:( help!!!! yellow sticker

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 01:09 PM

hey guys can anyone help me with my yellow sticker in regards to current W.A. laws, below are a few pics so you can see if you can find anything illegal,

looks like first i have to machine down my intake maniflod and fit a drop down filter, then find another xf bonnet to put on, if this still wont fit underbonnet then i might have to fit a small scoop.
question 1 = am i allowed to have my air filter inside the scoop or does it have to sit below?
2 = does this bonnet have to be a matching colour?
3= is this steering wheel alowed?
4= am i allowed push button start (its in the middle of the dash) runs off the imobiliser and the other switched are for fans and fuel pump.
5= reckon im allowed this deep alloy sump on my gearbox?
6= how the bloody hell can i make this 393 clevo quiet and also pass on emissions? cats maybe?
7= car is standard ride height for now but suspension is very stiff due to sway bars and aftermarket shocks, springs
8= flywheel is exposed

i have changed the 18s to 15's and the new exhaust will exit out the rear, also am i allowed those seats? any info would be a great help, i also need to run a heater system :(
you can find many more photos of my car in my project link which should be below

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 01:13 PM

oh before you say so, i have filters on those rocker covers and the other runs into the back of the carb

Bill_R · 12-03-2007, 01:49 PM

6. Cats mainly reduce NOx emssions. I dont' think you would be required to meet more current standards with NOx.
How many mufflers did the car come with? I can't quote WA but in NSW there is a provision in the regs that you can't fit a system with less "noise control devices" than was original on the car. So, if the car had 2 mufflers and a resonator the new system is "supposed" to have the same or it is considered defective. I say "supposed" because they usually just test noise levels and apply that.

Did you actually get a Yellow? If so, what did it say?

Bermo · 12-03-2007, 01:55 PM

Easy way to get around the noise problem, this is what I had to do to mine for an EPA defect.

Where your extractors bolt to the exhaust put a piece for sheet metal in there with some holes drilled through, it will resrict flow alot, but as long as you are not rev'ing it you will be fine.

Other option is instead of sheet metal use a gasket type of material, once you past the test just give the engine a few big revs and it will blow the gasket out the exhaust.

Bermo · 12-03-2007, 02:00 PM

Oh and also make sure the neutral park switch works.

5.0failane · 12-03-2007, 02:15 PM

Alot of the thing you mention I am sure u can get permits for like the steering wheel etc that way if you get pulled over it is all documented that its legal. As for the bonnet, my brothers xf passed the pits with a scoop no probblem. If you take it down the worst they can do is give you a list of what has to be done and tell you to go and fix it. As far as I am aware once they give you a list to fix all you have to do is what is on the list and take it back, they cant then find more things. I think WA might be one of the easiest places to do it I've had a few very average or highly modified cars pass the pits.

The G6ET Spot · 12-03-2007, 02:22 PM

After going through all this myself a few years ago,I know what it is like.

1. As far as cats on your exhaust goes,it all depends on what year model the XF is. If it is a 1985 model there is no need for cats as the car was a leaded model and never came out with them, after that,sorry but cats will be required.

2. Steering wheel looks a bit on the small side,

3. Doesn't matter what colour he bonnet is,saw your other thread and think you should put a bulge on the bonnet looked good in the photochop,

4. You will need to put a belhousing cover on to cover flywheel.

5. Button start will be OK

JAYBA · 12-03-2007, 02:34 PM

hey taipan sorry to hear about the bad news

as mentioned above that sheet mEtal with small hole will work well

you will probably need to ditch that carb and get one that has
the pollution gear on it as well as a canister

not completely positive but i think you will need
a bonnet without a hole in it

i passed my xe a couple of years ago with a very small bali momo wheel

not sure how low your car is but those trolley jacks they use at the front of your car are pretty big and if your front spoiler gets in the way
they more than likely will say its too low

was you xf 1985 1986 or 1987

as this will depend on the pollution gear you will need and whether your vehicle came out unleaded

xwgasaxe · 12-03-2007, 04:02 PM

Not really on topic but you should have your fuel pressure regulator mounted ahead of the carby not behind, So that Forces due to acceleration are compensated for.

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 04:35 PM

thankyou all very much, i have taken all of this into acount, my car is the 1985 model so no cats will be nessicary, i was thinking of using them only if the exhaust emisions were exessive, because of the horsepower (approx 600).

is there anyway i can hurt my engine by fitting plates on the exhaust and putting on a smaller carby with emmsions crap? also what is the deal with the carbon canister?

Stefan · 12-03-2007, 04:43 PM

There is no way that style of engine will ever pass an EPA test in a 1985 model car....you need to buy a pre 1973 car if your going to build that type of engine.

Good luck

Stefan

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

There is no way that style of engine will ever pass an EPA test in a 1985 model car....you need to buy a pre 1973 car if your going to build that type of engine.

