Car Detailing - What products are your go to? - Page 51

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-10-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FormulaFG

With the long weekend upon us I finally got around to using my new Makita DA polisher. After all the recommendations I decided to try out the Scholl S20 Black. I will say I'm impressed with the polisher but you can keep the S20.

Did not give me the result I was looking for at all and then left this horrible black residue over the panel, which then stopped the product I switched to from doing its job. Had to spray and wipe the car until I got all of that off, slowed me down massively.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong but that's enough for me to never use it again. Anyone who wants a brand new bottle only used once can have it if you pay the postage.

Sorry to hear that, can't say I have had that happen. It's actually been a while since I have used S20, so my direct knowledge on it is a little hazy. I'm wondering if you working time was not dialed in? What pad were you using it on?

Either way, I hate it when stuff like that happens, it's very demotivating, especially with a well-regarded product.

**fordomatic** · 03-10-2022, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FormulaFG

Anyone who wants a brand new bottle only used once can have it if you pay the postage.

I'll take it mate

I've never had a single issue with it, i've used it on all car makes. Less is more, you keep working it until it's almost see through and wipe off. I have lots of other products i use for correction but I usually finish with a pass of S20.

There are so many factors here at play, the pad type, speed of machine, paint type, working time, weather conditions etc etc. It's also not great at cutting heaps of heavy defects, but it's not designed for that.

**DJM83** · 03-10-2022, 02:35 PM

Just put in another order at wax it.
4L NV Snow+ found it awesome, and only got the bigger one as the 1L is OOS and it'll be handy now having to wash the missus new Tuscon now to (even though its been ceramic coated), its driven daily but my ute is painless as its rarely driven.
Car Pro bug out
Poorboy's Non-Acid Wheel Cleaner
I have NV purge atm, and yeah its not bad and this'll sound stupid, but the trigger nozzle that came with it caused it to leak when it was screwed on, i lost probably half the bottle before i noticed, i had to store it with the nozzle unscrewed. Contacted waxit about it and whilst they didnt fob me off, they just said they'd check to see whats going on. So rather than risk it again i thought id take the chance on the Poorboys.

prydey · 03-10-2022, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Just put in another order at wax it.
4L NV Snow+ found it awesome, and only got the bigger one as the 1L is OOS and it'll be handy now having to wash the missus new Tuscon now to (even though its been ceramic coated), its driven daily but my ute is painless as its rarely driven.

Just need mindful the NV Snow+ isn't ph neutral so they say it can remove spray on coatings. Assume it's ok for ceramic coating. DFB will no doubt be able to clarify.

**DJM83** · 03-10-2022, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Just need mindful the NV Snow+ isn't ph neutral so they say it can remove spray on coatings. Assume it's ok for ceramic coating. DFB will no doubt be able to clarify.

Never really thought of that, rookie error. That said, missus car should be ok i think. I think with my ute thats rarely driven and spends most of its life under a car cover in the garage should be ok.
Ive contacted wax it anyway just to clarify. I might change to the normal NV Snow as i was impressed with that also.

Edit- not that i doubt anyones knowledge here

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-10-2022, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJM83

Never really thought of that, rookie error. That said, missus car should be ok i think. I think with my ute thats rarely driven and spends most of its life under a car cover in the garage should be ok.
Ive contacted wax it anyway just to clarify. I might change to the normal NV Snow as i was impressed with that also.

Edit- not that i doubt anyones knowledge here

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJM83

Just put in another order at wax it.
4L NV Snow+ found it awesome, and only got the bigger one as the 1L is OOS and it'll be handy now having to wash the missus new Tuscon now to (even though its been ceramic coated), its driven daily but my ute is painless as its rarely driven.
Car Pro bug out
Poorboy's Non-Acid Wheel Cleaner
I have NV purge atm, and yeah its not bad and this'll sound stupid, but the trigger nozzle that came with it caused it to leak when it was screwed on, i lost probably half the bottle before i noticed, i had to store it with the nozzle unscrewed. Contacted waxit about it and whilst they didnt fob me off, they just said they'd check to see whats going on. So rather than risk it again i thought id take the chance on the Poorboys.

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Originally Posted by prydey

Just need mindful the NV Snow+ isn't ph neutral so they say it can remove spray on coatings. Assume it's ok for ceramic coating. DFB will no doubt be able to clarify.

Firstly, I have had Purge leak like that too, to the point where I screw the sprayer head closed after use to prevent the product from pressurizing up and out the tip.

For Snow and Snow+, the official pH readings for those products are -

Snow - 7.2
Snow+ - 8.1

At those readings, you will be fine to use both for ceramic coatings and non ceramic coated vehicles. But...........

