Covid 19 -

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Just read that in a few Melb hotspots, 928 people refused to be tested when asked to take it.

I mean seriously.............talk about having no regard for the health and safety of others in the Community.

Ridiculous.

Should be fines and names sent to the Feds for extra attention at tax time when this is over.

Big nuts to lock down suburbs, that seals the deal for us going down. We were not going into those exact postcodes but close enough.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Should be fines and names sent to the Feds for extra attention at tax time when this is over.

Big nuts to lock down suburbs, that seals the deal for us going down. We were not going into those exact postcodes but close enough.

Yeah I don't know what the answer is but to think so many won't take the test is truly baffling to me.

I'd certainly like to think harsh(er) measures will be implemented if Melb/Vics position does not improve rapidly.

[Franco Cozzo]

I work in one of those lockdown suburbs, they're talking about police pulling people over to ask where they're going and having booze bus style checkpoints on major roads in those suburbs.

Well that'll keep the commute interesting

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I work in one of those lockdown suburbs, they're talking about police pulling people over to ask where they're going and having booze bus style checkpoints on major roads in those suburbs.

Well that'll keep the commute interesting

The Lebonator will have to become more visually and sonically intimidating.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Yeah I don't know what the answer is but to think so many won't take the test is truly baffling to me.

They don't want to take the test because they know they have it.

But you do have the ocassional wacko who won't accept a blood transfusion if one of their kids is bleeding out on a hospital bed...

Originally Posted by MercuryT

I'd certainly like to think harsh(er) measures will be implemented if Melb/Vics position does not improve rapidly.

I reckon ...drain the swamp and build the wall...

Welcome to multiculturalism...you're standing in it...

take a deep breath Vics...face masks are overrated...ask any politician.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by zilo

They don't want to take the test because they know they have it.

But you do have the ocassional wacko who won't accept a blood transfusion if one of their kids is bleeding out on a hospital

Yeah maybe you are right.

I think fear of having it certainly impacts the decision but for mine it's unacceptable.

It's not about you (not you Zilo) as a person being responsible and accountable to the Community.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by zilo

They don't want to take the test because they know they have it.

But you do have the ocassional wacko who won't accept a blood transfusion if one of their kids is bleeding out on a hospital bed...





I reckon ...drain the swamp and build the wall...

Welcome to multiculturalism...you're standing in it...

take a deep breath Vics...face masks are overrated...ask any politician.

I think a few of them are freaked out by the thought of having a swap shoved up your nose, till it just about touches your brain. Wouldn't be pleasant, but it's only a few seconds of discomfort. Could be worse.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Last week I did an online consult with a doctor via an app. I had my usual throat infection I get at exactly the same time each year, however because I also had a sore throat I figured I do the online thing as I'm sure no doctor would want to see me seeing as you need to warn them if you have symptoms.

So, got told to get a test, received the request paperwork vie email in the app. Funnily enough the closest place was a 'drive through' testing which isn't all that funny till you find out I called the doctor while my car was up on a hoist getting work done on it.

So I walked to the place, got the test on my feet and that was it. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting. Uncomfortable, yes but not the way some people are making out.

To hear that other 'drive through' testing places are turning away walk in's is laughable...the interaction and distancing is the same sitting down or standing up.

Results in 1.5 days. All clear. Why you wouldn't do the test just for piece of mind is beyond me...

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Results in 1.5 days. All clear. Why you wouldn't do the test just for piece of mind is beyond me...

I guess the fact is you can get tested on a Monday...be exposed on a Tuesday...be sick in a week...then say...

"All good I've been tested..."


The only safe option is to have a nose jab every week?

I am of the notion that testing is for community benefit not for the individual benefit or comfort....


Queuing up for hours? Nahhhhh

[Tickford.]

What about contractors, tradies, workers from non-lockdown areas going into lockdown areas for work purposes, and potentially taking the virus with them into the non-lockdown areas? Potentially spreading it further?


Funny when you look at the map of the affected zones. Anyone surprised?? These are the areas of Melbourne that house the biggest population of dimwits in Victoria.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

What about contractors, tradies, workers from non-lockdown areas going into lockdown areas for work purposes, and potentially taking the virus with them into the non-lockdown areas? Potentially spreading it further?


Funny when you look at the map of the affected zones. Anyone surprised?? These are the areas of Melbourne that house the biggest population of dimwits in Victoria.

When you've got 20% of the countries population in one city you're bound to have a larger population of mongs just on numbers. We're also the most multicultural city in the nation so we've got large groups of various migrants.

