Vfacts July 2022

Syndrome · 03-08-2022, 08:40 PM

The Ranger Car Company is in 6th place.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-sales-figures

2,934 of the 4,439 sales with Ford badges were the Ranger.

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

How the once dominant brand is this country has fallen..............

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-08-2022, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Ranger Car Company is in 6th place.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-sales-figures

2,934 of the 4,439 sales with Ford badges were the Ranger.

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

How the once dominant brand is this country has fallen..............

And yet, they are still here unlike a certain brand that GM couldn't be bothered with anymore.

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-08-2022, 08:47 PM

Brands -

Toyota 19,565 10.9%
Mazda 7879 -11.7%
Hyundai 6792 34.2%
Kia 6711 29.0%
Mitsubishi 5611 5.8%
Ford 4439 -20.3%
MG 3018 -8.9%
Mercedes-Benz 2848 -1.7%
Subaru 2822 18.8%
Isuzu Ute 2748 -19.2%

Models -

Toyota HiLux – 6441
Ford Ranger – 2934
Toyota RAV4 – 2437
Mazda CX-5 – 2346
Hyundai Tucson – 2186
Toyota Corolla – 1982
Isuzu D-Max – 1930
Mitsubishi Triton – 1879
Kia Sportage – 1837
Toyota Kluger – 1766

Ford

Ford EcoSport 0
Ford Endura 0
Ford Escape 199
Ford Everest 685
Ford Fiesta 11
Ford Focus 14
Ford Mondeo 0
Ford Mustang 199
Ford Puma 335
Ford Ranger 4X2 241
Ford Ranger 4X4 2,693
Ford Transit Bus 1
Ford Transit Custom 20
Ford Transit Heavy 41
Ford Total 4,439

galaxy xr8 · 03-08-2022, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Ranger Car Company is in 6th place.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-sales-figures

2,934 of the 4,439 sales with Ford badges were the Ranger.

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

How the once dominant brand is this country has fallen..............

But they do have this model !!!, wow how about we give them a little praise that they foreseen the future and developed a vehicle that is the Ranger that is now fighting strong.

I hear what you're trying to imply but come on mate, the Ranger does exists and it is holding it's ground in a very strong and competitive market.

**Fordman1** · 03-08-2022, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

And yet, they are still here unlike a certain brand that GM couldn't be bothered with anymore.

That’s why I have trolls on Ignore

There will be more postings soon from other trolls

prydey · 03-08-2022, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Ranger Car Company is in 6th place.

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

How the once dominant brand is this country has fallen..............

They do have that model though so it's a pointless argument.

Have you seen how far they've raised the bar with the new one? It's not luck...

Franco Cozzo · 03-08-2022, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

And yet, they are still here unlike a certain brand that GM couldn't be bothered with anymore.

Football, Meat Pies, Kangaroo's and screwing their loyal franchisees and Australian tax payers.

Those flogs who shall not be named reckon they've done no damage to their brand in Australia after their behavior because of Silverado sales, imagine if the Silverado was actually supported and brought in under 'those flogs who should not be named' branding rather than a third party.

Interesting how everyone reckons no one wants small cars anymore but the Toyota Corolla is always in the top ten since it went on sale in 2000BC.

hackney · 04-08-2022, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Ranger Car Company is in 6th place.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-sales-figures

2,934 of the 4,439 sales with Ford badges were the Ranger.

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

How the once dominant brand is this country has fallen..............

You seem to forget, that the Ranger is in transition to a brand new model.These sales are NOT a true indicator for future sales.Once Ranger gains traction it will be a completely different scenario.The old model was in run out mode & stocks were just not there.

prydey · 04-08-2022, 08:58 AM

Actually, 3000 rangers is about the norm, give or take. 6000+ for hilux is the anomaly.

hackney · 04-08-2022, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Actually, 3000 rangers is about the norm, give or take. 6000+ for hilux is the anomaly.

