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Old 21-07-2009, 06:16 PM   #1
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Default there should be a cheaper rego for modern rare cars

i personaly think that the state transport departments need to introduce a special scheme to reduce the rego for the special modern cars that are not used on a daily basis, similar to club rego

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Old 21-07-2009, 06:24 PM   #2
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cool idea, the rich guy that can afford the Lambo or Porsche GT2 gets cut price rego to support his flamboyance while the working class guy that loves his V8 ute gets the greasy pole, I think not.
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Old 21-07-2009, 06:28 PM   #3
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well it was just a thought
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No harm in a thought.

Most states have this sort of rego, club rego. Limits the use of the car to club events only and the car may not be used outside of these times.

If they would like to rego their Bugatti Veyron on club rego, that is fine they can do it, if not they can get robbed in rego payments like the rest of us do.
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Old 21-07-2009, 06:36 PM   #5
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I was thinking because i have a few friends that have an EB GT, BA GT-P and an NL FBT and they dont have the money to register the cars. They dont use these cars on a daily basis but it seems such a waste to have these nice cars and only drive them once every so often on the weekend if you know what i mean?

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Tas certainly does have limited use vehicle rego.

Cars are identified with "SI"**** number plates. Very common down here. It is a lot cheaper than normal rego.
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The problem is how do you police the usage, I have a FPV and a turbo Mini, both would fit the type of car but we use them both daily. What would stop me using the limited use rego and the still using them every day. Pain in the butt to police
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Old 21-07-2009, 08:44 PM   #8
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Maybe provide a discount for every other car which is registered in your name?

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1st Daily. 100% of rego
2nd 80% of rego

etc....

just a thought....
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i was thinking because i have a few friends that have a eb gt and ba gtp and a fbt and they dont have the money to register the cars and they dont use these cars on a daily basis but it seems such a waste to have these nice cars and only drive them 1 every so offen on the weekend if you know what i mean
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i was thinking because i have a few friends that have a eb gt and ba gtp and a fbt and they dont have the money to register the cars and they dont use these cars on a daily basis but it seems such a waste to have these nice cars and only drive them 1 every so offen on the weekend if you know what i mean
I have no idea what you mean. What is a fbt? Are your friends driving unregistered cars? Perhaps you could try again using some capital letters, full stops, commas and a spell checker.
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I have no idea what you mean. What is a fbt? Are your friends driving unregistered cars? Perhaps you could try again using some capital letters, full stops, commas and a spell checker.
FBT is a Fairlane by Tickford
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Rare - yes
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well they do have the money to register their cars but it is getting to much, prices keeps on going up they have other cars to drive around then their special. Yes their cars are registered, but what iam trying to say is it is getting too much for people to keep on affording these rare and special cars, i think a NL FBT is special may be not to you or me but the owner !, i think that is a brillant suggestion offer multi vehicle discounts ?
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Maybe provide a discount for every other car which is registered in your name?

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1st Daily. 100% of rego
2nd 80% of rego

etc....

just a thought....
Wouldnt happen since more than one driver can drive the car(s).

Club rego is too restrictive if you want to go for a drive on your own.

My thoughts is perhaps the TAC insurance should be on the drivers licence rather than the vehicle(s). After all its the driver thats the risk, and therefore should carry the insurance. The car just goes where the driver steers it.

Then the cars would be charged just the rego component.

Can't see that happening though.
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Old 21-07-2009, 09:26 PM   #15
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I agree with IEATSPORTS and GECKO, but there has to be a better way, i had 4 cars, hack ute (for sale), nice ute (replacement), Familily sedan, and the old family wagon ( keeping it for the young fella to turn 18, with only one lic driver in the house the REGO is a killer !!!!!!


DBIRDY and SILER GHIA have the best ideas ive heard of in a long time, maybe the RTA could even look at number of registered cars at an address Vs the number of lic drivers ????

More cars less/reduced Fees

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that isnt a bad idea cant
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Yeah cants idea is good, shame it will never happen though.
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Whether the car is rare or not should have no influence on rego costs IMO.
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Thanks Guys, yeah the respective state Governments would loose far too much revenue!

