The Car you really hate

[aussiblue]

Getz. Ugly and always seemed to be involved in accidents and driven by distracted drivers.

[MercuryT]

I actually think the "new" Commodore also applies.

Just a completely ridiculous marketing decision to think it would work.

Sorry: just read been discussed how such a bad decision.

[Vekgib]

Geez. Hate ? That's a big emotion right there. And I reckon I'd find it impossible to direct so much emotion at a certain car, car company, or certain type of driver. I'm probably more along the lines of "Live and let live". There are cars that I see that I couldn't imagine myself driving, but hate ? Nah. Each car is a person's choice for transport, and good luck to them.

[gooseneck]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Great Walls. Just an insult to cars and carbuyers everywhere.

Agreed stuff China and not just because of the Chinese but because they think we will buy their poorly manufactured cars.

Avalon - just the supreme example of everything wrong with Toyota.

https://youtu.be/Wx9CGv3Ktlk

Gotta love your car getting advertised by a drag queen touching himself. That must really help the second hand market value and you know what it does they still hold their value. That tells you a bit about the delusional mindspace that Toyota owners are in.

Great car well engineered instruments inside (aside from the fact the dash digs into your knees and theres less leg room than literally any other car including a Hyundai Excel) but you know what? No more reliable than a Falcon if anything more prone to blowing head gaskets than a Falcon is and its a huge job each time.

The 1MZ-FE is touted in the US as one of the best engineered engines ever but over here they are unreliable explosive engines on wheels. At least thats my experience and my mechanics experience. Thing blows a plume of smoke every time I start it up.

Originally Posted by xa302

Toyota Lexcen (Commodore)

I saw one of them at the 7-11 and it had a young bloke in it as he waited for his friends and he had a sort of Shining thing going on was looking at me all aggressive as I walked past the car.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and say thats a rare car (I was curious about it) but he knew what he'd bought. I'm sure his friends teased him about it.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by gooseneck

Gotta love your car getting advertised by a drag queen touching himself. That must really help the second hand market value and you know what it does they still hold their value. That tells you a bit about the delusional mindspace that Toyota owners are in.

Great car well engineered inside but you know what? No more reliable than a Falcon if anything more prone to blowing head gaskets than a Falcon is and its a huge job each time.

It was a car nobody wanted, built for a market that didn't exist, and it was just woeful.

Its the same problem Toyota has always had. They should have become an appliance company. They are the world's best at "Toyota-ising" but for the most part they suck at designing cars.

They brought the old Avalon tooling to Australia, because of some weird Toyota fixation that they needed to compete with the Falcon and Commode, and that this misbegotten pig was somehow the right car for the job. This despite obvious evidence that our love affair with big 6 RWD was already starting to wane in real terms. It offered nothing over the Camry built on the same platform, and the suspension and handling were appalling even by Toyota standards. They'd done some deal with the Victorian government, to build this "new" car in Altona, and this resulted in their sales being mostly to taxi operators.
And as I said, typical Toyota. They already had a problem selling the Camry to males under 70, so they made a car that was even more sloppy and boring.

[gooseneck]

Yeah they were so cocky they tried to replace two large family sedans/wagons with super large towing capacity with big engines with small engined cars with extra soft suspension that couldn't tow a tissue.

Gives you an idea just how much of a stranglehold the Toyota brand name had on everybody's mind here in Australia as being reliable and dependable across their entire range which is not the case.

Dare I say "Toyota Reliability" is nothing but marketing and its no more reliable statistically than any other car of the same grade. And remember here we're comparing Landrover/Range Rover reliability with Toyota Landcruiser reliability. Wouldn't take much to be more reliable than a Range Rover/Landrover.

*shots whizz past*

What am I saying? that we should all toss out our dependable Landcruisers? no. The damage is done. I'm just sharing my observations of the past.

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Poetic Justice

ITT: Everyone hating on boring cars, particularly SUVs

The Hyundai Veloster a crack at being different and people are like, "why?"

I have no problems with different designs, if it has an aesthetic or practical purpose, but why make a 3 door when there is no earthy reason to do so?

Clever design I understand, like the Honda civic 4 door hatch that placed the rear door handles into the corner window mouldings making the rear handles "invisible" and giving the car an appearance of a "coupe" with cleaner lines. That is different, with aesthetic and purpose- that car was built in England and probably had european designers have a hand in it's design.

The Hyundai Veloster 3 door- I personally find it w***y.

[Bossxr8]

Anything Chinese, but mostly stuff like the Great Wall utes.