There's more morons in Melbourne and Sydney in comparison to other capital cities because there's much more people

I don't particularly care about getting COVID-19, I'm in the age group where I could probably shrug it off, I don't want to pass it onto someone vulnerable is my only concern. We've got a few oldies at work who've been smoking since Jesus was playing full back for Jerusalem it'd probably ice.

There's also nothing stopping the people who live in those 'lockdown' suburbs heading out of the zone and going elsewhere on their weekends to other Melbourne suburbs outside of it where you won't be hassled by police.

Hell, we can still go to Sydney of we want a weekend away

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

What about contractors, tradies, workers from non-lockdown areas going into lockdown areas for work purposes, and potentially taking the virus with them into the non-lockdown areas? Potentially spreading it further?


Funny when you look at the map of the affected zones. Anyone surprised?? These are the areas of Melbourne that house the biggest population of dimwits in Victoria.

Highway patrol in Vic should do random swabs on the side of the busy freeways in emergency stopping lanes.

Win, win,win

[Fed]

Inbound international flights to Melbourne are being diverted because Melbourne has failed in the quarantine stakes.
At this stage they won't say where the flights are being diverted to, I guess they're looking for a place that is capable of locking someone up. Gotta be a joke right?

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Fed

Inbound international flights to Melbourne are being diverted because Melbourne has failed in the quarantine stakes.
At this stage they won't say where the flights are being diverted to, I guess they're looking for a place that is capable of locking someone up. Gotta be a joke right?

Inbound international flights have not ceased yet.

https://www.flightradar24.com/CES737/24d13465 (only available for the next 25 min or so)

[russellw]

69 new cases for Australia (64 in Victoria) and no deaths so CMR drops to 1.327% and active cases rise to 724 (9.2%).

No new cases and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.440% and active cases stay at 22.

The UK had 689 new cases and 125 deaths so the CMR is up to 13.987%.

Just under 45k new cases in the USA yesterday and 921 deaths sees CMR down to 4.824% and active cases down to 53.5% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Africa passes 400k cases and 10k deaths

El Salvador (265), Uzbekistan (281), Algeria (336), Israel (803) and Panama (1,099) recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[CoupeKing]

[HIPO]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Disgusting people! Wont have to worry about them for much longer!...……..

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by HIPO

Disgusting people! Wont have to worry about them for much longer!...……..

Pandemic ends, November 4th.

PAIN.

[AlanD]

Hi,

Lies, Damn lies and statistics!!

Anders Tegnell is probably a good epidemiologist, but if he is resoponsible for that bar chart above then his statistical knowledge could do with some work.

Based on some rough and ready calculations the following:

China 2.6 deaths per million of population.
Malaysia 3.8 deaths per million of population
Australia 4.2 deaths per million of population
New Zealand 5.5 deaths per million of population
Singapore 6.5 deaths per million of population
Indonesia 14.4 deaths per million of population
Germany 112 deaths per million of population
Canada 227 deaths per million of population.

SFAIK all these countries had some form of lockdown and if you construct a bar chart such as is shown in Cav's post then you might conclude that NOT locking down is the worst thing you can do.

The message is- be very careful about how you interpret raw data - and in the case of Covid 19 there are a multitude of factors that affect the deaths per million of population - but on balance I will prefer lockdown in the face of a "sneaky" adversary that multiplies by means of transmission person to person by proximity to them for periods measured in tens of minutes, especially in poorly ventilated areas.

Cheers

[russellw]

Originally Posted by AlanD

Hi,

Based on some rough and ready calculations the following:

China 2.6 deaths per million of population.
Malaysia 3.8 deaths per million of population
Australia 4.2 deaths per million of population
New Zealand 5.5 deaths per million of population
Singapore 6.5 deaths per million of population
Indonesia 14.4 deaths per million of population
Germany 112 deaths per million of population
Canada 227 deaths per million of population.

I've been tracking the mortalities per 100k of total population so here is the hard data (with a few extras added). The ones in RED either didn't lock down or have had trouble maintaining them.

China 0.322 (with a big question mark over the accuracy of the numbers)
Malaysia 0.374
Australia 0.408
Singapore 0.444
NZ 0.456
Indonesia 1.073
India 1.293
Greece 1.842
Argentina 2.989
Global Average 6.657
Germany 10.815
Armenia 15.288
Mexico 21.538 (only had 3 weeks of full lockdown)
Canada 22.826
Ecuador 25.937 (the real number of deaths is estimated to be much higher than the official figures)
Brazil 28.563
Peru 29.904
Chile 30.095
Ireland 35.198 (they did go into partial lockdown but delayed a fuller one)
Netherlands 35.676USA 39.505
France 45.748
Italy 57.537 (locked down but way too late)
United Kingdom 64.676 (also too late to the party frankly)
Belgium 84.162

Cheers
Russ

[XR Martin]

US had 120k more deaths from March to May this year than the same time last year.

