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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...0-for-new-cars
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Meh, I call it scrappage on the cheap.
USA was offering up to US$4,500 on certain gas guzzlers, is this any more than an election stunt? Let's see, 200,000 cars at $2,000 a pop...the taxpayer is coughing up $400 million!!! Not much of a dent on estimated pool of 2 million pre 1995 vehicles, surely the government can spend our money far more effectively CO2 capture for coal fired power plants.... I would find that a far better application of scarce funds.... |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Would be ok aslong as they dont scrap cars that people are still interested in. Can just see them crushing an XY GT into a cube without realising what it is.
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Time to keep an eye on the scrap yard, might find a bargain or ten!!
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There's an estimated pool of two million pre 1995 vehicles out there, the great majority of owners won't be interested in trading their cars in on selected new vehicles. Those owners of pre 1995 intending to buying a new vehicle now have a $2,00 wind fall but I wonder how many of those allocated 200,000 vehicle owners will take up the offer. |
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[/QUOTE] From January next year anyone who trades in a car manufactured before 1995 for one that meets emissions standards will receive a $2000 rebate from the government.[/QUOTE]
Which emission standard? |
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they would be better off increasing the rebate on lpg conversions again. my pre95 5.0 uses no petrol lol
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i hear what you're saying though and the opportunity for folks to get cheaper transport costs through LPG can't be denied. |
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Julia Gillard offers $2000 for people to trade-in pre-1995 car for a new vehicle
From: AAP July 24, 2010 11:37AM THE Federal Government will give $2000 to anyone who updates their old car, Prime Minister Julia Gillard said today. From January next year anyone who trades in a car manufactured before 1995 for one that meets emissions standards will receive a $2000 rebate from the government. "Australians own a lot of old motor cars, and those old cars guzzle a lot of petrol and they spew out a lot of pollution," Ms Gillard told reporters in the marginal Labor-held electorate of Forde, on Brisbane's southside. "I want to help Australians to update their motor vehicles," she said, noting that the old cars would be turned into scrap metal. The rebate will be on offer for 200,000 new vehicles, costing the Government $394 million. Ms Gillard also announced new mandatory fuel efficiency standards for all new cars from 2015.
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http://www.theage.com.au/national/gi...724-10pce.html
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what cars carry the rebate as in if i trade a old ea sedan, am i allowed to trade it in on a new gt an get the rebate?
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Seriously who owns a pre 1995 that can afford to buy a new car, virtually no one and what difference in $2000 gonna make when they are still 20 grand short.
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Ronald McDonalds clown show....
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In reality $2k only really means you can upgrade to possibly the same model car. I agree with increasing the LPG rebate back to $2k.
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Cash for clunkers is a retarded policy. Taking tax payers money to destroy cars that work and then encouraging people to borrow money for cars they do not need.
LPG rebate makes much more sense. |
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do you have to buy a new car? or just one that meets efficient standards? eg: 6-18 months old? or does she mean one that meets the most current emissions as of the time you claim the 2K?
euro4? euro5?
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What difference does 5c make in an item that costs $199.95 or $10 make in a car thats $29,990? SFA in the scheme of things, but that little bit is enough to make an item appear 'cheaper'. Cheers, Jason |
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brilliant idea, first bloody clunker that needs to be traded in and scrapped is that brainless bimbo gillard
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So I could trade in my Colt on a new Fiesta or something and get $2000 for a car that's worth $400 if I'm lucky?
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What an absolutely piece of crap, and a complete insult to anyone with half a brain.
Its just another Labour piece of spin to try and win over someone, and try and put some sort of green edge to it. for. 1) There is absolutely no guarantee that a particular pre 1995 model, is any more thirstier on fuel, or more polluting than a current model. 2) Any pre 1995 model now being driven around in australia, is already here. With 84% of cars imported, one has to account the pollution caused by getting those cars here. 3) As per following link. http://www.peakoil.org/Research.html It takes 27 barrels of oil to make a new car, as opposed to none to let an old one grow older. 27 barrels of oil is suprisingly, close to $2000. 4) The reason why someone is probably driving a pre 1995 car (under $2000), is probably because they cant afford $15000 for a base model new car, or just dont want one. 5) Its totally value destructive. Australia currently has a potential 200,000 cars out there worth $400 million. The government wants to turn this $400 million into $zero. Its simply another, "quick i gotta come up with something to please the masses, no matter how stupid it is, as its only taxpayers money i am wasting" election idea. |
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@Bob, well I don't know what the mentality behind the Australian version of this scheme is, but the US Cash For Clunkers was more about getting people in to new car showrooms and buying cars than it was about reducing the oil consumption. If they think it will have a significant impact on the environment, then they are idiots. But I don't think the program is entirely bad either.
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I love watching the cars destroyed in the US on You Tube most of them put more smoke and crap in the air than they every made whilst functioning normaly and half of them blow up throw things out the side and contaminate the ground below brilliant idea.
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Theres no doubt that swapping a pre 95 landcruiser for 2010 corolla may have a beneficial impact on the environment. But I doubt there would be any advantage in swapping a pre 95 suzuki for a 2010 falcon. |
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As far as the "wrecker deals" I suspect anything handed in would be mandatorily destroyed. The idea is to get the old stuff off the road not make good deals for "enthusiasts". |
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I can see alot of concern within the green ranks. On one hand they'll want to support it, on the other they won't because most of them own something built before 1994!
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theres nothing in the aussie new car market that I want to buy.
old cars are more fun. my next car will be an old school muscle car to accompany the AU
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