New Ford Mustang arrives in Australia, sold out for a year before anyone test drives a car

[Eaturbo]

It never fails to amaze me that developers and house owners can double there money and more on land developments and houses and have been ripping us off for years. Fuel companies, Gas and electricity companies rob us on essential services and goods. God forbid a business like a car dealer makes a little hay while the sun shines and they are the scum of the earth. Ford dealers have been doing it tuff for years to the point of shut down and bank rupcy. I have no problem at all with them price gouging, if you cant afford it than don't buy it. Nobody has the right to tell someone what to sell there products for and no car is that important that you have to buy it or else. As the old saying goes, it's worth what's someones prepared to pay and if that's not you than too bad.

[Shonky.]

you don't build brand loyalty by screwing your best customers (the early adopters) though

not only is it poor for customers, its poor for the business

failing to recognise this is why they have "been doing it tough for years"

[Eaturbo]

Originally Posted by Shonky.

you don't build brand loyalty by screwing your best customers (the early adopters) though

not only is it poor for customers, its poor for the business

failing to recognise this is why they have "been doing it tough for years"

Well HSV have been doing it for years. I beg to differ as to why they have been doing it tough. Not all Ford Dealers run in this price gouging fashion and they have been doing it tough. Poor model mix, poor product backing via warranty and lack of relevant models are what has caused the dealer network to suffer. Ford dealers were very profitable when there model mix was right which was until the end of the EL Falcon days when they still did 5000 Falcons per month. Nothing changed except there failure to adapt to Aussie cars buyers change in buying tastes. I must admit I don't agree with charging $80,000 for a $65,000 car but if they want to charge $67,000 for it than if you can't afford the $2,000 extra than you can't afford the car full stop. Customers arnt loyal these days and your kidding yourself if you believe this. Nobody will think twice about buying another brand if it's the IN Thing and ticks all there boxes. Why do people a favour when they will just go buy else where when it suits them anyway.

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

Are you suggesting a class action law suit for pain and suffering?

That would be a general Ford Australia thing, not Mustang specifically?

[DanielXR8]

Originally Posted by Sioso

My original post said:
There will be a few new ones available from dealers on Carsales - there always is.
They will have a big mark up over rrp though.

And that is exactly what is happening.
There will be heaps more in the coming weeks and months.

Ford themselves have also mentioned they have no power over dealerships price gouging if they want.

Which begs the question, when is Ford going to get its dealer network in order. They cant ever go back up the charts while dealers are a law to themselves and have no regard to the long term damage they do to the brand.

The sooner Ford sells direct to the customer and just appoints authorised service centers around the country from privately run shops held to higher standards of service the better. If Ford beefed up their technical support and training from the factory, they could make this work very successfully.

The dealer model is well past its used by date. It can go on, but needs a major lift in quality and some real opportunity for competition. It certainly should not be the only way to buy a Ford car.

[Homer]

Another review..

http://www.motoring.com.au/ford-must...review-100985/

[Craig@AUDI]

Drove a 2.3 Convertible today, and quite impressed with the get up and go it's got.

The V8's going to be nice to try once the bosses arrives!

[4stanger]

Originally Posted by Homer

Another review..

http://www.motoring.com.au/ford-must...review-100985/

And another.
https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...st-car-review/

[Express]

Another review

2016 Ford Mustang GT first drive review


Few cars claim to be iconic, and fewer still can back it up.


David McCowen
21 January 2016




After year's of waiting Ford has finally launched its Mustang in Australia. Photo: Supplied





























Few cars claim to be iconic, and fewer still can back it up.

There are a handful along the lines of the Mini Cooper, Land Rover Defender, Porsche 911 and Mercedes-Benz S-Class considered to be significant models that helped shape the motoring landscape.

Ford's Mustang is one of them, a car that elicits imagery few models can match.

Around 4000 people ordered Mustangs when Ford announced that its sixth-generation sports car would come to Australia. That's an enviable number for any new car, particularly a model that has little local history.

As the most iconic name in the brand's global lineup, the Ford Mustang badge is both blessing and burden, giving the car that wears it plenty to live up to.


The 2016 Ford Mustang GT. Photo: Supplied

The latest Mustang is already a sales success, so a more pressing question is whether the new model is worthy of the lineage.

