Dating 2006 - A girls view - Page 9

LTDHO · 04-07-2006, 12:43 PM

Ivy - If he was only unpresentable due to being unshaven, then I don't think that's fair. However, if it was more than that, then you could've written him off.
I hate shaving everyday, I hate it with a passion. Due to this I do not shave everyday or on weekends. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of wearing long pants to hide our stubble.

With the exception of being unshaven, what else was done (or not) that showed he did not put in effort?

gbright · 04-07-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EDMONTY

you would be surprised how many there are ,nice looking girls hanging out with the biggest loser's ,one being my best friend,do you think she has any interest in me .HELL NO !!!

it's not as hard got chicks to ask guys out i think because 8/10 times the guy will say yes .a guy asking a girl out you might get 2 of them saying yes .

you think youn have it bad one of my good friends dosnt have a boyfriend, admits she likes me (like that) but still wont go out with me she's a great girl and the guys she does hook up with are deadbeats. seems like a bit of a trend that alot of girls dont relise what they have right infront of their noses

Poison Ivy · 04-07-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

Ivy - If he was only unpresentable due to being unshaven, then I don't think that's fair. However, if it was more than that, then you could've written him off.
I hate shaving everyday, I hate it with a passion. Due to this I do not shave everyday or on weekends. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of wearing long pants to hide our stubble.

With the exception of being unshaven, what else was done (or not) that showed he did not put in effort?

Okay well I wasn't going to say it because I actually feel really embarrassed about it & feel quite owned but it was when he said it was an effort for him to turn up, I thought, where are this persons manners. It quite upset me, not because I think i'm a great catch but I am a person who has feelings & I would never say that to someone. So flame me as much as you like about that, but I think it was downright rude & not necessary.

gbright · 04-07-2006, 12:56 PM

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LTDHO · 04-07-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

Okay well I wasn't going to say it because I actually feel really embarrassed about it & feel quite owned but it was when he said it was an effort for him to turn up, I thought, where are this persons manners. It quite upset me, not because I think i'm a great catch but I am a person who has feelings & I would never say that to someone. So flame me as much as you like about that, but I think it was downright rude & not necessary.

Flaming? What for?

It is not an effort to turn up. Or shower. Or dress nice. Or invite you out. Or drive you. It's all standard base level courtship.

gbright · 04-07-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

Okay well I wasn't going to say it because I actually feel really embarrassed about it & feel quite owned but it was when he said it was an effort for him to turn up, I thought, where are this persons manners. It quite upset me, not because I think i'm a great catch but I am a person who has feelings & I would never say that to someone. So flame me as much as you like about that, but I think it was downright rude & not necessary.

got to agree with you there dos'nt matter if it was an effort or not its just downright rude to say that to someones face i think that i would be feeling pretty low bout myself if a i turned up on a girls doorstep for a date and she started on about how much of an effort for her to be there

SBR_SVO · 04-07-2006, 01:10 PM

A good mate of mine once said "Bros before hoes", and I am starting to believe it after another friend got played by a chick big time (knew she had kids, but failed to tell him she was engaged, it is amazing what you can find out through google) and another friend just found out his long time missus was playing around behind his back while he is away with work.
So I ask this question: Why are some wemen players and they don't cop the same wrap like guys do?

gbright · 04-07-2006, 01:13 PM

problem is with that mate is guy's dont really cop a rap for being players its the long lost argument stud= good slut= bad. but both mean basicly the same thing just for different genders girls have always had it worse off in that department not guys

bjr22n_ · 04-07-2006, 02:31 PM

I am a believer that nice guys do finish last and i am a result of this.

I believe i am a nice guy, would do anything for anyone.

I won't name names... but here it goes.

A girl lived around the block from me and we meet through another forum, she had a boyfriend who was also a member of this forum.

She informed me that they had been going out for 5 or more years and then they broke it off, because he though she had been cheating on him.
She asked if I could come around and talk, as he turned all her friends against her, spreading roomers about her.

So i turn up and we sat out the front of her place and I try to be a supportive friend for her. We are were talking about her situation when he turned up on his motorbike. He starts to verbally abuse me and she tells me that i better leave, so i make my way to my car.

He continues to verbally abuse me and starts verbally abusing her, i reply to him by saying i only came over to see how she is. he then runs up to me and punches me twice in the face.

i then hopped into my car and drove home. (only a block away) when i get home my upper lip is bleeding and swelling to my face appears. I reported him to the police and they have pressed charges against him. However, he has told so many lies about this event, that i don't feel safe leaving my car anywhere, fearing that he or his sposed friends will damage my car.

She contacted me once he left and told me how scared she is from him.

this all happened 1 week and 6 days ago.

i now have a scar on my upper lip and all swelling has gone.

this is an example of nice guys finishing last.

mr_xr8 · 04-07-2006, 02:57 PM

final got to the end all ten pages.
cant agree more that nice guys finish last.

