I see Chinese made MGs everywhere!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Mr Brooksy

Many people who buy these Chinese owned and made cars don't realise that even in China warranties simply do not exist (even for Toyota's and other makes). Which means that if there is a common problem the manufacturer will not honour it and simply doesn't really know about it. Therefore if they don't know there's a problem and they carry over that tech or mechanical issue it simply gets carried on to all the other cars they make with that same equipment. Model after model until they 'upgrade it'.

The snowball effect is that parts are not as available for 3rd party warranty repairs in countries like ours with laws that require warranty. Your MG/Haval/GWs etc aren't selling you the car in Australia (unless things have changed in the last 4 years) it's a third party importer who then buys parts for warranty repairs from the manufacturer that doesn't produce enough parts to do warranty repairs in their own country, so why bother producing enough for overseas exports to places like Aus? Well they don't, so, you wait and have to fight the importer for warranty repairs.

I've heard a few stories along the same lines. Warranty is a nightmare, they seem to be wiping their hands of it. They really don't care if they lose a customer.

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

In which case, when these cars get a few years on them, in warranty or not, then it's going to be interesting to see if these cars end up being disposable due to a lack of parts support.

They have always been a disposable item. Built to the absolute cheapest cost. 10 years and you won't see many on the road anymore, there's just no longevity built into them.

Originally Posted by gaz084

My wife just Won one of these last night with Johnsey and Amanda 101.7....she is lady luck,last time i won something was a vhs box set to the panthers 1991 grand final and i was 6!

The Car looks good,with the cost of living and interest rates continuing to rise,its a good compromise for someone that isn't a car lover like us lot and has a low income.

I'd sell it and buy something decent lol.

Originally Posted by Dr Terry

This parts issue is not only a warranty problem either.

A friend of mine bought two LDV vans (he is an electrician). They are OK as transport & have good space etc. but recently one was smashed into by a cement truck at a building site while it was parked.

All seemed happy, insurance coverage was OK but after 7 months it is still off the road due to lack of replacement body panels needed for the repair.

He is not a happy camper.

Dr Terry

You'd have to be fuming. Does he get a loan car from the insurance company in the mean time at least?

[kevino]

Not a bad idea.
I had one as a rental standard hs for three weeks last year
Dreadful car awful

[hackney]

There is an excellent YouTube video( ReDriven) on the MGHS, needless to say, it ain’t that great.Worth a watch.Cheers.

[anobserver]

We've been looking for a new daily, and theres a huge number of low mileage mgs on the market.

Compared to the japanese and korean cars, its really noticeable.

Never considered buying one, though.

[kevino]

Ex rentals
All the rental coys could get during covid was Chinese

[Ben73]

I joined an MG owners group on Facebook. Quite a few people whinging about issues on their brand new cars.
I’m also in a Grand Cherokee group. At least the complaints on there are usually about vehicles that are 6+ years old.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I joined an MG owners group on Facebook. Quite a few people whinging about issues on their brand new cars.
I’m also in a Grand Cherokee group. At least the complaints on there are usually about vehicles that are 6+ years old.

Let me guess, that group is made up of a bunch of Karen's. In the beginning, they are boisterously proud of their purchase, happy to have got a brand-new car for the price of a used one. "Look how noiwse it is, it's got everything en stuff an dat".

Then the crappy quality control rears its head and suddenly they turn into bunch entitled moaners, wondering why their cut-price Chinese made pile of junk is broken.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Let me guess, that group is made up of a bunch of Karen's. In the beginning, they are boisterously proud of their purchase, happy to have got a brand-new car for the price of a used one. "Look how noiwse it is, it's got everything en stuff an dat".

Then the crappy quality control rears its head and suddenly they turn into bunch entitled moaners, wondering why their cut-price Chinese made pile of junk is broken.

Young lady in our townhouse complex has a recent Haval H6gt.

Recently she had all the exterior Haval badges removed.
I asked her dad why.

She reckons it looks more like a Porcshe.

Dads wife has just purchased a Mg HS.

The oldest (Chinese)Mg in our townhouse complex which a guy used for Uber has been replaced with a Tucson diesel ,,,,,

Several new MG s in our complex ,,, be interesting to see how they go.

[Franco Cozzo]

I'd consider an MG3 if they had a half decent engine - Chinese manufacturers insist on making underpowered junk.

It should be turbo 2L with manual option, 175KW/350NM or an 8sp torque converter auto.

They could offer more than just being cheap junk.

They could be cheap quick junk

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I'd consider an MG3 if they had a half decent engine - Chinese manufacturers insist on making underpowered junk.

It should be turbo 2L with manual option, 175KW/350NM or an 8sp torque converter auto.

They could offer more than just being cheap junk.

They could be cheap quick junk

MG 5
Motor ...yes if they option that way
Gearbox 7 speed DCT

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Let me guess, that group is made up of a bunch of Karen's. In the beginning, they are boisterously proud of their purchase, happy to have got a brand-new car for the price of a used one. "Look how noiwse it is, it's got everything en stuff an dat".

