Ford: V8 time is over

[HULK EF]

Originally Posted by KIWI-1

Almost as good as a Mini in 1959 - now that IS progress.

although you are forgetting..

2X the weight...
4x the power of the 50's n sixtys small cars.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

Not sure if I follow you here, are you referring to the Golf GTD? If so that is not a DI and turbo petrol, its a turbo diesel with a bit more grunt and sportiness than the golf TDI.

Just about all modern diesel engines are direct injection except earlier stuff from the 90s/maybe early 2000s.

[2011G6E]

Things will change once the carbon tax starts to bite and increased costs for everything, including fuel, take effect over the next six months or so.

Any time fuel prices increase rapidly...in the USA, here in Oz, where ever...big cars and V8's sales drop dramatically. Some years back the big makers in the USA had tooled up to build the massive ridiculous SUV's like Hummers that everyone wanted, and then fuel increased in price rapidly. All of a sudden they were left with hundreds of acres of unsold and virtually unsellable monstrosities that no one wanted. They had to spend more money rapidly retooling the plants to build the smaller cars that the public demanded.

Here in Oz, it's happened before. V8's have only remained viable because petrol prices are relatively low, and they can subsidise the sales of the small number of V8's with sales of smaller cars that sell in big numbers.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Here in Oz, it's happened before. V8's have only remained viable because petrol prices are relatively low, and they can subsidise the sales of the small number of V8's with sales of smaller cars that sell in big numbers.

This, Except recently, it has been the big sixes feeling the blow torch. V8s now being relegated to a
high series niche in both Holden and Ford so much that a new V8 carries a minimum entry price around $50,000,,,

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Things will change once the carbon tax starts to bite and increased costs for everything, including fuel, take effect over the next six months or so.

No it wont, Julia said so...

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Nikked

No it wont, Julia said so...

Ha ha,
Any carbon tax like that has two effects:
1. it changes people's buying choices to vehicles emitting less carbon
2. all taxes and costs imposed on industry will be passed on to the consumer at the end of the line.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Just about all modern diesel engines are direct injection except earlier stuff from the 90s/maybe early 2000s.

All road vehicle diesels have had DI way before that. You won't find a non-DI diesel. You might be thinking of common rail?

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Actually, turns out there were a few V8 powered fords built in europe...

-Ford Vedette
-Ford Comète

both french...

The Comète is a sexy little car. I will get laughed at... but it looks a bit like a Ferrari to me.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...4-ford-comete/

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

The Comète is a sexy little car. I will get laughed at... but it looks a bit like a Ferrari to me.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...4-ford-comete/

You say that's sexy and looks like a Ferrari, yet you think the 300, Charger, Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger are all ugly.

One thing you are right about is that you will get laughed at!

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

The Comète is a sexy little car. I will get laughed at... but it looks a bit like a Ferrari to me.

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...4-ford-comete/

That is a great looking car. Looks like a Cisitalia 202 coupe.

[OzJavelin]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Well, I'd be comfortable with oh, say a Supercharged 3.5 V8 provided it was in a nice light car like a Mustang or mid sized RWD Falcon

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldsmob...#Turbo_Jetfire

Turbo Jetfire: In 1962 and 1963 Oldsmobile built a turbocharged version of the 215. The small-diameter Garrett T5 turbocharger with integral wastegate was manufactured by Garrett AiResearch and produced a maximum of 5 psi (34 kPa) boost at 2200 rpm. The engine had 10.25:1 compression and a single-barrel carburetor. It was rated at 215 hp (160 kW) at 4600 rpm and 300 lb·ft (410 N·m) at 3200 rpm.

The Oldsmobile, dubbed F-85, shared a new A-body platform, using a 112-inch (2845 mm) wheelbase and still-novel unibody construction, with the Buick Special and Pontiac Tempest. It was Oldsmobile's smallest, cheapest model – some two feet (60 cm) shorter and $451 cheaper than the next-smallest Olds .. Overall length was initially 188.2 inches (4,780 mm), and curb weight was around 2,800 pounds (1,300 kg).

Yep .. nothing is really new ..

[RASER]

Originally Posted by XR_Strider_GuY

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Proof: GM are working as we speak on Gen V, direct injection and will debut in the C7 Corvette. No doubt this engine will power the premium version of sedans, trucks and SUV's.

+1

THE best mass-produced V8 on the planet just gets better and better!

Oh and it has PUSHRODS and only 2 VALVES per cylinder

Find the youtube video where a bog stocker run well over redline for days and days and just failed to fail, a piece of gold in GM's seas of s/hit!

[Fess up GM whole realy designed it?]