Copenhagen summit dec '09, scam.

[Hillbilly F Truck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMe5dOgbu40

[Hillbilly F Truck]

The not so hidden agenda for global governance.

[ltd]

Frightening. Just frightening.

[Keepleft]

Dr Dennis Jensen LIB WA at WHIRLPOOL discussing all this.


http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum....cfm?t=1313200

[Walt Kowalski]

This should be the issue of the century.

Our freedom lost on the con of Climate Change and dodgy "science"

We get an Extra Tax System - er sorry I mean Emissions Trading Scheme - so that companies in Australia shut down under the burden of the extra taxes, people lose their jobs and their products then get made in India and China anyway and they have zero pollution controls so that even if their "science" was correct the scheme would fail.

Its Global Governance that Left wing politicians want and they will get it with this agreement if KRudd & Barrack Hussein Obama sign it.

Tell your local parliamentarian that you do not want the ETS or the Copenhagen agreement.

You owe it to yourself and your family.

And if you think he's on the payroll of some polluter save your time. I don't believe it

[Work Horse]

Lord Christopher Monckton will be first against the wall come the revolution.

Then raise the scarlet standard high
Beneath its folds we'll live and die
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer
We'll keep the red flag flying here

Our time is near comrades :evil3:

[Polyal]

Recently went to a ETS presentation and my god what a load of BS, the system will never work and it gets more complicated by the day.

There are so many loop holes and "ways out" for the bigger companies its ridiculous. Its the small and middle sizes that are going to get hit the hardest, the ones that cant afford it.

[Franco Cozzo]

Makes the "2012" conspiracy sound true about how they reckon the "world will end as we know it", not neccesarily we'll all die, but world government perhaps?

Who knows? Then again, Y2K and all that crap.

[XRQTR]

Anyone with half a brain can see that the ETS is just a quick fix for the GFC.

Governments worldwide need to prop up empty or emptying coffers so what better way than to introduce a new tax and what better way to get the "stupid" public majority to agree than to say it's to help the environment and that everyone else is doing it so we're just doing our bit.

A recent survey actually put the climate change issue in third place of peoples concerns for the immediate future.

[rodderz]

Perhaps a way of governments to make the extra money should electric motors/cars be more popular and petrol/oil use be scarce in years to come?

[XRQTR]

Don't worry they'll soon figure out how to tax that as well :

[Keepleft]

With reference to Swingcat73 @ Whirlpool's Dr Dennis Jensen's climate change topic, held at its "In The News" section.

The scheme for the new institutional arrangement under the Convention will be based on three
basic pillars: government; facilitative mechanism; and financial mechanism, and the basic organization
of which will include the following:

(a) The government will be ruled by the COP with the support of a new subsidiary body on
adaptation, and of an Executive Board responsible for the management of the new funds
and the related facilitative processes and bodies. The current Convention secretariat will
operate as such, as appropriate.

(b) The Convention’s financial mechanism will include a multilateral climate change fund
including five windows: (a) an Adaptation window, (b) a Compensation window, to
address loss and damage from climate change impacts, including insurance,
rehabilitation and compensatory components, © a Technology window; (d) a Mitigation
window; and (e) a REDD window, to support a multi-phases process for positive forest
incentives relating to REDD actions.

© The Convention’s facilitative mechanism will include: (a) work programmes for
adaptation and mitigation; (b) a long-term REDD process; © a short-term technology
action plan; (d) an expert group on adaptation established by the subsidiary body on
adaptation, and expert groups on mitigation, technologies and on monitoring, reporting
and verification; and (e) an international registry for the monitoring, reporting and
verification of compliance of emission reduction commitments, and the transfer of
technical and financial resources from developed countries to developing countries. The
secretariat will provide technical and administrative support, including a new centre for
information exchange.

From; the UN document dated 15 September 2009, "Framework Convention on Climate Change", in Pdf:-
http://www.globalclimatescam.com/doc...hagen-2009.pdf

Above Pdf's source UN distribution website,> this Convention in assorted languages:-
http://unfccc.int/documentation/docu...iref=600005444


Dr Jensen's website, contains additional study links:-
http://www.dennisjensen.com.au/

[Hillbilly F Truck]

Their use of fear to help push this agenda is criminal,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62gsctP2gc


Another good source of information,
http://jimball.com.au/Warming.htm

It's very telling that the very nature of this new massive money spinner of an industry (carbon trading), is reliant on the very thing it claims to be trying to reduce. Co2 is not a pollutant and nor can we as humans change climate, which has been happening for billions of years.

[XRQTR]

The one thing that is yet to be explained, or have I missed it somewhere, is just how this whole scam I mean scheme will actually aide in reducing carbon, other than the fact that it will close many small to medium businesses which may or may not be currently adding to pollution.

[Falcon Coupe]

One would think an issue this big would require a referendum.

[Romulus]

The lack of hits on this thread is astounding.

[Yellow_Festiva]

2GB Sydney has been touting the 'Climate Change' fraud for years. Alan Jones interviewed Lord Monckton last week and what he said is very worrying.

But what can we do? Our democratically elected leaders are making our decisions. The ball is rolling way to fast now... and our PM, who wants to save the world and please everyone is going with the flow and helping by paddling harder...

[XRQTR]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

One would think an issue this big would require a referendum.

HAHAHAHA

Too funny, could you imagine a referendum on whether or not the government should implement a new tax?? Regardless of what the excuse is to have it.

What was so worrying about what was said on the Alan Jones program??