So much for Governing by the People for the People.
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Rare - yes
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Never said it was special once but it is indeed rare.
But rarity should have no baring on rego costs
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Never said it was special once but it is indeed rare.
But rarity should have no baring on rego costs
Hence you disagree with the proposal put forward by ieatsports_cars.
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Insurance companies will give you limited use policies on modern collectable vehicles that can save you a lot of money if you dont drive the car very often most use KM based limits to determine eligibility the RTA could do this too but alas cash strapped governments are not going to give you any reduction even if you only drive the car to the garage for an inspection once a year.

The government are so busy thinking up new ways to get into your pocket that the thought of giving you something back never crosses their mind. :
I am referring to state governments here in the context of the OP....thank you Krudd for my $900 earlier this year to offset my 3 NSW rego's @ $650ea approx. I would like to pay less as I cant possibly drive all my cars at once but I like to own them and wont sell them so pay I must.
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i think a NL FBT is special may be not to you or me but the owner !, i think that is a brillant suggestion offer multi vehicle discounts ?
My EBII 'S' is special to me. I demand cheap rego!

Wait, did you say " i think its special, but not to you or me but the owner"?
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I think the point has been missed by some. If you own more than one car then the second rego should be cheaper but this can't be monitored because someone else could be driving it. I reckon rego should be free and a small charge should be added to fuel to compensate. This way people who use a lot of fuel pay a lot of rego and people who drive their car very little pay a small rego. This will never happen but it is nice to think about.
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I think the point has been missed by some. If you own more than one car then the second rego should be cheaper but this can't be monitored because someone else could be driving it. I reckon rego should be free and a small charge should be added to fuel to compensate. This way people who use a lot of fuel pay a lot of rego and people who drive their car very little pay a small rego. This will never happen but it is nice to think about.
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So you would like more of the tax burden to fall onto country drivers who have to travel further distances and don't have public transport as an option?
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I was thinking because i have a few friends that have an EB GT, BA GT-P and an NL FBT and they dont have the money to register the cars. They dont use these cars on a daily basis but it seems such a waste to have these nice cars and only drive them once every so often on the weekend if you know what i mean?
A BA GT-P isnt exactly a collectors car. Why would you own one if you cant afford the rego? is there any point having it if you dont drive it and enjoy it?
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A BA GT-P isnt exactly a collectors car. Why would you own one if you cant afford the rego? is there any point having it if you dont drive it and enjoy it?
Owning a car like that Id say they can afford the rego, its just annoying that the renewal notice comes in the mail and you've only had the car out once since the last renewal.
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An idea would be to have a limited use rego, say for vehicles that don't travel more than 5-10k a year.

Seems a lot more fair that way and easy to police. Specify that you only use it for 10k a year and when rego time comes up go to Vicroads and show your odometer. If it's 10k or under all good, over 10k you need to pay the difference of the previous year before you can renew.
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My sister drives to and from work everyday and drives all around creating havoc and she wouldnt even clock up 10,000km/year. Down here the SI vehicles have to have a log book detailing the hours, it doesnt get checked except if you get pulled over and the officer asks for it, its too easy to lie in it so people do. Something like this for newer cars would be great but itd never work, too hard to police (people would just wind back their odo/get a new cluster) and there would be heaps of people against it purely because they would miss out and then comes the "well if I cant have it noone should". There isnt really any reason the no rego/higher fuel prices wouldnt work, itd convince more people to walk/public transport and thats what the government is trying to do anyway, plus with the money they would make from trucks/work cars still burning it that could be put into getting LPG prices down so people would be convinced to convert. Sounds good to me.
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An idea would be to have a limited use rego, say for vehicles that don't travel more than 5-10k a year.

Seems a lot more fair that way and easy to police. Specify that you only use it for 10k a year and when rego time comes up go to Vicroads and show your odometer. If it's 10k or under all good, over 10k you need to pay the difference of the previous year before you can renew.
No, limited use up here means that it can only be driven within a certain area for specific purposes.

Realisticly if you cannot afford the rego then you cannot afford to be a car collector.
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