Then the crappy quality control rears its head and suddenly they turn into bunch entitled moaners, wondering why their cut-price Chinese made pile of junk is broken.

Got one of these people at work. She purchased a brand new MG last year.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Let me guess, that group is made up of a bunch of Karen's. In the beginning, they are boisterously proud of their purchase, happy to have got a brand-new car for the price of a used one. "Look how noiwse it is, it's got everything en stuff an dat".

Then the crappy quality control rears its head and suddenly they turn into bunch entitled moaners, wondering why their cut-price Chinese made pile of junk is broken.

Every week there is someone asking/complaining about acceleration lag so bad it has almost got them involved in accidents. All the converted say “nah that’s normal, that’s just how DCTs are”
According to owners acceleration delays of a couple of seconds or more is normal.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Every week there is someone asking/complaining about acceleration lag so bad it has almost got them involved in accidents. All the converted say “nah that’s normal, that’s just how DCTs are”
According to owners acceleration delays of a couple of seconds or more is normal.

I can vouch for the lag in acceleration.
I hired one a few months back for a week. Not out of choice (I was scheduled to hire a Skoda) but that is all they had at the time.

Probably one of the worst hire car vehicle experiences I have had. They are worse than I expected.

Turbo lag for days was the least of the problems. I could not wait to take it back.

Frankly a really poor quality vehicle all round. Getting back into my 2022 Mazda CX5 felt like luxury in comparison.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by blueoval

I can vouch for the lag in acceleration.
I hired one a few months back for a week. Not out of choice (I was scheduled to hire a Skoda) but that is all they had at the time.

Probably one of the worst hire car vehicle experiences I have had. They are worse than I expected.

Turbo lag for days was the least of the problems. I could not wait to take it back.

Frankly a really poor quality vehicle all round. Getting back into my 2022 Mazda CX5 felt like luxury in comparison.

Funny you said that about the CX5. Someone on that page had a CX5 rental recently and was complaining how horrible it was compared to his MG HS. As someone who recently got a CX5 as my wife’s daily, I can say there’s no way a cx5 is worse than a HS. The cx5 is a great car.

[Late braker]

You get what you pay for

[FTE217]

MG are the Hyundai Excel when first into the market way back in the day imo.
Market demands.
Maybe the product will improve in time but they are price levelled where consumers buy on price and 7yr wty's........
They are a "flip car" to me before WTY expires.

Landing in Melb for last year's AGP, sixt handed me a new MG ZS or whatever the model it is with just 800k's.
By the time I made it to the CBD I was smelling burning tranny oil.
I stopped in town to get some food getting back in to re start it struggled and all the dash lights we're going off, got it going, thought f it I'm getting to my hotel 10mins away, very slowly it wouldn't accelerate much but crawled to carpark.
Locked it up got on the phone to sixt reported the new car is cooked, rthey asked can I drive it back to the airport to pick up a replacemen lol.....
Arrange a flat top its going no where trust me haha.....

Like one said earlier, get what you pay for.

[DFB FGXR6]

Chinese Car Quality Ranked

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...tesla-mg-place

MG sit at 43rd on that list, Tesla at 19th and Havel at 31st.

[MrZ]

Originally Posted by FTE217

MG are the Hyundai Excel when first into the

I disagree. The original 1986 Excel used quality Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, and was styled by Italdesign Giugiaro (the same guys who designed the DeLorean). The MGs don't compare.

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by MrZ

I disagree. The original 1986 Excel used quality Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, and was styled by Italdesign Giugiaro (the same guys who designed the DeLorean). The MGs don't compare.

My BIL owned one. He thrashed it and it never died. The paint faded on it and everything. 5 speed manual and all. He would've kept it if he didn't crash it into a tree.

[Dr Terry]

Originally Posted by MrZ

I disagree. The original 1986 Excel used quality Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, and was styled by Italdesign Giugiaro (the same guys who designed the DeLorean). The MGs don't compare.

AFAIK Mitsubishi didn't build the engines, they were built under licence in South Korea. I don't care who designed them , but they weren't exactly 'good looking' cars.

They were simple & durable but not the pinnacle of quality.

Dr Terry

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by MrZ

I disagree. The original 1986 Excel used quality Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, and was styled by Italdesign Giugiaro (the same guys who designed the DeLorean). The MGs don't compare.

Pretty sure you;will find they used Mitsushi design,built in Korea.bit like the Chinese “Cummins in some Chinese utes

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by MrZ

I disagree. The original 1986 Excel used quality Mitsubishi engines and transmissions, and was styled by Italdesign Giugiaro (the same guys who designed the DeLorean). The MGs don't compare.

sorry to burst your bubble, in the aftermarket where I get my first hand intel the X1 was a POS for starters.
Valve stems seals/rocker cover gaskets a plenty plus the front suspension was too soft couldn't cope and was junk.
Korean Engineers came over here road testing and get the thing in better order for X2 on.
Aftermarket made a motza selling Excel parts.
Sure some lasted but most things mitsu back those days and pre didn't have a great rep at all.