[mickyyyy]

Im totally against 1 world government but reduce climate change yes im all for it and it dosent need 1 government to do this plain and simple.

Where all human and can work together and not use cover ups like this to gain even further control.

Another thing u guys should look at is this "House of Numbers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_N4z...om=PL&index=19

[XRQTR]

mickyyyy that just goes to show how reliant we are on the scientific community being honest and upfront with us all.

How many people actually question how much of what scientists say is true and how much is said simply to increase or gain government funding??

My accountant last week asked if I had anything that we could get government funding on, I said maybe but not on paper, he said all we needed is to show some data and the government would pretty much throw cash at us. This is what many scientists do in order to make a living, throw a theory out there, show some rlevant data and the government will want further answers and is willing in most cases to pay for it.

How many so called "experts" have come out in the last few years??

Where were they before anyone actually raised the issue??

How many of them are funded, to the tune of millions in some cases by governments wanting answers??

These are the questions that we really need to be asking, not how can we stop it but how can we believe anything we're being told by people who are essentially out to make a few bucks.

I'd like to see some of these scientists show some kind of definitive proof, the "Hole in the Ozone" well that's always been there, how quickly people forget about NASA and having to reschedule launches because the "Window in the ozone" was missed.

Just like when we were told that potatoes and eggs and so many other things were killing us, then a few years later they were actually good for us, scientists flip to which ever side is paying them. Sceptics just keep them on their toes.

Asfor the HIV/AIDS issue well I'm sure yet again that the drug companies have had a large hand in this campaign as well, who else but them actually beneifits when a large scale epidemic occurs. I was watching a doco on SBS last night about the porn industry and one actor said that AIDS testing was great, well for work, you show up with your certificate to say your clean but then what happens between that test and the next well that's anyones guess.

Also, HIV/AIDS can lay dormant for many years and not get picked up during screening giving a false positive, that's why periodic examinations are crucial but they don't say it that way when you go for a check up, it's just "a good thing to keep on top of".

Climate Change went from Global warming because they can't decide whether we're heating up or cooling down, neither really it's just the Earths own cycles of life.

Did you know that the Earth spins on its axis 180 degrees so that North becomes South and vice versa, it's been proven by rocks that have North polarity on one then South polarity ont he one right next to it. Can't remember th name of the place but learnt it in Geology when I studied Civ Eng many years ago, I'm sure someone else has heard of this phenomenon.

It's theorised that this is when the ICE AGE occured, as the age of the rocks is pretty close to when the world froze over, and this was the actual cause of the Ice Age.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by XRQTR

What was so worrying about what was said on the Alan Jones program??

Hear it for yourself:

http://www.2gb.com.au/index.php?opti...205&Itemid=134

Scroll down below the main picture to where the text is and click on the pod cast link titled.

"Is the Copenhagen treaty about creating a world government?"

[ltd]

Hopefully the US senate will knock it on the head.
I'm all for helping developing nations but not despot dictatorships which will siphon the money to buy more arms.
This smacks of communism and marxism, and should be killed asap. Our elected officials should also be tried for treason.

[mickyyyy]

Man this is heavy duty stuff and this simply cannot happen plain and simple. This needs to be spread over all other forums people.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by XRQTR

HAHAHAHA

Too funny, could you imagine a referendum on whether or not the government should implement a new tax?? Regardless of what the excuse is to have it.

What was so worrying about what was said on the Alan Jones program??

Austrailans voted for the Rudd Government, not a World Government, hence they have no right to sign on our behalf.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Austrailans voted for the Rudd Government, not a World Government, hence they have no right to sign on our behalf.

And that ladies and gentlemen is the whole crux of the issue.
Brilliant post Falcon Coupe.

[GK]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Austrailans voted for the Rudd Government, not a World Government, hence they have no right to sign on our behalf.

Originally Posted by ltd

Brilliant post Falcon Coupe.

Beat me to it. Awesome post Falcon Coupe!

I would also add that Australians had had enough of the Liberals and wanted someone else to have a go at running the country. Rudd seems to be among those desperate to rule the world.

GK

[Work Horse]

I heard aliens are behind the Copenhagen summit, part of their plan for world domination.

Apparently Rudd IS an alien, explains a lot really:

You heard it hear first :evil3:

[TS50]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Austrailans voted for the Rudd Government, not a World Government, hence they have no right to sign on our behalf.

But K Rudd wants to be king of the world, not Prime mister of Australia

This scheme, is actually more scarey that climate change itself
If it is implimented, that will be the beginning of the end
Its all about politicans "feeling good" that they have done something good during their term, plus the extra tax of course

I do not believe the average person realises how much impact it will have on them finacially
For a start power bills up by 25%
comapnies (such as cement manuafactures) going out of buisness because their process causes so much Carbon (however it wont affect the chinesse companies producing these product, so there is more australian jobs gone, more chinesse jobs made

Scariest thing to happen to us in a lot of years, yet not many people are paying attention

[Romulus]

I think one of the main problems we have in Australia is our lack of interest in politics. Not enough people care to do something or speak up about it. Whinging after the horse has bolted is too late. The video from Lord Monckton is very interesting indeed.

[TS50]

Originally Posted by TVS Super Pursuit

I think one of the main problems we have in Australia is our lack of interest in politics. Not enough people care to do something or speak up about it. Whinging after the horse has bolted is too late. The video from Lord Monckton is very interesting indeed.

I agree
and election time is more about a populaturly contest than a contest who will be the best canidate to do the right thing for us