Finally a genuine "Police Special" from the NSW Cops

[pursuit57]

Originally Posted by XT302

It will be at Homebush for the V8's next weekend

Thanks mate..

[BaraFGXR6]

Originally Posted by flappist

What? Are the Water Police getting one too?

Lol they wish they could!
but no, highway boys will be playing with it. They all prefer the f6 any day but I guess they can't complain if they get given it.

[steve.n]

My ex wife is married to a HP officer and he is a great bloke who also drives a very loud BF GTP.A while ago he showed me a photo of this car when it was still plain white and said it was donated to them by Ford for 150 yrs He also stated that it will be getting towed around (by a Toyota)to different venues Correct me if im wrong but i think he said it is build 150. Dont know if already mentioned as have only read a few posts.

[mex351]

I want to hear and see it chase something...just not me...LOL

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by Kable72

Why not?

Because the NSW spends millions of taxpayers dollars promoting the "speed kills" mantra so they can gouge motorists... A 400kW cop car (that cost in excess of $100K and will be museum piece in 2yrs) confuses this issue. It's almost hypocritical.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

Because the NSW spends millions of taxpayers dollars promoting the "speed kills" mantra so they can gouge motorists... A 400kW cop car (that cost in excess of $100K and will be museum piece in 2yrs) confuses this issue. It's almost hypocritical.

get over it

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

what you have to realise is they get then at govco pricing with no tax ( GST) so when they sell them they will probably make a profit

It's not being sold. It's been put in a museum after 2 yrs as part of the 150 yrs of Police celebrations, so no money will be "made" on it: of course, the speeding fines and defect notices it issues, excepted....

[GTP534]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

Because the NSW spends millions of taxpayers dollars promoting the "speed kills" mantra so they can gouge motorists... A 400kW cop car (that cost in excess of $100K and will be museum piece in 2yrs) confuses this issue. It's almost hypocritical.

It's a marked police car, what better deterrent is there?

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by GTP534

It's a marked police car, what better deterrent is there?

For that price (as quoted in the Daily Tele)?

Two marked cop cars. That will be in service for longer than 2 yrs.

[XR6T0Y]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

For that price (as quoted in the Daily Tele)?

Two marked cop cars. That will be in service for longer than 2 yrs.

Gee, you must have 'burnt' bad by a cop for the bashing you're doing. Seriously, get over yourself. It would not cost 100k+, and you don't like 'your hard earned cash' going towards another FPV sale? Guess we should just burn it instead? Jesus Christ some people irritate me

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

Because the NSW spends millions of taxpayers dollars promoting the "speed kills" mantra so they can gouge motorists... A 400kW cop car (that cost in excess of $100K and will be museum piece in 2yrs) confuses this issue. It's almost hypocritical.

$150k buys:

1) a short television ad campaign.
2) a speed camera (installed)
3) a couple of promotional events a the royal easter show etc.
4) a couple of low level "civilian" assistants for 1 year.
5) 150 glocks or 75 glocks with training.
6) 100 tasers.
7) one PR person to appear on "a current sunday morning today minutes" for most of a year.

OR

A very high profile marketing tool that attracts attention from the target market even when it is just sitting in a cop shop car park.

It was an absolutely brilliant marketing idea and has not only already drawn attenton to the subject of highway safety from main stream media but upset lots of idiots and wowers thus setting up a totally free secondary stream of publicity that will keep this vehicle in the social media for much longer than they would have achieved by almost any other means.

I am starting to suspect that the advertising companies have analysed social media and forums and have discovered that all they need to do is push the right buttons and self appointed super heros, saviours of the universe and keepers of the truth justice and the <insert cult here> way will arc up in all directions with a plethora of outrage, umbridge and ERMAGERD!!!!!!!!

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

Because the NSW spends millions of taxpayers dollars promoting the "speed kills" mantra so they can gouge motorists... A 400kW cop car (that cost in excess of $100K and will be museum piece in 2yrs) confuses this issue. It's almost hypocritical.