Ford just did not have the stock, Toyota obviously had the stocks, otherwise Toyota would not have had those sales I should imagine.

prydey · 04-08-2022, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hackney

Ford just did not have the stock, Toyota obviously had the stocks, otherwise Toyota would not have had those sales I should imagine.

True, but 6000+for a single model of any brand is rare, even for pre covid numbers.

I'm guessing they just got a shipment and were able to fill orders from more than 1 month... Whatever the case, 6000+ hasn't been the norm. Good effort though.

Vesper Martini · 04-08-2022, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

The Ranger Car Company is in 6th place.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...-sales-figures

2,934 of the 4,439 sales with Ford badges were the Ranger.

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

How the once dominant brand is this country has fallen..............

You keep bring this up, do you seriously think if they still made Falcons here it would be better?
whether you like twin cabs or not how can this be a negative for Ford Lovers?

hackney · 04-08-2022, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

You keep bring this up, do you seriously think if they still made Falcons here it would be better?
whether you like twin cabs or not how can this be a negative for Ford Lovers?

I should imagine if the Falcon was still around, sales would be very dismal indeed.

Franco Cozzo · 04-08-2022, 11:21 AM

Dust off the AU Falcon tooling, make a 1 tonner and sell it for $120K like the 79 series Land Cruiser

Big_Daz · 04-08-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Dust off the AU Falcon tooling, make a 1 tonner and sell it for $120K like the 79 series Land Cruiser

AU Falcon would still be more technologically advanced than the 79 Series..

prydey · 04-08-2022, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Dust off the AU Falcon tooling, make a 1 tonner and sell it for $120K like the 79 series Land Cruiser

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Originally Posted by Big_Daz

AU Falcon would still be more technologically advanced than the 79 Series..

As much as we laugh at this, myself included, it's a good example of not over thinking things and just building a vehicle to suit the market. The bulk of these are just solid work horses. Mines, farms trades etc. They aren't interested in high text and gadgetry. They just want a solid vehicle that doesn't break down, and when it does, it can be fixed simply to get you out of trouble. Part of me actually acknowledges the massive benefit to Toyota.

What I don't understand is the small percentage that buy them as personal vehicles and rarely use them for the heavy duty work they're built for. They're as primitive as they get yet I feel there is a bit of small man syndrome going on with that small group.

Having said that I think there is an element of that with all the dual cab market. At least ranger has comparable creature comforts and tech to a normal family car.

Bossxr8 · 04-08-2022, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Actually, 3000 rangers is about the norm, give or take. 6000+ for hilux is the anomaly.

About 4000 a month it averaged last year. Sold 46,000 for all of 2021.

New Ranger only had 2 weeks of deliveries so August will be it's first full month.

Toyota have been pulling through Hilux deliveries trying to rain on Rangers launch parade, but it just means that future months will drop right off cause they had to pull cars allocated to other countries.

Does make me laugh when people suggest having a vehicle that is battling for no 1 sales spot is some kind of problem to have when it makes up a large chunk of sales. It's like saying a footy team battling for top spot on the ladder has a problem because their best forward kicks most of the goals.

BENT_8 · 04-08-2022, 02:33 PM

Poor analogy because the 'team' is not battling for top spot on the ladder, they're languishing in 6th because their big forward is the 'lone' goal kicker with little contribution to the score board from the rest of the team.

Your forward is like Dangerfield, can win the Brownlow as best in the league while Team Toyota have 4 top ten players stealing votes off one another.

**Fordman1** · 04-08-2022, 07:54 PM

Analogy gone.

Here’s one:

One big forward is a nuffie that destroyed the club in that team camp ( ask Eddie Betts ) the other teams’ forwards are guns, (there are two).

prydey · 04-08-2022, 08:02 PM

Does it really need to be a contest?

If you surveyed everyone at your local shopping centre very few would have a clue about vfacts.

b0son · 04-08-2022, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

Without this model the brand would be languishing in 15th place just above LDV.