Less than 100k were officially attributed to covid.

[MercuryT]

Tassie still looking good for now re' borders opening. (key point......for now)

I doubt many big island people would travel here at this time of year anyway (other than DarkMofo which obviously was cancelled) but it's actually a good time.

Usually clear days, just cold yeah. (although Vic not much warmer and colder some days). Summer is warmer but not necessarily a better time to visit.

Hope some Ford guys (and girls of course) can fit in a trip. 3 or 4 nights is all you need really to do see preferred places, but stay relaxed on Holiday.

If want any advice (I'm a boring local of 30 plus years) simply PM me and I'll help as much as I can.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by MercuryT

Tassie still looking good for now re' borders opening. (key point......for now)

I doubt many big island people would travel here at this time of year anyway (other than DarkMofo which obviously was cancelled) but it's actually a good time.

Usually clear days, just cold yeah. (although Vic not much warmer and colder some days). Summer is warmer but not necessarily a better time to visit.

Hope some Ford guys (and girls of course) can fit in a trip. 3 or 4 nights is all you need really to do see preferred places, but stay relaxed on Holiday.

If want any advice (I'm a boring local of 30 plus years) simply PM me and I'll help as much as I can.

mate...WTF are you doing?

Please ignore him folks, Tasssie is a sheethole...freezing all year round. You will die from all the venomous snakes and other associated poisonous creatures.

Did i mention it is freezing and so very expensive..

Most people get an itchy rash in their groin after drinking the water..

Best to go Qld or uluru or further...stay away from tassie folks...please?

[Tassie f100]

Originally Posted by zilo

mate...WTF are you doing?

Please ignore him folks, Tasssie is a sheethole...freezing all year round. You will die from all the venomous snakes and other associated poisonous creatures.

Did i mention it is freezing and so very expensive..

Most people get an itchy rash in their groin after drinking the water..

Best to go Qld or uluru or further...stay away from tassie folks...please?

Yeah Zilo,I think the further you go from Tassie the better it will be for the rest of us.

[Citroënbender]

I’m honestly confused now about who can go where and do what, just in Australia!

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by zilo

mate...WTF are you doing?

Please ignore him folks, Tasssie is a sheethole...freezing all year round......

Best to go Qld or uluru or further...stay away from tassie folks...please?

Sorry mate! I forgot and will be sure to remember to pass on how crap Tassie is in future

[PhilT2]

China rolling out their vaccine this week; plan is to vaccinate a couple of million military first.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ary-use-china/

Nothing personal but I might just wait for something tested locally.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

China rolling out their vaccine this week; plan is to vaccinate a couple of million military first.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...ary-use-china/

Nothing personal but I might just wait for something tested locally.

I wonder if its like the UK and their Porton Down lab.

We're looking for volunteers to test our new common cold vaccine!

It was 1953, and the 20-year-old had been tempted by an advert promising volunteers for tests at the government’s secretive chemical laboratory 15 shillings and an assurance no harm would come to them.

LAC Maddison was planning to use the small fee to buy an engagement ring for his girlfriend, Mary Pyle. An hour later he died in agony.

Drops of the nerve agent Sarin had been dripped onto his arm through two layers of cloth but had absorbed through his skin much faster than the scientists had expected.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...th-serviceman/

[PhilT2]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I wonder if its like the UK and their Porton Down lab.

Govts of the past have never hesitated to use people as lab rats. The Tuskagee airmen experiment is a good example and there are plenty of records of soldiers standing near nuclear blasts.

Vaccines are no different from any other medical treatment. There have been mistakes and there will be again no matter how careful we are. But a thousand kids a day used to get polio in India and that doesn't happen any more thanks to Bill Gates and the WHO. The conspiracy nutters can't take away the fact that we now live longer healthier lives.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by PhilT2

Govts of the past have never hesitated to use people as lab rats. The Tuskagee airmen experiment is a good example and there are plenty of records of soldiers standing near nuclear blasts.

Vaccines are no different from any other medical treatment. There have been mistakes and there will be again no matter how careful we are. But a thousand kids a day used to get polio in India and that doesn't happen any more thanks to Bill Gates and the WHO. The conspiracy nutters can't take away the fact that we now live longer healthier lives.

Good post, but Tuskegee airmen = Lab rats ?