...so, the police shouldn't have a goodwill gesture towards car enthusits?



You'ld have to be an idiot to assume that having a 400ke car goes against the speed kills agender...

The police force are showing the public that they are not against people whi love their cars.



Take the police bashing nosense elsewhee.

[xisled]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

Because the NSW spends millions of taxpayers dollars promoting the "speed kills" mantra so they can gouge motorists... A 400kW cop car (that cost in excess of $100K and will be museum piece in 2yrs) confuses this issue. It's almost hypocritical.

I would rather this money go to a police car, than to a centerlink bum, who will blow it on smokes and alcohol.

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by XR6T0Y

Gee, you must have 'burnt' bad by a cop for the bashing you're doing. Seriously, get over yourself. It would not cost 100k+, and you don't like 'your hard earned cash' going towards another FPV sale? Guess we should just burn it instead? Jesus Christ some people irritate me

No, never 'burnt' but have had two close mates killed in a police pursuit - and before you start they weren't in the pursuit as such; they were innocent victims caught up in a farcical chase over a stolen car worth $5K.....

I'm more than happy for marked cop cars to be bought - if they're Fords all the better: but this money could have bought an XR6T and paid a cops salary for a year.....

Regarding 'brilliant' PR this brings - why do the cops need a super duper special car to relate to enthusiasts? Why can't they take an ordinary XR6T and SS to the drags and chat to enthusiasts? Or even enter a few drags? How good would that be? That would easily generate as much goodwill...

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by flappist

$150k buys:

1) a short television ad campaign.
2) a speed camera (installed)
3) a couple of promotional events a the royal easter show etc.
4) a couple of low level "civilian" assistants for 1 year.
5) 150 glocks or 75 glocks with training.
6) 100 tasers.
7) one PR person to appear on "a current sunday morning today minutes" for most of a year.

OR

A very high profile marketing tool that attracts attention from the target market even when it is just sitting in a cop shop car park.

It was an absolutely brilliant marketing idea and has not only already drawn attenton to the subject of highway safety from main stream media but upset lots of idiots and wowers thus setting up a totally free secondary stream of publicity that will keep this vehicle in the social media for much longer than they would have achieved by almost any other means.

I am starting to suspect that the advertising companies have analysed social media and forums and have discovered that all they need to do is push the right buttons and self appointed super heros, saviours of the universe and keepers of the truth justice and the <insert cult here> way will arc up in all directions with a plethora of outrage, umbridge and ERMAGERD!!!!!!!!

$150K also buys an XR6T and 1.5 fully trained police officers....

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by Nikked

...so, the police shouldn't have a goodwill gesture towards car enthusits? .

I absolutely agree they should.

But I'll ask: why should it take a special car for this to happen? Why can't cops mingle in a friendly manner - even out of uniform - amongst enthusiasts at drags/meets/shows - it shouldn't take an 'out there' car for this to happen. Should it?

[Smoke Pursuit]

I dont see the big problem...

Yes they could have bought 3 xr6 turbos for the same price, assuming that this car has cost them $150,000.... I doubt very much that it has cost them that much.

[XR6T0Y]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

No, never 'burnt' but have had two close mates killed in a police pursuit - and before you start they weren't in the pursuit as such; they were innocent victims caught up in a farcical chase over a stolen car worth $5K.....

I'm more than happy for marked cop cars to be bought - if they're Fords all the better: but this money could have bought an XR6T and paid a cops salary for a year.....

Regarding 'brilliant' PR this brings - why do the cops need a super duper special car to relate to enthusiasts? Why can't they take an ordinary XR6T and SS to the drags and chat to enthusiasts? Or even enter a few drags? How good would that be? That would easily generate as much goodwill...