Good luck

Stefan

why not? :( 600hp aint much

atec77 · 12-03-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

hey guys can anyone help me with my yellow sticker in regards to current W.A. laws, below are a few pics so you can see if you can find anything illegal,

looks like first i have to machine down my intake maniflod and fit a drop down filter, then find another xf bonnet to put on, if this still wont fit underbonnet then i might have to fit a small scoop.
question 1 = am i allowed to have my air filter inside the scoop or does it have to sit below?
2 = does this bonnet have to be a matching colour?
3= is this steering wheel alowed?
4= am i allowed push button start (its in the middle of the dash) runs off the imobiliser and the other switched are for fans and fuel pump.
5= reckon im allowed this deep alloy sump on my gearbox?
6= how the bloody hell can i make this 393 clevo quiet and also pass on emissions? cats maybe?
7= car is standard ride height for now but suspension is very stiff due to sway bars and aftermarket shocks, springs
8= flywheel is exposed

i have changed the 18s to 15's and the new exhaust will exit out the rear, also am i allowed those seats? any info would be a great help, i also need to run a heater system :(
you can find many more photos of my car in my project link which should be below

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if you cant fit a suitable carb filter then you either need to bulge the bonnet with in the rules and get one fitted or change the carb and stand off until you can , there will be specifics for your state about how high the bulge can be
any emmission gear the car came with on petrol needs to be fitted normally or if its a later motor then that emission gear . The is specific diameters about steering wheels , in Qld its about 18" but you need to check ,fly wheel must be covered by a suitable approved plate ( make one out of at least .8 mm metal) and you need at least 100mm or the minimum in your state under the car , exhaust should exit a determined distance behind the last opening windows and should be below an approved DB reading ( check your state main roads site for this stuff) I doubt if you need and emmissions test if the car is 1985 or earlier ? so what year is it ?
if your in NSW I have a good engineer in New castle if you want to use him .
if you are determined to run petrol and not gas then cats will clean it up but will also poisen VERY quiclky , starting can be any method as long as the ignotion os suitable cut and you might check as on some models you need an imobiliser of sorts , did you think about lpg ? would make it all much easier and good luck .

XFshep · 12-03-2007, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5.0failane

Alot of the thing you mention I am sure u can get permits for like the steering wheel etc that way if you get pulled over it is all documented that its legal. As for the bonnet, my brothers xf passed the pits with a scoop no probblem. If you take it down the worst they can do is give you a list of what has to be done and tell you to go and fix it. As far as I am aware once they give you a list to fix all you have to do is what is on the list and take it back, they cant then find more things. I think WA might be one of the easiest places to do it I've had a few very average or highly modified cars pass the pits.

yeah weve definitely got it the easiest out of the rest of the states, my personal favourite is how unless you get defected your car never has to see the pits.

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 05:21 PM

nah not keen on lpg as its too expensive, and believe it or not the car is ok on fuel consumption, if the pits dosnt do gas testing and i just need a form then thats an easy fix, will a VH brockie scoop be ok?

Jason[98.EL] · 12-03-2007, 05:32 PM

i didnt think xf's came out with a V8

i looked into changing my old xf over to v8 and i was told due to the fact that the xf didnt have a v8 from factory i couldnt put an 8 into it

if this is wrong ill get angry i loved that car

jason

muppet · 12-03-2007, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan

There is no way that style of engine will ever pass an EPA test in a 1985 model car....you need to buy a pre 1973 car if your going to build that type of engine.

Good luck

Stefan

I'm with you on this one . I was under the impression that the only way to rego an XF with a V8 in it was to run the thing on LPG . I had enough trouble with my 76 falcon , I had to fit the carbon canister . I think the scoop for the bonnet is going to be the least of you're worries .

mustang70 · 12-03-2007, 05:37 PM

sorry not read all the responses but -
bonnet color, doesnt matter,
steering wheel-i've had mine over pits twice with very similar small chrome wheel,
emmisions-never had emmissions tested or heard of it in WA

WA are very relaxed, i thought mine would be too loud, they didnt say a wordrun it over and see how it goes.
at east perth when i took mine they were mostly concerned with -everything working,steering/suspension good, and how close my exhaust was to brake/fuel lines and tank. had to wrap some of that heat shield stuff around one pipe that came too close to the exhaust,
i'd be more worried about how long you gotta wait in line..
regarding emmisions though i've only ever run older cars over

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heljas

i didnt think xf's came out with a V8

i looked into changing my old xf over to v8 and i was told due to the fact that the xf didnt have a v8 from factory i couldnt put an 8 into it

if this is wrong ill get angry i loved that car

jason

its very do-able in w.a, heaps of people have done it ya just need certs...like i used to have

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustang70

sorry not read all the responses but -
bonnet color, doesnt matter,
steering wheel-i've had mine over pits twice with very similar small chrome wheel,
emmisions-never had emmissions tested or heard of it in WA