The short answer? It absolutely is.

This Mustang is the first affordable V8-powered coupe on sale locally since Holden killed off the Monaro, with a similar feel-good factor and cultural appeal that made Holden's two-door a modern classic.

Australians are lucky Ford decided to build its sixth-generation Mustang in right-hand-drive from the outset.

We are also fortunate to have resumed a relationship with the pony car when the Mustang is at the peak of its powers, having dodged a litany of forgettable offerings not worthy of the name.

The local Mustang lineup is a simple proposition, with a choice of coupe or convertible body styles and just two engines, a turbocharged 2.3-litre four-cylinder unit and a 5.0-litre V8.

There are six-speed manual and automatic options, though convertible customers are restricted to a self-shifting transmission.

There's just one trim level, a well-appointed offering that counts black 19-inch wheels, HID headlamps and LED taillamps, a reversing camera, sophisticated infotainment screen, satellite navigation and leather trim as standard features.

Better still, the Mustang is priced from a fiercely competitive $45,990 plus on-road costs as a four-cylinder manual coupe and from $57,490 as a V8. Budget an extra $2500 for the auto and then another $6000 for the convertible treatment, or a full $66,490 for the works-burger V8 convertible combo.

Options include metallic paint, vinyl racing stripes, silver-painted wheels or a black roof, all available for less than $1000.

You can't have the Mustang with modern driver aids such as active cruise control, self-parking or or autonomous emergency braking features, and there are no interior, performance or tech-focused upgrades beyond what's included in the standard model.

Enthusiasts can spot V8 models through chrome 5.0 badges on the front flanks, as well as a GT boot garnish, oversized Brembo brakes and a wheel package that swaps split five-spoke hoops for staggered mesh-look rims with Pirelli P-Zero rubber that measures 255mm and 275mm in the front and rear.

Of the dozens of people that stared at the 'stang, gave it a thumbs up, whipped out a camera phone or asked questions about the cars during our two day test, none will have known whether the model was a muscled-up V8 or the meeker EcoBoost model.

The cars are similarly identical on the inside, where a modern driver information cluster and 8.0-inch infotainment screen meet retro-styled gauges and toggle switches that take inspiration from a namesake in the P-51 Mustang fighter plane which was key to America's contribution in World War II.

The aero theme continues with a large analogue speedometer labelled as a "ground speed indicator", though drivers keen to protect their licence will be annoyed to find there is no digital speedo.

Attractive at a glance, the cabin is let down by hard plastics, chintzy faux-chrome switches, flimsy-feeling buttons and flat seats.

It has a decent driving position with an excellent range of steering wheel adjustment, as well as slim windscreen pillars that afford panoramic visibility. We were annoyed by a clear view of the rear edge of a test car's bonnet that had been chipped and scratched by the car's windscreen wipers, as well as large panel gaps that reflect the hectic nature of a US assembly plant operating 22 hours each day, six days per week.

Quality quibbles are soon forgotten when you prod the V8 Mustang's starter button, its bent-eight barking to life with a pleasing woof before settling into a slightly lumpy idle.

Ford expects the majority of Mustang customers to go for the V8, and that's the model we spent the most time in.

Selecting first gear, there's a heft to the clutch that might be related to the weight of expectation carried by the car. The Mustang's appeal grows as you move away, riding an effortless torque wave put forward by the 5.0-litre's linear motor.

Punch the throttle and it responds in kind, surging forward with a rich - if a little distant - voice straight out of the church of muscle hymn book.

It's a smooth and progressive performer, though the Mustang's 530Nm is well short of torque peaks put forward by the latest homegrown Ford and Holden V8s. Yes, the motor can feel a little strained alongside more powerful alternatives, and you have to work the American-born coupe harder to extract its best. But that's no chore thanks to a well-sorted manual driveline and an intuitive auto with paddle shifters.

Arriving at a corner, braking in the V8 is taken care of by 380mm discs with four piston calipers with plenty of bite and feel.

The car tips in nicely, with responsive if slightly numb steering and a chassis that welcomes changes in direction. It communicates intentions well, breaking away progressively if you get greedy with the throttle and gripping the road tenaciously when driven with precision.

