ACA - Toll roads

[SB076]

Was interesting watching ACA last night, they have done some comparisons between using toll roads and not using toll roads. They started in Frankston with two Ford XR6 and the goal was to reach Melbourne markets. One car went via Eastlink and the Monash (paid about $10.00) the other car went along beach road (paid $0) No surprise there but the biggest surprise was that the car that went along beach road travelled less distance, at a greater average speed and arrived 10 minutes earlier than the car that made use of the toll roads. Both cars left at the same time and travelled in peak hour traffic

[Fev]

hahah - just give it a week and it the beach road will take 30 mins longer :P

[flappist]

That was until ACA blabbed about it, today there are 12,635,487,857,645,343 cars all saving $10 and the tollway is empty

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by flappist

That was until ACA blabbed about it, today there are 12,635,487,857,645,343 cars all saving $10 and the tollway is empty

Bit like when ACA blabbed about petrol being cheapest on a thursday!!! :

[SB076]

Yep its all part of an evil plan to
a) show how good our toll roads are (now that no one uses them)
b) Annoy beach rd residents

They did the same with other states and found other states had the similiar issues

[mcnews]

I swear you lose an IQ point for every minute spent watching A Current Affair or Today Tonight.

For any current affairs or news the ABC has the only shows with the slightest skerrick of credibility.

[Fev]

Originally Posted by mcnews

I swear you lose an IQ point for every minute spent watching A Current Affair or Today Tonight.

For any current affairs or news the ABC has the only shows with the slightest skerrick of credibility.

for any actual current affairs(i dont consider ANYTHING that ACA puts on as a current affair, its just sh** stirring and crap to fill in because of a lack of bogan stories to exploit) use Stratfor

[davonafairlane]

^^ Agreed

Thats the conclusion I'm coming to, the show sucks big time.

[mik]

it is a bit of an unfair test for the Melbourne one the Monash has road works and they mentioned there was an accident, however that brings up the point , the toll ways are supposed to be the fast way around town .....on days when its a car park (regardless of road work should) we be paying toll`s , 1 vote here for NO, at least that way if traffic flow is partially stunted due to road works they might pull their finger out, the guy they interviewed (RACV i think) mentioned the design of our freeways was out dated before they were completed, ie they should have had more lanes to start with.......stating the obviouse there.

[AndrewR_AUII]

So, how long until the item on how much traffic is going along beach road, and how little used the Toll roads are ??

[fordOwner]

Tolls are the biggest load of $!#@.
If Perth ever adopted Tolls im packing my bags and moving.

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by fordOwner

Tolls are the biggest load of $!#@.
If Perth ever adopted Tolls im packing my bags and moving.

To where?

[Fev]

lol dont bother coming to sydney! tolls on every motorway.. and the M2 of a morning is horrible after 7:20am coming from pennant hills - i still cant understand why they made it 2 lanes each way and 3 lanes in some parts then back to 2 lanes.. just creates bottlenecks and slows the flow down - just as bad as the pacific highway

[GORDZ]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

To where?

lol, beat me to it.

[XR06T]

i thought the idea was to pay rego to provide funds for the upkeep of the roads? wtf are tolls for? if they are for the upkeep of the roads, why is there rego?

[Fev]

most motorways aren't owned by the government. they build them and when they realise they were built dumbly(ie what i said above), made a mistake, spent too much money with not enough return and then they sell them

[XR06T]

the govt doesn't own the road??? ahahahahhaha thats unreal..

[SB076]

Originally Posted by XR06T

i thought the idea was to pay rego to provide funds for the upkeep of the roads? wtf are tolls for? if they are for the upkeep of the roads, why is there rego?

Actually I beleive the fuel excise was to pay for roads (accoriding to the government) Therefore I presume we can all expect a rebate as now we are paying twice (tolls and fuel excise)

[whales]

Originally Posted by mcnews

I swear you lose an IQ point for every minute spent watching A Current Affair or Today Tonight.

For any current affairs or news the ABC has the only shows with the slightest skerrick of credibility.

Well said.

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by irlewy86

To where?

Cairns I'd say.

No toll roads up here.

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

Cairns I'd say.