WA are very relaxed, i thought mine would be too loud, they didnt say a wordrun it over and see how it goes.
at east perth when i took mine they were mostly concerned with -everything working,steering/suspension good, and how close my exhaust was to brake/fuel lines and tank. had to wrap some of that heat sheild stuff around one pipe that came too close to the exhaust,
i'd be more worried about how long you gotta wait in line..
regarding emmisions though i've only ever run older cars over

so the best place to go would be the government ones?

trick_xd · 12-03-2007, 06:04 PM

No help to you at all But its still a nice car ..
and for those of you in Victoria you would have no chance of geting a road worthy on it ... not even if it was on gas
but you are in a state with diffrent rules so good luck with it all

**Falcon Coupe** · 12-03-2007, 06:08 PM

The only way out is to put stock engine back in, ADR27A is a killer, that's why most clevo boys drive pre 74' cars.
Anything built later needs straight gas or take a chance of getting busted.
If it were me i would look around for a pre 74 or earlier cortina/falcon do drop it all in.

brenx · 12-03-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

1 = am i allowed to have my air filter inside the scoop or does it have to sit below?

it can sit anywhere as long as it's covered by the bonnet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

2 = does this bonnet have to be a matching colour?

Nope

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

3= is this steering wheel alowed?

Nope. The steering wheel has to be like the factory one padded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

4= am i allowed push button start (its in the middle of the dash) runs off the imobiliser and the other switched are for fans and fuel pump.

Yes as long as you can't use the push button while the ignition is off (ie car won't turn over).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

5= reckon im allowed this deep alloy sump on my gearbox?

Yes, perfectly legal as long as it meets minimum ground clearance requirements.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

6= how the bloody hell can i make this 393 clevo quiet and also pass on emissions? cats maybe?

No less than 4 mufflers. Depends which regs you have to comply to 96 or 90db?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

7= car is standard ride height for now but suspension is very stiff due to sway bars and aftermarket shocks, springs

Good if it's legal leave it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiapan

8= flywheel is exposed

Get yourself an inspection plate of make one from 1mm sheet metal.

Really blows chunks don't it. I've been there :( ADR rules will whoop you :(

nugget378 · 12-03-2007, 06:21 PM

Bad luck mate,there are ways around this,just keep your eyes open and your ear to the ground ;)

atec77 · 12-03-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppet

I'm with you on this one . I was under the impression that the only way to rego an XF with a V8 in it was to run the thing on LPG . I had enough trouble with my 76 falcon , I had to fit the carbon canister . I think the scoop for the bonnet is going to be the least of you're worries .

I rang an engineer , it has to be on gas and have disks all round , now to the poster I am in brisbane , I can source gas gear for you if you want or go buy a used unit and fit it , once its through run on what ever fuel you want but he says lpg will make more gogo if you know what to do and recurve the dizzy .

jaydee · 12-03-2007, 07:08 PM

You can ring DPI licensing and get an idea of whats permitted and how to get permits.
U can also take it over the pits (waiting 5 hours) as is and they will tell U exactly what U can and can't have, give U an extension on the work order and go off and change what needs to be done.
At the end of the day,looking at your monster motor, you have to decide do you want a drag car or a street car, because U know your gonna get stopped all the time with all that fruit sticking out the bonnet.
good luck.

xt3valve · 12-03-2007, 07:22 PM

I herd that you can have your air filter sticking out of the bonnet no more than 50mm. Anything over that and you require a scoop and then they have a hole lotta laws regarding the scoop.

mustang70 · 12-03-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

The only way out is to put stock engine back in, ADR27A is a killer, that's why most clevo boys drive pre 74' cars.
Anything built later needs straight gas or take a chance of getting busted.
If it were me i would look around for a pre 74 or earlier cortina/falcon do drop it all in.

or get yourself some american steel,nice big printing on the bottom on my licence says IMPORTED VEHICLE-NOT REQUIRED TO MEET ADR'S

kinda a good point about deciding what you want,street or drag,unless you get it over the pits and leave it as it was when it ran over pits.
i've found the guys at licencing to be really helpful and decent though

Tiapan · 12-03-2007, 09:06 PM

bugger...might have to chuck in a stocker to go over the pits :( how will they know its not stock? only carb, ignition and manifold...oh and shiny heads but i didnt think they were ILLEGAL!

peedee · 12-03-2007, 09:23 PM

Lucky your not in NSW had problems getting one regoed here in 1979, and it was a 1966 dodge, had a fist full of engineers reports, turn up at pits get told "DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS DONT WANT TO KNOW GET LOST." after three months of haggling and appeals to minister of transport, finally got regoed only to be pulled up every few miles by the cops to try to defect it, had to carry engineers certs with me all the time, as well as custom built vehicle printed on bottom of rego papers. only had tubs to fit 265 tyresin back and 235 in front, 4 wheel discs, lake pipes 3.5 inch diameter, and was a 440 magnum with twin turbo's (first v8 done by phil ward)and custom airbrush paint