As for the MG, figuritively speaking the first model was/is the modern day X1.
When your experiecing auto box failures so early in its life is woeful going to market in todays world.
I'm sure they have resolved alot since gen1.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by FTE217

sorry to burst your bubble, in the aftermarket where I get my first hand intel the X1 was a POS for starters.
Valve stems seals/rocker cover gaskets a plenty plus the front suspension was too soft couldn't cope and was junk.
Korean Engineers came over here road testing and get the thing in better order for X2 on.
Aftermarket made a motza selling Excel parts.
Sure some lasted but most things mitsu back those days and pre didn't have a great rep at all.

As for the MG, figuritively speaking the first model was/is the modern day X1.
When your experiecing auto box failures so early in its life is woeful going to market in todays world.
I'm sure they have resolved alot since gen1.

Auto box failures? How? With four whole forward gears?

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by ToryMikey

Auto box failures? How? With four whole forward gears?

Why not have trans failures with 4spd autos.Both the 3spd Trimatics and 3spd BW 39-40-55s were far from being failure proof.Same with the 4spd Ford autos

[Syndrome]

Yesterday I finished my three week "adventure". While my car was being repaired I was given a MG ZS! And in conclusion, not as bad as I thought but still mediocre.

Gutless engine which is noisy. And fuel economy of the 1.5 liter equivalent to my parents 2007 Ford Focus with a 2.0 liter engine.

4 speed auto which operates almost the same in normal and sports mode

ABS kicks in way too eagerly. I don't know if the brakes or the tyres are at fault.

Terrible suspension when hitting sharp speed humps and handling not confidence inspiring

Huge blind spots due to tiny windows between rear doors back of car

Lights default setting is AUTO and not off so always turning on lights

Stereo has no off button so it starts every time vehicle is started. Need to use mute button. And AM reception very poor except for the stations with the strongest signals.

Indicator column on left side of steering wheel next to cruise control column which meant I often accidentally high beamed drivers when I was trying to use the cruise control

Apple car play - enough said

Trip computer seems to reset every time car is started

Odd quirk is hazard lights would automatically start flashing if applied the brakes too hard.

Worst sounding horn I've heard to date

In conclusion for that money I'd rater buy a used Japanese or South Korean SUV which would be superior vehicles.

[stock1991]

Absolute time of your life, including except if u have to claim , brb

[NX74205]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Lights default setting is AUTO and not off so always turning on lights

That's a good thing, IMO. Too many drivers "forget" to turn their headlights on. There should only be two positions on the headlight switch: AUTO and ON.

Odd quirk is hazard lights would automatically start flashing if applied the brakes too hard.

Not unique to MG, many modern cars do that to warn drivers behind of hazard if emergency braking.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by NX74205

That's a good thing, IMO. Too many drivers "forget" to turn their headlights on. There should only be two positions on the headlight switch: AUTO and ON.

I disagree. LED technology has advanced a lot so that many drivers at night time think the always on LEDs are their main driving lights and don't bother to turn on the main headlights. I see more cars driving at night without headlights these days when compared to a couple of decades ago when almost nobody have LED lights.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

I disagree. LED technology has advanced a lot so that many drivers at night time think the always on LEDs are their main driving lights and don't bother to turn on the main headlights. I see more cars driving at night without headlights these days when compared to a couple of decades ago when almost nobody have LED lights.

I think what you and nx75305 are saying is the same? I read your original post as saying you didn't like that the lights automatically initiated in the auto position, meaning a driver would not need to do anything to have the main headlights come on when low light conditions were detected. I also read it as though you wanted to have the headlights on in bright light conditions, so had to turn the headlights on manually. Is that not what you meant?

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

Yesterday I finished my three week "adventure". While my car was being repaired I was given a MG ZS! And in conclusion, not as bad as I thought but still mediocre.

Gutless engine which is noisy. And fuel economy of the 1.5 liter equivalent to my parents 2007 Ford Focus with a 2.0 liter engine.

4 speed auto which operates almost the same in normal and sports mode

ABS kicks in way too eagerly. I don't know if the brakes or the tyres are at fault.

Terrible suspension when hitting sharp speed humps and handling not confidence inspiring

Huge blind spots due to tiny windows between rear doors back of car

Lights default setting is AUTO and not off so always turning on lights

Stereo has no off button so it starts every time vehicle is started. Need to use mute button. And AM reception very poor except for the stations with the strongest signals.

Indicator column on left side of steering wheel next to cruise control column which meant I often accidentally high beamed drivers when I was trying to use the cruise control

Apple car play - enough said

Trip computer seems to reset every time car is started

Odd quirk is hazard lights would automatically start flashing if applied the brakes too hard.

Worst sounding horn I've heard to date

In conclusion for that money I'd rater buy a used Japanese or South Korean SUV which would be superior vehicles.

If ever there was a reason to not tick the hire car option on an insurance policy, it would surely be so that one doesn't get saddled with a Chinese made MG!