While i'm sorry for your loss, it is NO reason to hate on Police. They are there to do their JOB. What do you do? Maybe you can donate half of your pay to the less fortunate? Why take your employers money? Mate, EVERYONE that works pays tax, I pay tax. Do I care that my money went towards this? No. I LOVE the fact that I may have a minute percentage of the brilliant PR machine. Who says the person they were chasing wasn't a murderer, rapist etc? You have no clue. Super duper car? Mate it's a hotted up Falcon for God sake. Why do European Countries have Lambos as Police cars?
While I agree that it would be good for Police to go to the drags, you know it would be twisted to "the cops at the drags to ping people when they leave"

If you hate Police so much, either stay off this thread or try and convince the govco to invest in something 'more to your tastes'

[Fiesta_Man69]

Originally Posted by XR6T0Y

While i'm sorry for your loss, it is NO reason to hate on Police. They are there to do their JOB. What do you do? Maybe you can donate half of your pay to the less fortunate? Why take your employers money? Mate, EVERYONE that works pays tax, I pay tax. Do I care that my money went towards this? No. I LOVE the fact that I may have a minute percentage of the brilliant PR machine. Who says the person they were chasing wasn't a murderer, rapist etc? You have no clue. Super duper car? Mate it's a hotted up Falcon for God sake. Why do European Countries have Lambos as Police cars?
While I agree that it would be good for Police to go to the drags, you know it would be twisted to "the cops at the drags to ping people when they leave"

If you hate Police so much, either stay off this thread or try and convince the govco to invest in something 'more to your tastes'

Um, where have I said I hate police? Can you back this up?

I have praised police on here before (Sydney riots just one example). Please provide evidence for your arguement.

My issue is with the blatant waste of my taxpaying dollar. It could have been do much better spent: putting more cops on the street (which is what police want if you ask them). As I've said, there's nothing stopping PR and close relations with car enthusiasts: cops don't need a special car to do it.

While I see a need for police chases as a deterrent, surely travellng at double the suburban limit in built up areas to catch a stolen car (that should be insured anyhow, so no financial loss for the owner) should be banned or more heavily regulated. Having a highly modified cop car also goes against all the anti hoon stories that police are happy to participate in on current affair programs...

Perhaps when you've lost mates for no reason (those involved received good behaviour bonds) your view may change. It's very easy to sit at a keyboard and say chase em down no matter the cost...

[Nikked]

You seem to have gone of on a long tangent...

NSW police have either 1. Got this car for free or 2. have got it at "unit" price (hear conflicting things)...so the "its a waste of taxpayers money because its 150 blah blah is garbage. The money is PR, promotion money...not training money...it would cost more to fitout a paddy wagon. The police have targeted a area of people that would not normally be reached.

Police are not anti-hoon (in a enthusiasts perspective), they are anti-idiots. The type of people on ACA and TT are all the same, young lowbreed's with cheap crappy cars, doing skids and mouthing off at the police when they get pulled up for breaking the law...and when their dodgy mods, bald tires get defected.


The police realise that there is a clash of culture, hence the need for cars like this...

It it was just a XR6t as you say...we'll, whats excting about that? they already have a fleet of them...a GT R-spec however, is a different game. Its a car that we all want, one of limited numbers, one that brings not only the history of the GT but Mad Max into one point of referance.


This car can be taken to 100% legal off street events, where car enthusiasts and police can come together and have a common appreciation. In no way does this car go against the police hoon operatinons, or speed kills stuff...its all about, right time, right place, and proof that you can still modify cars within the laws.

[Kable72]

**** yeah, Nikked couldn't of said it better myself!

[Fiesta_Man69]

It cost a little over $100K (unless the Daily Tele is wrong) and won't be sold after 2 yrs (it goes into a museum). The taxpayer doesn't get a cent back.

Mad Max? Really. It's got as much to do with Mad Maxs car as the neighbours Daewoo... A very long bow indeed...

[Bossxr8]

100k once all the police gear goes in it? Must mean that the vehicle itself must have been bought pretty cheap.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

It cost a little over $100K (unless the Daily Tele is wrong) and won't be sold after 2 yrs (it goes into a museum). The taxpayer doesn't get a cent back.