Every time I see one I think the owner must be some povo tightarse who can't afford a real ute, so buys the cheapest, most terrible tin foil thing on wheels just to save a few bucks. Seemingly happy to support a communist scourge on the civilized world. For christ sake, they were still using gaskets made with asbestos until they got busted a few years ago. Just goes to show how little they care about human life.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by cheap

BMW’s

Over-rated
Over-priced
Prone to issues
Costly to repair
Early adopter introduction of new technology (owner risk)
Dealers suck
Depreciate like a rock in water
Owners seem to think road rules don’t apply to them

A German Holden tarted up to be something ‘special’

You'll never have to indicate again!

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

You'll never have to indicate again!

I really like their M range vehicles (and the 335i I'm looking at) - quick, tough and subtle.

But gee so many over overpriced ordinary cars in their range (like Audi)

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by cheap

BMW’s

Over-rated
Over-priced
Prone to issues
Costly to repair
Early adopter introduction of new technology (owner risk)
Dealers suck
Depreciate like a rock in water
Owners seem to think road rules don’t apply to them

A German Holden tarted up to be something ‘special’

Cheez cheap, I would have thought with such a wonderful quote under your user name
Wirlankarra yanama. Yurlu nyinku mirda yurndarirda.” . . . “Go with a clear, open and accepting spirit, and the country will not treat you badly”
You'd think you'd would be an open minded caring person.
Maybe you've got burnt regards bimmer ?
Burnt, I know if people use dealers for repairs but I can't in spirit believe alot in your list one bit.
I've been around sometime and in the auto parts game and owned many varying types of cars.
The main thing I would add to your list is ALL the 3 top euro brands are soso alike not bimmer alone, throw in volvo in the end.

Over rated ? yeh and nah, base models absolutley but they still handle pretty good imo - mid spec up to Msports sorry they are top drivers cars, as are amgs and slines.
Over priced ? - here absolutely agree !
Prone to issues ? there are lemons for all brands, and less for some owners, many euro brands have never agreed with our heat but that has improved compared to the ol days. Most issues occur after 1st owner trade in and 2nd/3rd/4th owners don't service them regularly, then your in a world of hurt, mostly because those owners really couldn't afford them in the first place but its the badge they proudly say but wrong you shouldn't have bought.
Costly to repair ? - all the above but IF your a smarter owner and find a good local specialist who use's good branded product as good as the OE you can save alot !.
Early adopter introduction of new technology (owner risk) ? each of these 3 euro brands have been leaders or followers - either way they get it right next time and better for they like to out do each other.
Dealers suck ??? hey thats the $64M question with any brand.
Depreciate like a rock in water ? - oh no doubt about that one incl MB/Audi, they are all in the same basket, near on 50% within 3yrs, funny my Falcons suffered the same feat.
Owners seem to think road rules don’t apply to them ? well I couldn't pigeon hole just bimmer owners with that mind set, arn't people today complaining about dual cab drivers behaving as such ? courier/freight drivers ? yaddayaddayadda.
A German Holden tarted up to be something ‘special’ ??? this one is a real cracker for me, having been in Frankfurt a number of times I beg to differ, I notice MB's so much more as "taxis" - bimmers yes and some audis but MB looks to be the fav for taxi drivers - I suppose something in common with our good ol Falcon

Unless your taking the **** but I thought to chime in for yes I've owned a couple and the driving and ownership experience is just OK - where's that wink emoji

[gooseneck]

This thread is about hate. Not love. Cheer up Chief.

By taking out our anger for BMWs on this thread we don't let it out when on the road. Very zen when you think about it.

Think about it, the more popular this thread is the less you get given the finger out on the road.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by FTE217

Cheez cheap, I would have thought with such a wonderful quote under your user name
Wirlankarra yanama. Yurlu nyinku mirda yurndarirda.” . . . “Go with a clear, open and accepting spirit, and the country will not treat you badly”
You'd think you'd would be an open minded caring person.
Maybe you've got burnt regards bimmer ?
Burnt, I know if people use dealers for repairs but I can't in spirit believe alot in your list one bit.
I've been around sometime and in the auto parts game and owned many varying types of cars.
The main thing I would add to your list is ALL the 3 top euro brands are soso alike not bimmer alone, throw in volvo in the end.