I pH tested both of those soaps and got very different readings, even after several tests and cross checking with other products. Snow was closer to 9.8 and Snow+ was above 11.

If it were me, I would change your order to Snow and keep Snow+ for decontamination or the occasional deep clean.

EDIT: I was given a response to those readings which I was happy with. PM me if you want the run down.

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-10-2022, 06:01 PM

Last week, Waxit were offering a free gift on every fourth order, of course I chose to play along.

Having not ordered the Economax Brush Set, I assume I won the lucky dip. Or maybe they recognized my name?

https://www.waxit.com.au/products/ec...781ef60b&_ss=r

In fact, the 500ml bottle of Eraser was a loyalty points redemption, and the sample size of Boost v2 was a freebie too.

This is the first time I have managed to get a 3.8lt size of Wise Guy, it's always been either sold out or their website had a glitch that prevented placing the order for the larger size. (Waxit are in the process of designed an all-new website, which I think will serve them better than their glitchy current website.)

https://www.waxit.com.au/products/sh...e&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Another order, another new tyre dressing.

https://www.waxit.com.au/products/au...087bae7c&_ss=r

NV Purge for stock -

https://www.waxit.com.au/products/nv...e&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Lastly, a Carpro Measure dilution aid for my bottle of P&S Absolute -

https://www.waxit.com.au/products/ca...e&_ss=e&_v=1.0

**DJM83** · 04-10-2022, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Firstly, I have had Purge leak like that too, to the point where I screw the sprayer head closed after use to prevent the product from pressurizing up and out the tip.

For Snow and Snow+, the official pH readings for those products are -

Snow - 7.2
Snow+ - 8.1

At those readings, you will be fine to use both for ceramic coatings and non ceramic coated vehicles. But...........

I pH tested both of those soaps and got very different readings, even after several tests and cross checking with other products. Snow was closer to 9.8 and Snow+ was above 11.

If it were me, I would change your order to Snow and keep Snow+ for decontamination or the occasional deep clean.

EDIT: I was given a response to those readings which I was happy with. PM me if you want the run down.

PM Sent.
Also Waxit were happy to change the order to the regular snow.

**fordomatic** · 07-10-2022, 10:15 PM

I’ve used 50ml in 1l in the past and it’s been fine. I feel the cleaning power of Snow is better though.

**DFB FGXR6** · 07-10-2022, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fordomatic

I’ve used 50ml in 1l in the past and it’s been fine. I feel the cleaning power of Snow is better though.

Snow certainly cleans better, but then it's actually more alkaline than what NV officially quote, that alkalinity is what makes the difference.

prydey · 07-10-2022, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Snow certainly cleans better, but then it's actually more alkaline than what NV officially quote, that alkalinity is what makes the difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordomatic

I’ve used 50ml in 1l in the past and it’s been fine. I feel the cleaning power of Snow is better though.

I think that tips the scales back in favour of snow. I do like it's cleaning power as a foam.

bangm001 · 14-10-2022, 12:30 PM

Awsome stuff as usual DFB! Which of the 3: Car pro reset, Koch Chemie GSF or Gyeon Bathe would you recommend for me given i only bucket wash ?

**DFB FGXR6** · 14-10-2022, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bangm001

Awsome stuff as usual DFB! Which of the 3: Car pro reset, Koch Chemie GSF or Gyeon Bathe would you recommend for me given i only bucket wash ?

If your car is ceramic coated, then Carpro Reset.

Otherwise, I would go for Koch Chemie GSF, this rates at 7.5 in pH compared to 6 for Bather, in theory being gentler on wax's and sealants.

For Bucket Washing -

Add 30ml of Reset to 10 - 15 liters of water. (Reset is WAY more concentrated, so you can get away with only that amount.)

Add 50ml of GSF to 10lt of water.

I probably use more than those recommendations without problem.

JADED6 · 17-10-2022, 01:25 AM

Awesome posts DFB, are most of the products in your ratings guide available online?
I will hunt some down when it comes time to restock.

**DFB FGXR6** · 17-10-2022, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JADED6

Awesome posts DFB, are most of the products in your ratings guide available online?
I will hunt some down when it comes time to restock.

I wrote this up a few months ago, updating it as needed.

Any product listed there you can buy with confidence.

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11494985

EDIT: Oops, I may have read that wrong.

Yes, most of the products I use are sourced from online retailers. A select few, like Meguair's, Bowdens and Invisible Glass are had from the big box retailers.

If there is a particular product you are looking for, let me know and I will steer you in the right direction.