Says more about Aus buyers. How many people actually even need a ute, or even use one as intended?

**Giant Cranium** · 04-08-2022, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Dust off the AU Falcon tooling, make a 1 tonner and sell it for $120K like the 79 series Land Cruiser

let me buy a brand new au xls ute for 30k and id buy tomorrow

Franco Cozzo · 04-08-2022, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

What I don't understand is the small percentage that buy them as personal vehicles and rarely use them for the heavy duty work they're built for. They're as primitive as they get yet I feel there is a bit of small man syndrome going on with that small group.

Maybe these people also like all those qualities, one of my old customers would continually update their 79 series and just use it to cruise around on the highway, they didn't actually use it as a ute and it was their daily.

**PG2** · 04-08-2022, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Does it really need to be a contest?

If you surveyed everyone at your local shopping centre very few would have a clue about vfacts.

100% Correct. Ask the majority of the public and they wouldn't have a clue what brand or model is No.1.

I was a car salesman for 15 years selling new Ford, Hyundai, Jeep and Daihatsu and still didn't care about Vfacts.

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Originally Posted by b0son

Says more about Aus buyers. How many people actually even need a ute, or even use one as intended?

I have two utes in the household. One being a Falcon ute and the other being a dual cab (Colorado of all things).

Both are strictly private use and while I will admit the dual cab is not used as much as the Falcon, they are both regularly used as intended. I'd be lost without a ute.

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

let me buy a brand new au xls ute for 30k and id buy tomorrow

So would I. What colour do you like? We could have matching utes.

b0son · 04-08-2022, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

They're as primitive as they get yet I feel there is a bit of small man syndrome going on with that small group.

They also seem to be needlessly agro, Ranger owners more than most (probably because Rangers are by far the majority). In my part of Sydney, there seem to be two certainties.... the Camry will hit you if you give him a chance, the Ranger will cut you off or tailgate you.

**DJM83** · 05-08-2022, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

let me buy a brand new au xls ute for 30k and id buy tomorrow

Pop me down for an S3 XR8 ute pls

Funny how its now the ranger car company.
Wasnt it also known as the Falcon car company, you know the car we all love.

Dont understand why people beat themselves up over cars they arent interested in anyway.

PooDog · 05-08-2022, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Says more about Aus buyers. How many people actually even need a ute, or even use one as intended?

Yep you could chuck 4WD SUV's in there too

Bossxr8 · 05-08-2022, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Says more about Aus buyers. How many people actually even need a ute, or even use one as intended?

A hell of a lot. What an ignorant comment. They are damn useful if you want to carry things, fit bikes in there, or load it up full of camping gear, or for a trip to the dump etc. Ever tried to load a big screen TV into a sedan or medium SUV?

Sure that might not happen all the time, and some people may never do it, but a damn lot of owners do. With out even mentioning the ones used for pure work duties.

Vesper Martini · 05-08-2022, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Says more about Aus buyers. How many people actually even need a ute, or even use one as intended?

You know I used to think that about about the Falcon/commodore ute, as really they were just a 2 seater car if the tray was only used to carry items that would fit in a normally Boot. but they never sold in the numbers of the sedans anyway.

But there is a reason the current twin cabs are top of the sales here in Australia, they really do tick a lot of boxes for many different consumers.

I could list them, but the sales figures are doing the talking.

b0son · 05-08-2022, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

A hell of a lot. What an ignorant comment. They are damn useful if you want to carry things, fit bikes in there, or load it up full of camping gear, or for a trip to the dump etc. Ever tried to load a big screen TV into a sedan or medium SUV?

There's a Ranger on practically every 2nd street in my suburb. Seeing one with something in the back is the exception, not the rule. As far as cargo space goes, there's more space (maybe not height-wise) in a SUV with the rear seats down. I'm perplexed why someone who is not a tradie would buy a Ranger over an Everest.