It's a big car, one that can feel a little unwieldy on tighter roads, particularly for a focused two-door model. It's not a sports car in the same vein as a Toyota 86 or Mazda MX-5, but a muscle car and gran turismo that represents one of the most cohesive and character-laden packages on sale.

The new Mustang GT lives up to the legend.


The waiting game

Ford says new customers who order a Mustang today might receive them before the end of the year. Production of the new machine is already at capacity serving markets around the world, so people who decide to buy a Mustang today are likely to face a significant wait.

The other option is to jup the queue by paying significantly over the odds. A handful of new Mustangs have cropped up on used car sales websites, with some advertised for up to $40,000 more than Ford's asking price. Don't expect to get a bargain from dealers either, as demand clearly outstrips supply.


2016 Ford Mustang GT pricing and specifications

Price: From $54,990 to $66,490 plus on-road costs

On sale: Now

Engine: 5.0-litre V8

Power: 306kW at 6500rpm

Torque: 530Nm at 4250rpm

Transmission: Six-speed manual or automatic, rear-wheel-drive

Fuel use: 12.6L/10km to 13.1L/100km



Drive rating

Value: 8/10

Performance: 8/10

Economy: 1/10

Safety: 7/10

Handling: 8/10

Comfort: 6/10

Connectivity: 8/10

Space: 7.5/10

Servicing costs: 7/10

Resale value: 10/10

Overall rating: 7/10



Go to website to see video review

http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-revi...20-gmajci.html

[Charliewool]

Not too impressed on the ragtop operation?
Get out of vehicle and take out plastic side panels? Come on it's 2016.. Not 90's Capri!

[SYZ]

A US reviewer says...

I find that when compared to an older Mustang or even a classic, this new one just looks basic and cheap on the outside. It’s truly unbelievable that in a time where the Corvette gets a sharper, more aggressive, and unique design for a lower price, Ford proudly releases this. You may think it’s wrong for me to compare a USD25,000 Mustang to a USD60,000 Corvette, but really there are nice interiors you can get in a $25,000 car and the price of a Corvette goes into many more things than just the aesthetics.

For $60K I'd rather buy one of these...

[Express]

It wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me but I’d be disappointed it didn’t have a digital speedo as my old eyes really do find them to be one of the better inclusions in cars in recent years.

They’re not as cheap as I thought either as they must be pushing up around the 70k mark once on the road.

Other than that the more I see them the more I like them.

[Charliewool]

This 90's convertible roof design has pulled the pin for me.. I'm out!
It was to replace other halfs 370z.. And was really looking forward to our first Mustang!

"The convertible roof is three-stage; you unlock it with a handle then operate the electric system to stow it or open it which requires the car to be almost stopped. There are two plastic trim pieces that have to be attached once the roof is down, and removed before it can be opened. This is a bit of a pain as you need to get out to do it, and there’s no handy place to store them when they are removed. There are many other convertibles that are easier to use, and Ford’s claim of seven seconds to operate is rather optimistic."

[SYZ]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

This 90's convertible roof design has pulled the pin for me.. I'm out!

So has the '69 Monaro-style tin lid...

[Shonky.]

Originally Posted by Eaturbo

Well HSV have been doing it for years. I beg to differ as to why they have been doing it tough. Not all Ford Dealers run in this price gouging fashion and they have been doing it tough. Poor model mix, poor product backing via warranty and lack of relevant models are what has caused the dealer network to suffer. Ford dealers were very profitable when there model mix was right which was until the end of the EL Falcon days when they still did 5000 Falcons per month. Nothing changed except there failure to adapt to Aussie cars buyers change in buying tastes. I must admit I don't agree with charging $80,000 for a $65,000 car but if they want to charge $67,000 for it than if you can't afford the $2,000 extra than you can't afford the car full stop. Customers arnt loyal these days and your kidding yourself if you believe this. Nobody will think twice about buying another brand if it's the IN Thing and ticks all there boxes. Why do people a favour when they will just go buy else where when it suits them anyway.

I didn't mean that price gouging was the reason they've been doing it tough, I meant that a long history of treating customers poorly was the reason.

I frequently hear people discussing the various merits of a number of cars on their consideration list, and having to deal with Ford is right up there when it comes to a solid reason not to go with them.

