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Old 23-12-2023, 11:09 AM   #1
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Every Defender I ve seen on the Gc and there’s quite a few looks like it’s driven by a female ( influencer type) and never goes off road
Proper oldschool live axle defenders or the new generation pretender?
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70 series all males 25/45 tradies mainly pursuing the tough guy image
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Out of all the engine choices available, why would you go with BMW over someone like Cummins for the diesel
Look at where the Genadier comes from.... euro based = euro engines.
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Ford Godzilla/GM L8T for the unleaded.
Vehicle size doesnt really warrant a big V8 IMO
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Proper oldschool live axle defenders or the new generation pretender?

Complete with man bun or lumberjack beard and skinny jeans?

Look at where the Genadier comes from.... euro based = euro engines.

Vehicle size doesnt really warrant a big V8 IMO
Indeed its based in Europe but they've also claimed the Australian market is key for them, and that they see the 70 series as the competition.

The VDJ79 has a years long waiting list, is selling for $30K+ above RRP and has a V8 (even though its trash).

I reckon reliability and parts availability is going to be a problem for the Ineos Grenadier in Australia, I'm very suspect on the choice of engines and our **** fuel.
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Old 23-12-2023, 02:14 PM   #3
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Hold onto your hats because the 70 series has been updated to auto and the (wait for it) 2.8 is supposedly a bit grunty in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBq41s7AsJU

I like it!

Wheel track remains the same as a sort of easter egg for the buyer to find out about later
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Hold onto your hats because the 70 series has been updated to auto and the (wait for it) 2.8 is supposedly a bit grunty in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBq41s7AsJU

I like it!

Wheel track remains the same as a sort of easter egg for the buyer to find out about later




Well, we know the BMW Ineos Grenadier in both unleaded and diesel forms is going to clap the 70 series cheeks big time.

Seriously though the 2.8L version of the 70 series is a big step up over the V8, though I'm not sure how you take out an OHC V8, put in a 4 cylinder engine and end up with less room in the engine bay

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Hold onto your hats because the 70 series has been updated to auto and the (wait for it) 2.8 is supposedly a bit grunty in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBq41s7AsJU

I like it!

Wheel track remains the same as a sort of easter egg for the buyer to find out about later
Perfect for a drive down to F45, the craft beer shop or down to get that quick trim of the fashionable Ned Kelly beard.
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Proper oldschool live axle defenders or the new generation pretender?

Complete with man bun or lumberjack beard and skinny jeans?

Look at where the Genadier comes from.... euro based = euro engines.

Vehicle size doesnt really warrant a big V8 IMO
All new gen Defenders
Some man buns well quite a few
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Proper oldschool live axle defenders or the new generation pretender?

Complete with man bun or lumberjack beard and skinny jeans?

Look at where the Genadier comes from.... euro based = euro engines.

Vehicle size doesnt really warrant a big V8 IMO
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Yes the Lumberjack Ned Kelly force is strong with this one

But that frontier beard styling is how the west was won.

I'd consider the 76 with the 2.8 if all I did was West Oz, it'd be OK for driving there and back with offroad adventure detours. Prob not best for all the running to the shops or the nearby beach (all roads in bitumen) with the diesel and the DPF in the meantime.

Out of interest, the fastest cars I've seen on the Gt Alpine Road are not Lambos or anything like that, but the snow companys staff in the 2.8 Prados...
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Yes the Lumberjack Ned Kelly force is strong with this one

But that frontier beard styling is how the west was won.

I'd consider the 76 with the 2.8 if all I did was West Oz, it'd be OK for driving there and back with offroad adventure detours. Prob not best for all the running to the shops or the nearby beach (all roads in bitumen) with the diesel and the DPF in the meantime.

Out of interest, the fastest cars I've seen on the Gt Alpine Road are not Lambos or anything like that, but the snow companys staff in the 2.8 Prados...
Fastest I've spotted on the Great Alpine Rd are usually cyclist in Summer. Disc brake road bikes are super fast downhill.
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Yes the Lumberjack Ned Kelly force is strong with this one

But that frontier beard styling is how the west was won.

I'd consider the 76 with the 2.8 if all I did was West Oz, it'd be OK for driving there and back with offroad adventure detours. Prob not best for all the running to the shops or the nearby beach (all roads in bitumen) with the diesel and the DPF in the meantime.

Out of interest, the fastest cars I've seen on the Gt Alpine Road are not Lambos or anything like that, but the snow companys staff in the 2.8 Prados...
Prado is not very fast anywhere let alone on a twisty rd ...
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Prado is not very fast anywhere let alone on a twisty rd ...
I know, yet they run that road as if possessed with some unnatural power...
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