How much does the tax payer get back after a television advertising campaign?

Or the billboards up and down all the highways?

It is a MARKETING CAMPAIGN not an operational vehicle and as opposed to the television campaigns and billboards it will STILL be a point of interest and attraction in the museum for years afterwards.

[5.8]

Originally Posted by flappist

How much does the tax payer get back after a television advertising campaign?

Or the billboards up and down all the highways?

It is a MARKETING CAMPAIGN not an operational vehicle and as opposed to the television campaigns and billboards it will STILL be a point of interest and attraction in the museum for years afterwards.

A pretty smart marketing campaign too by the looks of it. I originally posted this five days ago and it already has had over 5500 views and over 170 replies and that's only one forum.

[Silver Ghia]

All I can say is that NSW police, government and other authorities must have discussed the exercise at length to be able to justify the costs involved and the benefits to be gained from it. If they couldnt show this, it wouldn't have happened. Full stop.

I believe its a master stroke by NSW police to now have a vehicle of interest enabling them to mix with car enthusiasts, to gain more respect also promoting safer driving by the enthusiasts who become involved in the program by attending these showings.

Something lacking these days is respect for the police, and road rules in general. This shows whenever a car chase occurs and something happens, generally the driver trying to outrun the police comes to grief. Every time this happens the police are criticised by the media, families involved, and some of the public, which just shows the lack of respect the police have in trying to do their job.

[5.8]

[QUOTE=Fiesta_Man69;4531746]No, never 'burnt' but have had two close mates killed in a police pursuit - and before you start they weren't in the pursuit as such; they were innocent victims caught up in a farcical chase over a stolen car worth $5K.....

QUOTE]


Yeah mate that's the way, blame the cops. Don't blame the crooks who stole the car and then were attempting to run when your mates got killed. Blame the cops that are out there day in day out protecting you and your family from **** like this and most of the time doing a good job. Occasionally it goes pear shaped but have you ever actually sat back and thought how pear shaped life would be if we didn't have them or if the crooks were allowed to run the place due to the the cops just sitting on their hands due to the associated risks involved in police work. No, I didn't think so.

Things must be awfully quiet in the Fiesta section of this forum!!!!!!

[FGII-XR6]

to all of you who are anti pursuit think of this for a minute

1. the left wing loons get their way and have all pursuits banned and cops driving prius police cars
2. the crims learn about this and realise that they can get away with stealing anything by running
3. the police become useless as they can't stop crims
4. we now have to rely on warm fuzzy messages from the loony left to stop crime
5. yea this worked well
6. insurance goes through the roof if you can get it at all
7. some areas will be uninsurable
8. your property becomes fair game

do we really want this? sure there has to be checks and balances when it comes to pursuits but they are a necessary evil.
believe me the criminal scum in our community won't stop risky driving just because cops stop pursuits, street racing will increase 160K runs down public streets will be come common as drivers will have no fear of apprehension
so lets cut the cop bashing

[THABOSS]

Originally Posted by Fiesta_Man69

It cost a little over $100K (unless the Daily Tele is wrong) and won't be sold after 2 yrs (it goes into a museum). The taxpayer doesn't get a cent back.

Mad Max? Really. It's got as much to do with Mad Maxs car as the neighbours Daewoo... A very long bow indeed...

Sorry not being an *** here, but who gives a rats! Our Taxpayers money is being spent on worse things, like paying the wages of our useless Government and providing benefits to those on the dole.

I would be happy if my money was spent in this fashion all the time.

[Silver Ghia]

Why blame the police who are trying to maintain the law, rather than the crims breaking the law? Letting them go will lead to a lawless society which I certainly wouldn't like to happen. Its happening too much already.

What I said before, there is a certain lack of respect for the police doing their duties. And this vehicle can only help gain some of that respect, which $$$'s cannot be put against. Certainly the benefits will be far greater than the $100,000 thereabouts it cost.