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Old 21-11-2007, 05:00 AM   #1
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Default tickford xr8-tseries motor builders- kw readings

i thought it would be interesting to see what engine builders made engines that made the most power? i know that different variables come into it, but generally it would be good to know.

my motor was built my sean pearce, and stock it pulled 175rwkw.

does anyone else have there stock outputs and the engine builder (plauqe on drivers side rocker cover)

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Old 21-11-2007, 10:05 AM   #2
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I think the way the car has been driven & maintained & the dyno conditions would make more of a variance then the engine builder.
Anyhow D Gariglio 187.5kw for my stock T2 manual.
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Old 21-11-2007, 11:11 AM   #3
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W. Marsicano built my rig, pulled approx 182rwkw stock. Bit of a variance in dyno's isnt going to help much though.
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Old 21-11-2007, 11:48 AM   #4
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all dynos are different , theres never going to be the same ,
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W. Marsicano built my rig, pulled approx 182rwkw stock. Bit of a variance in dyno's isnt going to help much though.
he did my engine too :
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Old 21-11-2007, 12:57 PM   #6
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i know it will never be the same, its not like it is a competition.

just good to know who got which builder,
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Old 21-11-2007, 01:58 PM   #7
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I'll have to have a look and see who built mine, I can't remember of the top of my head, but with only 4,000klm's on the clock mine made 142rwkw, then 160rwkw with the mod's, same day same dyno.
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W. Marsicano built my rig, pulled approx 182rwkw stock. Bit of a variance in dyno's isnt going to help much though.
He did mine too, I think we all know what I think of his work.
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Good ol "Hector. M" built mine, they couldn"t fit his last name on the plate, but with 168 stock & 200+ with a few basic mods @ a 13.7 in the bag I dont mine I just call him matey :eclipsee_ :Reverend:
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He did mine too, I think we all know what I think of his work.
Yeah I have to admit, I've been keeping a close eye on those springs. The amount of 220's that fell over within that month was f&*king ridiculous.
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Old 21-11-2007, 06:24 PM   #11
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aint done mine would like to though
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mine sez built by...

'n Busu77ilo'

yes its 7`s....maybe its ment to be T`s
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Yeah I have to admit, I've been keeping a close eye on those springs. The amount of 220's that fell over within that month was f&*king ridiculous.
what do you mean by "The amount of 220's that fell over within that month was f&*king ridiculous"?


Guys, I got mine dyno'ed today, i am very very sad with the result !!
30C+ afternoon(hot). The old 220kw auto only made 125kw e

i don't know much about dynos but i can confirm the following:

DynoDynaics dyno
set on RAMP MODE-not shootout mode( apperantly the end result in either mode is the same)

ran in 2nd gear and in 3rd gear(auto), power increased by 1kw in the 3rd gear run , but the torque natuarly increased.
i payed $50 and got 2 sheets which i am very dissapointed with ! :
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I dont mine I just call him matey :eclipsee_ :Reverend:
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I cant remember mine either but mine hasnt seen a dyno YET
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what do you mean by "The amount of 220's that fell over within that month was f&*king ridiculous"?


Guys, I got mine dyno'ed today, i am very very sad with the result !!
30C+ afternoon(hot). The old 220kw auto only made 125kw e

i don't know much about dynos but i can confirm the following:

DynoDynaics dyno
set on RAMP MODE-not shootout mode( apperantly the end result in either mode is the same)

ran in 2nd gear and in 3rd gear(auto), power increased by 1kw in the 3rd gear run , but the torque natuarly increased.
i payed $50 and got 2 sheets which i am very dissapointed with ! :
Dont worry mate i feel mine is lacking to, i dont know why. Not for long it will have an edit and exhaust
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125kw doesnt seem right, id be going to another dynocentre to compare.
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Old 21-11-2007, 07:03 PM   #17
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he also showed me some graphs of other recent cars he did.

HSV 297KW R8 6.0L VZ made 166kw
ED rx8 sprint bade 117kw, with blower made 168kw.

looks like his dyno reads very low.. but still 125kw is bad, although the 220kw auto did a 7.02sec 0-100km/h on the g-tech !?
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Id question that. 166 in an R8 297? I highly doubt it.
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he also showed me some graphs of other recent cars he did.

HSV 297KW R8 6.0L VZ made 166kw
ED rx8 sprint bade 117kw, with blower made 168kw.

looks like his dyno reads very low.. but still 125kw is bad, although the 220kw auto did a 7.02sec 0-100km/h on the g-tech !?
dude, my basically stock I6 pulls 125 rwkw :
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i know 125kw out of a AU3 XR8 is crap !

where in sydney can i go for a decent run??
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Built by " James Husband " I think... with a signature like his he should have been a Doctor.

No problems so far so James if you are reading this you done good :hihi:
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what do you mean by "The amount of 220's that fell over within that month was f&*king ridiculous"?
There was a spate of 220's dying. Most were valve springs but I copped a piston, but that is what happens when Unichips go bad and ECU's learn around them.
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what do you mean by "The amount of 220's that fell over within that month was f&*king ridiculous"?


Guys, I got mine dyno'ed today, i am very very sad with the result !!
30C+ afternoon(hot). The old 220kw auto only made 125kw e

i don't know much about dynos but i can confirm the following:

DynoDynaics dyno
set on RAMP MODE-not shootout mode( apperantly the end result in either mode is the same)

ran in 2nd gear and in 3rd gear(auto), power increased by 1kw in the 3rd gear run , but the torque natuarly increased.
i payed $50 and got 2 sheets which i am very dissapointed with ! :
WTF ? Nearly all the 6 Cylinder AU's are on you !
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The pursuit 250 pulled 221.7 with exhaust , K&N filter and tickford snakehead fitted as secondary cold air and iridium plugs.. And a constant 12.5 L/100km down to 10 on a trip. Gotta love it.
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my 200kw motor with minor mods and made 156rwkw?
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mine stock made about 178rwkw stock series 3 22o xr8. not sure who built it. Ralph someone i think.
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tic-302 that is one ugly reading for a 220.....never seen one that low.
Mine stock 220 auto was 153 from memory after better headers, Unichip got 179ish.
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VZ 297's should read about 220-230rwkw
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i know guys !

all his readings were WAY to low, but he kept on telling me to do the maths !

he said in normal situations a manual car looses around 33.3% an auto around 35-37% on a dyno.

220kw - 33.3% = 146kw
220kw- 37% = 138kw

220kw - 25% = 165kw


what are your thoughts about the drivetrain loss %.

some guys on here are reporting better than 165RWKW out of a stock 220,

is the AU drive train loss(manual or auto) vary so much from car to car??

or the dynos with the high(150kw+) read outs were incorrect?


i still can't get over 125RWKW ! :togo: :
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i know guys !

all his readings were WAY to low, but he kept on telling me to do the maths !

he said in normal situations a manual car looses around 33.3% an auto around 35-37% on a dyno.

220kw - 33.3% = 146kw
220kw- 37% = 138kw

220kw - 25% = 165kw


what are your thoughts about the drivetrain loss %.

some guys on here are reporting better than 165RWKW out of a stock 220,

is the AU drive train loss(manual or auto) vary so much from car to car??

or the dynos with the high(150kw+) read outs were incorrect?


i still can't get over 125RWKW ! :togo: :
I had a dyno read 132 for mine when I first got it, it was a well known dyno in Dandenong near the station that is known to read stupidly low. 125 is just wrong, I pulled 127 in my EL 6 on a good new dyno so there is no way that your XR is pulling 125. I'd be thinking stock auto around the 160 mark.
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