisters is door biatch at Royal Melbourne.


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[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by FairmontGS

Slightly worried now as one of my sisters is door biatch at Royal Melbourne.


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Ask her if she was the person who wouldn't let some fat woggy lookin kid with a gray 1320 Video baseball cap on walk through the hospital and made him walk around outside the building

[Franco Cozzo]

Getting away from fingers being in places where the sun don't shine, this Twitter clip from Q&A has an interesting opinion on lockdown economic damage vs lives saved in the context of COVID-19.

https://twitter.com/QandA/status/1252492263286071297

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Getting away from fingers being in places where the sun don't shine, this Twitter clip from Q&A has an interesting opinion on lockdown economic damage vs lives saved in the context of COVID-19.

https://twitter.com/QandA/status/1252492263286071297

I don't know about this crew but I've seen/read/heard plenty of people scream about all the deaths that could have been prevented...

Yet some of them have been pro-abortion for the last 10 years.

We're going back, just a little bit. Not a complete reset, but it's happening.

[superyob]

Senor Cozzo, I just noticed your eye watering post count. Surely you have to give up sleep or work to scale those heights...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by superyob

Senor Cozzo, I just noticed your eye watering post count. Surely you have to give up sleep or work to scale those heights...

I've spent a lot of time on the crapper over the past 10 years I've been around

Go into my profile and check out my thanks count, I'm our resident P I Staker

[buggerlugs]

Only in "Merica"............

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...05c0463879bdee

[DaveD]

Originally Posted by buggerlugs

Only in "Merica"............

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...05c0463879bdee

Aww, he took one for the rest of the herd. How sweet of him.

[PhilT2]

Another trial has shown the malaria drug hydroxycloroquine to be actually worse than useless.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...irus-patients/

Another preacher has died too. Maybe prayers don't work too good either.

[Romulus]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

Another trial has shown the malaria drug hydroxycloroquine to be actually worse than useless.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...irus-patients/

What the article doesn't disclose is if the malaria drug combination is given when symptoms first appear the success rate is around 100%. By the time the patient requires intubation just about nothing will work.