**DFB FGXR6** · 17-10-2022, 09:06 PM

Would a run down on detailing suppliers in Australia be helpful to anyone here?

bangm001 · 18-10-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Would a run down on detailing suppliers in Australia be helpful to anyone here?

Yes please, and a heads up of when stuff goes on sale too! ;-)

**GasoLane** · 18-10-2022, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bangm001

Yes please, and a heads up of when stuff goes on sale too! ;-)

I'm sure that if DFB puts up a suppliers list members here can join each company's mailing list to be notified of specials, instead of him having to waste time monitoring each one before passing it on here.

prydey · 18-10-2022, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Would a run down on detailing suppliers in Australia be helpful to anyone here?

My bank account says no...

I use waxit and detail store. That keeps me poor enough.

**FTE217** · 18-10-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

My bank account says no...

I use waxit and detail store. That keeps me poor enough.

haha agree - why get your head more messed up

If you can't get anough of your needs via those 2 sites we'd all be DFB's

bangm001 · 01-11-2022, 12:32 PM

Hi DFB and all,
what is the best way to clean under a car that hasnt been cleaned ever underneath and is approx 17 years old. I have jacked it up used a good degreaser, another cleaner/degreaser, then the usual meguiars car wash i use, at all steps I agitated with a brush, then hosed down was my method. It came up obviously much cleaner but theres still old black road grime that wont budge without serious scrubbing. I am yet to try a pressure washer which will be my next move.

**DFB FGXR6** · 01-11-2022, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bangm001

Hi DFB and all,
what is the best way to clean under a car that hasnt been cleaned ever underneath and is approx 17 years old. I have jacked it up used a good degreaser, another cleaner/degreaser, then the usual meguiars car wash i use, at all steps I agitated with a brush, then hosed down was my method. It came up obviously much cleaner but theres still old black road grime that wont budge without serious scrubbing. I am yet to try a pressure washer which will be my next move.

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First of all, what a stunner that F6 is!! I think the BA version of the Typhoon was so perfectly executed, subtle aggression as they would say.

Ahhh, undercarriage cleaning. I think back to my early 20's laying on my back cleaning parts of a car only the mechanic would see. All done with a rag and bottle of soapy water.

I think you have gone about it the right way, using chemicals and a brush. The only other suggestion would be to pre-soak everything in a high alkaline cleaner like Shine Supply Wise Guy, leave it to dwell for 10 minutes and then blast it off with a pressure washer. I mention Wise Guy in particular because it is extremely potent and must be diluted.

https://www.waxit.com.au/collections...upply-wise-guy

Actually, thinking about this further, try looking at Bilt Hamber Surfex. This is another potent alkaline cleaner that can be diluted up to 100:1 or used neat where required.

https://detailingshed.com.au/product...393cac5d&_ss=r

You can also get pressure washer attachments for this role -

https://www.amazon.com.au/Chavor-Pre...390234198&th=1

After that, re-access to see if further cleaning is required. You would then repeat the process, agitating with a brush before pressure washing.

bangm001 · 02-11-2022, 11:07 AM

Thanks again DFB. Its been hard work keeping the typhoon mint and all original i must say. I have owned it for around 15 years now and the car is 17 years old! This pic was actually taken just before i started polishing and waxing lol. Its all original paint too except for the front bar. I have been watching too many detailing videos and they clean the undersides of the cars they do amazingly, im not after a show car underbody, but just one that is relatively clean and free of road grime/oils etc. I also did a full wheel/brake clean after some of your inspirational pics too. Ill send you my massage lady's bill!! Thanks again, G

**DFB FGXR6** · 02-11-2022, 08:08 PM

I have never really been into SEMA until I noticed a lot of the top end brands are using the show as a launching pad for new generation products. Here are a few among many that have caught my eye today -

Carpro Reload 2.0 -

"Preserving the same ease of application, we managed to improve everything about Reload’s performance. In essence: more gloss, extended durability, improved chemical and environmental resistances. Originally formulated to maintain the protection and finish quality of CQUARTZ coatings, Reload has also proven itself as a standalone sealant, where it can offer up to 4 months of protection on daily drivers. Reload’s easy to use waterborne formula can be applied to all vehicle surfaces (even when damp), making it perfect for quickly topping up your vehicle’s protection and shine."

I have heard of issues with the application process and longevity of Reload in first generation form. To be honest, I have not experienced those issues, sure, you need to pay attention to the amount you use per panel, but the gloss and slickness is very good. Sounds like 2.0 Reload 2.0 will be worth looking into.