04-07-2006, 03:09 PM

just really quickly (post wh0ring) I really admire single people, especially females... shows character. the last girl I was with used to say how strong and independant she was, but yet could not dump me without going to someone else. Not arguing it with anyone!. just to me seems that if you are all these things, you would not have to be with someone.

also the whole double standard been with a lot of partners guys=studs, girls=sl*ts, could debate this forever, and i do have my views(wont go into), but used to have a friend that had slept with 100's of girls, I never thought he was a stud. Then I had occasion to find out why he did it, and it was not to be a stud, it was to heal his self confidence.. oh well he's married and does not cheat on his wife so... IAG!

Interceptor · 04-07-2006, 03:59 PM

i've skipped 99% of this thread, but heres my 10c

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~jenf/writing/rant04.html

read it and consider what you may have overlooked in life

gbright · 04-07-2006, 04:09 PM

"no, it would ruin our friendship" so true and 6 words a guy never wants to hear strung togeather cause once you hit that point there aint no going back your stuck in the "friend zone" for ever you become not even the slightest bit sexual to them like their brother.... or a lamp.

Gunns · 04-07-2006, 04:31 PM

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"no, it would ruin our friendship"

These are the words every guy dreads. The friend zone is the place you want to be after you have broken up, not before either of you have given it a go.
I have an ex that I am still friends with and the fact that my mate even asked me after we had broken up if it was ok for him to have a crack, shows there is a great respect between mates.

But there is hope for you guys out there. Nice guys can come out on top, it just takes time. I am that nice guy that has a great missus and am very happy. So chin up and just get out there and give it a go, you never know your luck.

Racecraft · 04-07-2006, 06:33 PM

now everyone seems to have had their say

vztrt · 04-07-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

Yes I do exist and I know a lot of other women who are the same. Why would I be ficticious? The decent women ARE out there...we're just trying to find the right place to meet a decent man

I think all the nice guys and all the nice girls are all going to different places.
Or they're there but very tuff to find.

FordFan86 · 04-07-2006, 08:14 PM

Anyone else got those "Chivalry, it's back" Beer adds stuck in there head? :s

chich · 04-07-2006, 09:14 PM

The problem is you women. When you meet a guy that cares and shows you all the attention in the world, you loose interest. Like many guys that have posted in this thread i found that you always end up second best if you show your true feelings. I changed my tactic years ago... call infrequently and sporatically, don't answer some calls, cancel dates, go out with your mates instead of them etc etc. Basically do the opposite to what they expect and you'll find the women stay interested because all of a sudden your a challenge because they can't have you. This doesn't mean you have to be an a**ehole - you should still be a gentleman when you take them out.

chich · 04-07-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 347_XR8

It seems that there are some real A*******s out there, that do the "treat em mean, keep em keen" motto. This is NOT the way to treat women. i agree what even happened to the days of the guy paying for the movie, surprising the lady or even opening a door.

I believe its called equal opportunity - last time i checked men weren't the only ones with arms to open doors :nutsycuck

Black XR6 · 04-07-2006, 09:37 PM

The whole reason for all this stuff in my opinion is its just society today. I mean look at the movies being produced now commenting on teen life. All about getting P!22ed or worse and scoring.

I think chicks in general these days are too easy, blokes are too busy getting smashed and both parties end up missing out in the end.

Disclaimer: I am 30 and well and truly older than the ages I am commenting on

Bluefreak · 04-07-2006, 09:44 PM

Funny you should bring this up, was discussing this very sort of thing on Sat night. In my experience, girls have been less than impressed with the effort/chivalry/mind above the waist line approach and the same was voiced by other guy's on the night. I can't tell you how many times I've been served with the STFU and come here routine. I have stayed friends with several of them and they are decent women, NOT cheap whore types. All of us guy's came to the conclusion, based on our own experiences, that women(even good, decent women) seem to have moved away from exactly what you state is missing... THEY are insisting on getting the ball rolling in a very matter of fact way.

Falcon Freak · 04-07-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chich

The problem is you women. When you meet a guy that cares and shows you all the attention in the world, you loose interest. Like many guys that have posted in this thread i found that you always end up second best if you show your true feelings. I changed my tactic years ago... call infrequently and sporatically, don't answer some calls, cancel dates, go out with your mates instead of them etc etc. Basically do the opposite to what they expect and you'll find the women stay interested because all of a sudden your a challenge because they can't have you. This doesn't mean you have to be an a**ehole - you should still be a gentleman when you take them out.

With talk like that it is time you ditched your woman and became a priest. I'm halfway there - just need to find a monastery willing to take me. :Reverend: Either that or I join the buddhist monks in the hills of Tibet.