No toll roads up here.

Well yeah, plenty of regional centres will never have toll roads but if Perth ever gets them you can bet your left jewl all the major cities will have them.

[Fev]

i dont think theres enough traffic up there to need a tollable road :P

[Buzz Box]

That comparison was SOOOOOOOOO bad and biased.

A) There was a car accident on the Monash!!
B) They used a road with roadwork’s (and a car accident)
C) They used the wrong road
D) The Monash does NOT have tolls
E) The tolls don't come to $10 for that return trip

So lets see that again a trip from an outer suburb to the heart of the city and the "toll car" has roadwork’s, takes the wrong road and an accident and still only arrives 10 mins later for a trip that takes an hour is quite contradictory for the point they are making isn't it??

Imagine if they used A) the right road, B) no roadwork’s or C) no accident and imagine is all you will be doing because they would have NEVER showed it!!!

(Ok ok I am breathing again now and my blood pressure is returning to normal lol)

[pauljh74]

Originally Posted by SB076

Actually I beleive the fuel excise was to pay for roads (accoriding to the government) Therefore I presume we can all expect a rebate as now we are paying twice (tolls and fuel excise)

Started out at 4c/litre about 25 years ago. Now it is more than 10 times that (excise + GST on excise) and we don't have enough money for roads apparently.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by mik

the guy they interviewed (RACV i think) mentioned the design of our freeways was out dated before they were completed, ie they should have had more lanes to start with.......stating the obviouse there.

He is a right wing columnist for the herald sun.

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by SB076

Actually I beleive the fuel excise was to pay for roads (accoriding to the government) Therefore I presume we can all expect a rebate as now we are paying twice (tolls and fuel excise)

Does this also have to cover that god damn useless crew that were "working"(Reads: sitting on the truck throwing food at birds) at 11am. And sending traffic both ways down a 1 lane highway for 2ks?

/rant over... i feel better now

[Rodp]

I believe one of those schlock shows had some sort of super bikini or something on tonight? I was testing my new TV capture card and caught 1/2 a second of it. They *nearly* had me tune in for that.

I'd guarantee that their findings were complete bollocks though. How anyone can regularly watch that crap is a mystery to me.

[fordOwner]

Where would I move to?
I was thinking somewhere outside of Australia, Pack my ute in a sea container and head to a small medierainian island or something. Cypres sounds nice.
After the results from our state election it looks like that major projects that the previous Government had promised (including new transport infrasructure) will be scrapped for funding to regional areas. Thus in my eyes the only way for these new roads to be built is to privatise them...Looks like the new government has "taken its toll"

[82XD393.3v]

Originally Posted by Buzz Box

That comparison was SOOOOOOOOO bad and biased.

A) There was a car accident on the Monash!!
B) They used a road with roadwork’s (and a car accident)
C) They used the wrong road
D) The Monash does NOT have tolls
E) The tolls don't come to $10 for that return trip

So lets see that again a trip from an outer suburb to the heart of the city and the "toll car" has roadwork’s, takes the wrong road and an accident and still only arrives 10 mins later for a trip that takes an hour is quite contradictory for the point they are making isn't it??

Imagine if they used A) the right road, B) no roadwork’s or C) no accident and imagine is all you will be doing because they would have NEVER showed it!!!

(Ok ok I am breathing again now and my blood pressure is returning to normal lol)

didn't see the show but they used the eastlink till the monash then the monash to the city i belive
1,there is tolls on the monash after toorak rd exit which is called city link
2,there is always a accident on the monash in peak hour
3,$10 maybe a understatement for a return trip
4,even if the the rd works and accident wern't a factor id say it would be level pegging and id rather keep my $10

[Auslandau]

Originally Posted by Buzz Box

That comparison was SOOOOOOOOO bad and biased.

A) There was a car accident on the Monash!! Always ....
B) They used a road with roadwork’s (and a car accident) Road works due for completion ..... 2010
C) They used the wrong road. Is there a right road? Or do you mean a longer way around to make the toll roads look good?
D) The Monash does NOT have tolls .....
E) The tolls don't come to $10 for that return trip. Yes they do!

Wasnt that unbiased?



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