Carpro Fabric 2.0 -

"Traditional coatings make fabrics feel stiff and can clog the weave preventing breathability. We have developed nanoparticles small enough to attach to individual fibers, delivering superior performance characteristics without compromising the look, feel or comfort of the fabric and without clogging the fabric weave. In CQ Fabric 2.0, we’ve increased performance, while focusing heavily on the ease and comfort of application. We’ve minimised levels of VOCs and cut down drying times by a factor of 8! Fabric’s harsh solvent odors have also been removed. CQUARTZ Fabric 2.0 can be used on any material and performs great on cabrio soft tops. It is loved by detailers and sneakerheads alike!"

Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Tire Shine -

Rupes have unveiled a number of new products including a new 3" battery polisher, Rotary Waffle pads and new microfiber pads. These products caught my eye though -

Rupes Reveal -

These appear to be alcohol prep sprays.

Rupes Uno Advanced -

"A New Easy To Use Light Compound With Incredible Durable Protection Up To 12 Months!"

Like I need any new products, but a few of these are certainly on my hit list.

Bossxr8 · 03-11-2022, 12:35 PM

Ceramic tyre shine? Meguires are really reaching with that one.

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-11-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Ceramic tyre shine? Meguires are really reaching with that one.

Actually, Meguiar's are very late to the "ceramic" tyre dressing arena, but watch them sell millions of bottles.

Two that come to mind that have been on the market for a very long time now include Carpro Perl and Gyeon Q2 Tire.

https://carpro.global/catalog/perl/

https://gyeon.co/product/tire/

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-11-2022, 07:30 PM

This product from Meguiar's is one that seems to be far-fetched, more so than ceramic tyre shines. This is a classic case of Meguiar's throwing as many darts at a board as possible, eventually they will hit a bullseye.

Meguiar’s Hot Rims Black Wheel Cleaner

"We all know black wheels can be sensitive. Hot Rims Black Wheel Cleaner is specifically formulated to powerfully clean sensitive black wheel finishes including glossy, matte, satin, and black chrome!
This specialized formula has a foaming gel that sticks for deeper, more effective cleaning!"

CyberWasp · 03-11-2022, 09:03 PM

I want to see them do a video on easily cleaning the black wheels on the Mustang.
If it worked I would buy a tanker truck full of it.

**DFB FGXR6** · 03-11-2022, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberWasp

I want to see them do a video on easily cleaning the black wheels on the Mustang.
If it worked I would buy a tanker truck full of it.

I once used all of these to deal with those bloody wheels..........

No chemical alone can get them clean, you really have to put the effort into those wheels. They looked pretty amazing when freshly cleaned though.

**DFB FGXR6** · 04-11-2022, 07:24 PM

A few more Sema product introductions -

Carpro Release -

"Sometimes the pursuit of practicality and efficiency leads you to completely new discoveries. We’re happy to introduce CARPRO Release – our first wax-based nano-sealant dedicated to the protection of fresh ceramic coatings during their drying period. Release is designed primarily for busy detailing studios and impatient detailers, who want to avoid the pains of ceramic coating drying times. Every coating requires a period of time, when water contact, bugs, and bird bombs have to be avoided. CARPRO Release mitigates that by protecting the coating, allowing freshly coated cars to fully dry without the wait. Release couldn’t be any simpler to apply, and it can also be used as a standalone quick detailer!"

Carpro TarX Low Voc -

" We’re happy to introduce a new version of our proven tar remover: TarX – LowVOC. Motivated by the changing environmental regulations, we have reformulated TarX to meet them, while maintaining cleaning power. TarX LowVOC will be available exclusively in 4L jugs."

Carpro Hydro2 500ml Size -

"In response to your requests, we’re introducing the legendary HydrO2Lite in a handy 500ml version."

Carpro ClayLube -

"To avoid confusion with our Immortal PPF products, Immolube - our multi-purpose lubricant will change name to Claylube."

Carpro Darkside -

"Experience the power of the dark side! Here comes our NEW ready-to-use, highly concentrated tyre and rubber sealant!

CARPRO DarkSide’s 60% polydimethylsiloxane formula allows for a super quick and easy application with our dedicated tyre or microfibre applicators, leaving a beautiful satin shine look. It is equipped with all of our famous self-cleaning, hydrophobic properties, as well as UV and chemical resistance, prolonging the new look of your tyres. Every application will last up to 3 months!"

Meguiar's Ultimate Insane Shine Paint Glosser -

"Who wants more gloss, more depth, and more shine to their paint?! Everyone, right?!
Amplify gloss & color while concealing light swirls all with the convenience of a trigger spray!"

My notes -

Meguiar's can keep that stupidly named product, another example of too many products doing the exact same thing.

Carpro Release will definitely be on my hit list, perhaps even Darkside.