FF

ltd · 04-07-2006, 10:13 PM

I like many others keep my mind above the girls waist when on a date................

Instead I just focus it on their chest.

brenx · 04-07-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

I like many others keep my mind above the girls waist when on a date................

Instead I just focus it on their chest.

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fiery · 04-07-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chich

The problem is you women. When you meet a guy that cares and shows you all the attention in the world, you loose interest. Like many guys that have posted in this thread i found that you always end up second best if you show your true feelings. I changed my tactic years ago... call infrequently and sporatically, don't answer some calls, cancel dates, go out with your mates instead of them etc etc. Basically do the opposite to what they expect and you'll find the women stay interested because all of a sudden your a challenge because they can't have you. This doesn't mean you have to be an a**ehole - you should still be a gentleman when you take them out.

Well you certainly wouldn't hold my interest then longer for about 5seconds..

That sort of game playing is boring and childish in my books... but then I guess I can't really talk cos I am single

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So whatever I am doing is damn well not working either :newangel:

Ultimate · 04-07-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fiery

Well you certainly wouldn't hold my interest then longer for about 5seconds..

That sort of game playing is boring and childish and in my books... but then I guess I can't really talk cos I am single

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So whatever I am doing is damn well working either :newangel:

Is that interests or interest. The interest people fords i would take it.

ED Classic · 04-07-2006, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Poison Ivy

I’ve been lurking around this site for ages but felt the need to sign up & post what my thoughts are in regards to dating in 2006 for us ladies, considering the majority of the population of this site are males, I’d like to know what you think about the following.

I’ve been on a few dates recently & I must say, I’m pretty disappointed about the effort or lack there of that is displayed by men these days.

I’m a single woman who is in her mid 20’s, I have a good job, a nice car, great friends & family, I have a stable job & I’m honest & upfront, I have no baggage & a great sense of humor but yet I find it harder & harder to meet a guy who wants to put in the effort to get to know me before he starts thinking below the belt.

What has happened to the days when guys asked girls out? When a guy picks a girl up from her house & drops her off without expecting something else? Are these days dead? What has happened to dating?

I think it would be nice for a guy to put some effort in. And when I say effort I mean, nice clean clothes, a shave, aftershave or cologne, deodorant (this should not be an effort but surprisingly to some it is). Is this asking too much? I don’t think so because I’m sure if a girl turned up to a date without any deodorant on the guy would be doing a runner in no time.

I’ve also noticed a rapid decrease in guys having the guts to ask a girl out, who gives a rats if you get rejected, at least you’re giving it a go, 9 times out of 10 I’m sure the girl will be flattered & say yes. If it doesn’t work out, don’t dismiss the girl, she might have a friend who is ideal for you. I have set up many friends, that have turned into long term relationships or marriages but if a guy acts like a jerk or treats me disrespectfully there’s no way I’d want to set him up with someone else.

So single guys out there, please shed some light on what your thoughts are on what I’ve said, because I’m rapidly starting to think that there are no decent single gentlemen out there anymore. And before anyone says I’m after a metrosexual, no that is not what I want, I just want a guy who thinks that its worth a little extra effort to impress a girl.

I can give you one answer to solve everything! Its the modern age with equal oppurtunity so when you find the guy you think fits your criteria Why cant you ask him out?

ED Classic · 04-07-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chich

The problem is you women. When you meet a guy that cares and shows you all the attention in the world, you loose interest. Like many guys that have posted in this thread i found that you always end up second best if you show your true feelings. I changed my tactic years ago... call infrequently and sporatically, don't answer some calls, cancel dates, go out with your mates instead of them etc etc. Basically do the opposite to what they expect and you'll find the women stay interested because all of a sudden your a challenge because they can't have you. This doesn't mean you have to be an a**ehole - you should still be a gentleman when you take them out.

Too true Chich..Agree 100% as long as you treat them like a million bucks and be good in bed they come back every time. People can bag me but like Chich I speek from experience also {20 years of being single,dating, internet dating, Night clubs the lot}. It doesnt look good on paper but the only ones I have broken up with is the ones I have ended.

04-07-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BAUTE

i would be interested if you can dig it up.

Dude, it was on whirlpool, it was a few months ago now....

think it was the top one...

Started off as a question like most things, ended up a massive out of control b1tch session (people with passion). I do recall quite a few comments made about Canberra... it was a while ago I read it, so

and very interesting both males and females saying the same thing, think the OP posted it as he was in canberra and made similar obs about it as yourself.

Here

sorry just had a quick parousal of the general theme, and does not appear to be it...looking for it.... it was about dating.... or online dating... tried searching on the words canberra and dating..

Interceptor · 05-07-2006, 01:16 AM

as my neice put it..... "girs only want pretty boys and bad boys, which phil, is the reason you're 1: not getting laid, and 2: still single"