A lot more people would buy a Ford if they could buy it from Mazda or Toyota

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

This 90's convertible roof design has pulled the pin for me.. I'm out!
It was to replace other halfs 370z.. And was really looking forward to our first Mustang!

"The convertible roof is three-stage; you unlock it with a handle then operate the electric system to stow it or open it which requires the car to be almost stopped. There are two plastic trim pieces that have to be attached once the roof is down, and removed before it can be opened. This is a bit of a pain as you need to get out to do it, and there’s no handy place to store them when they are removed. There are many other convertibles that are easier to use, and Ford’s claim of seven seconds to operate is rather optimistic."

seems strange, I drove the previous model convertible was very straight forward. Here is a video for the current model convertible top

http://motrolix.com/2014/02/watch-th...its-top-video/

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

seems strange, I drove the previous model convertible was very straight forward. Here is a video for the current model convertible top

http://motrolix.com/2014/02/watch-th...its-top-video/

Hmm, in that vid there's a rather large gap in front of the folded roof on the sides.

[GAFA]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Hmm, in that vid there's a rather large gap in front of the folded roof on the sides.

The gap is filled by plastic covers (in the boot) that came supplied with the car.

[goo33]

Looks like the demand vindicates Ford's US decision to shut down Norlane and Campbellfield.

The VPs at Ford's Detroit HQ must be back-slapping themselves senseless.

[Express]

Originally Posted by goo33

Looks like the demand vindicates Ford's US decision to shut down Norlane and Campbellfield.

The VPs at Ford's Detroit HQ must be back-slapping themselves senseless.

They’re definitely been successful in cornering the 2016 market here for American built V8 Coupes.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by GAFA

The gap is filled by plastic covers (in the boot) that came supplied with the car.

This conveniently is not shown in the video and that's the point Charliewool was making.

Plastic covers in the boot? If other car makers could do it without them 10-15 years I would have thought that Ford would catch on by now.

[xr6turboford]

Originally Posted by tempted

It never ceases to amaze me how some people are so blinded by the hysteria over the Mustang nameplate that they are willing to pay exorbitant amounts of money for what is essentially an ugly, poor quality Yank vehicle.
The old saying comes to mind "A fool and their money are quickly parted"

Could say the same thing about HSV as for the back seat the Mustang was never designed as a family car at least they have them so on the odd occasion you do need more the 2 passengers they have somewhere to park their backside and
the fools departing with their money will be happy cruising the streets.

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by GasOLane

Hmm, in that vid there's a rather large gap in front of the folded roof on the sides.

That gap is also there when the roof is up.. But only visible from inside vehicle.
So those infills are meant to be put back in place after either up or down operation.
Can see most not bothering, so you'll end up with the 2 infills floating around in the boot, under the seat, or lost? (and a gaping hole each side)

[Express]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

That gap is also there when the roof is up.. But only visible from inside vehicle.
So those infills are meant to be put back in place after either up or down operation.
Can see most not bothering, so you'll end up with the 2 infills floating around in the boot, under the seat, or lost? (and a gaping hole each side)

That deserves a 'Thumps Down' button.

[Charliewool]

Please don't think my having a dig at the ragtop version is a hate for the sake of hating whack at Mustang!
I love the bloody thing!
Just a little peeved that it aint as "refined" as I was led to believe

[LoudPipes]

What’s the sense of having an automated system that requires the driver to exit the vehicle as a part opening and closing the roof.

I understand you can raise and lower it without using them but if like me you’d prefer a neat finish you’d have the infills in place.

Does that mean before I close the roof I have to park the car and remove them before I can start raising the roof?

[Shonky.]

that is so low rent, wow

[Charliewool]

Originally Posted by LoudPipes

What’s the sense of having an automated system that requires the driver to exit the vehicle as a part opening and closing the roof.

I understand you can raise and lower it without using them but if like me you’d prefer a neat finish you’d have the infills in place.

Does that mean before I close the roof I have to park the car and remove them before I can start raising the roof?

Yes... If they are in place, they need removing before opening OR closing roof

[bernbo]

Tony Abbot must have been in that design meeting and made a captains call regarding the in-fill panels. Probably choose not to mirror the console. I've said it before, i loved ford but jeez that always trip at the line.

[madmatty]

What happens if you open the roof without removing the infills?
also the boot panel alignment looks abit average to