Over rated ? yeh and nah, base models absolutley but they still handle pretty good imo - mid spec up to Msports sorry they are top drivers cars, as are amgs and slines.
Over priced ? - here absolutely agree !
Prone to issues ? there are lemons for all brands, and less for some owners, many euro brands have never agreed with our heat but that has improved compared to the ol days. Most issues occur after 1st owner trade in and 2nd/3rd/4th owners don't service them regularly, then your in a world of hurt, mostly because those owners really couldn't afford them in the first place but its the badge they proudly say but wrong you shouldn't have bought.
Costly to repair ? - all the above but IF your a smarter owner and find a good local specialist who use's good branded product as good as the OE you can save alot !.
Early adopter introduction of new technology (owner risk) ? each of these 3 euro brands have been leaders or followers - either way they get it right next time and better for they like to out do each other.
Dealers suck ??? hey thats the $64M question with any brand.
Depreciate like a rock in water ? - oh no doubt about that one incl MB/Audi, they are all in the same basket, near on 50% within 3yrs, funny my Falcons suffered the same feat.
Owners seem to think road rules don’t apply to them ? well I couldn't pigeon hole just bimmer owners with that mind set, arn't people today complaining about dual cab drivers behaving as such ? courier/freight drivers ? yaddayaddayadda.
A German Holden tarted up to be something ‘special’ ??? this one is a real cracker for me, having been in Frankfurt a number of times I beg to differ, I notice MB's so much more as "taxis" - bimmers yes and some audis but MB looks to be the fav for taxi drivers - I suppose something in common with our good ol Falcon

Unless your taking the **** but I thought to chime in for yes I've owned a couple and the driving and ownership experience is just OK - where's that wink emoji

#butthurt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VowVkOrMTD4

[FTE217]

Hehe
Hate thread but I’m a luver lol

[98TLS]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Mitsubishi Mirage - they always seemed to hold up traffic.

Thankfully barely seen on the roads today.

but the VW Tiguan has taken its place as the mobile road block.

I cant stand the sight of them

That made me chuckle,ive got myself to work in one for 14 years and whilst its not the car i will think of with any great fondness when sitting out on the porch in a rocking chair i think credit where credits due its never ever once let me down,in that time ive replaced the cam belt due to its age (97) other than that nothing bar an oil change once a year etc,bought the thing at 9000km and coming home from work on Tuesday it clicked over 100000ks.A boring little ****box for sure but after 14 years of reliability its almost part of the family Will add that its rooflining isnt falling down/the doors open/the aircon works etc unlike my very much loved BA GTPs
Back on topic...Cant really think of a car i would hate but did yet again come across another Ranger in the supermarket car park the other day with after market 4wd everything but not a scratch on the paintwork and even tyre black cant say i hate it but seems a lot to spend on a handbag.

[CyberWasp]

Let me get this right.
People with good money can pick any car they choose.
They willingly walk into a dealership and choose this as the sexiest option.

[jaydee]

Ford Taurus from the mid 90's.
Looks like a cockroach

[fnp]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Ford Taurus from the mid 90's.
Looks like a cockroach

I see your Taurus and raise you a Scorpio.

[MITCHAY]

How can anyone buy a Juke and think it looks good just makes no sense to me. Talk about your taste being in your ****. Each to their own.

Though I was at the shops the other day and a car full of idiots rocked up in a Cordia. That is an ugly POS.

[MercuryT]

Originally Posted by jaydee

Ford Taurus from the mid 90's.
Looks like a cockroach

The Merc SLS (I think) just a fancier version.

Awful.

[Franco Cozzo]

Tell you what the Alloytec Commodore pre SIDI rates high on my ****list, what a torqueless piece of crap those things are to be in a large car like the Commodore.

Coupled with dodgy ECUs that blow the injector driver circuitry and timing chains that stretch makes for a woeful ownership experience.

Admittedly they respond well to boost though but she doesn't live up to the mighty mang Ecotec V6 predecessor that is bullet proof.

The SIDI variant is a bit nicer but you still notice the torque deficit sub 4500 RPM and you end up using more throttle everywhere to get it moving properly.

Officially record VZ and VE Series I 3.6L V6 Commodore on my ****list please.

Makes me wonder if the LS1 is considered so good in the Commodore just because the base V6 engine is so lame? Kinda like the Boss 260 in the B series XR8s - is it bad or was the Barra turbo just a god damn beast?

[Mainforcepatrol]

[QUOTE=Sabantien;6471789]Honestly, don't hate any car.

But the one car I would definitely never own is a Holden Cruze.

The updated Cruze had an additional smaller grill above the main one.They ran out of ideas.However the Lexus SUVs they grate something chronic with the front grill consisting of two vees joining in the centre and then having high beams flash you as you overtake them while they travel below the speed limit.Cannot escape the crap Toyota dna.

Honourable mention the Diahatsu Charade in white that had color coded mudspats.

[fnp]

[QUOTE=Mainforcepatrol;6472960]

Originally Posted by Sabantien

Honestly, don't hate any car.

But the one car I would definitely never own is a Holden Cruze.

The updated Cruze had an additional smaller grill above the main one.They ran out of ideas.However the Lexus SUVs they grate something chronic with the front grill consisting of two vees joining in the centre and then having high beams flash you as you overtake them while they travel below the speed limit.Cannot escape the crap Toyota dna.

Honourable mention the Diahatsu Charade in white that had color coded mudspats.

I'd quite like a Daihatsu Charade. I'd keep it in my boot and use it to drive from the carpark to the building.

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