Ford's Plant in Brazil - video.

[jonk]

Got this from a contact in the US. Caps aren't mine.

WE RECOMMEND THAT ONE TAKE THE TIME TO VIEW THIS SITE. IT GIVES A . VERY POSITIVE PICTURE OF THE AUTO INDUSTRY IN SOUTH AMERICA & WHY. DETROIT PEOPLE CAN LEARN & BAIL OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE TOTAL ANSWER. ATTITUDE CHANGE IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO OVERCOME.

This may open some eyes!

This is a video of a new Ford plant in Brazil . One look at this and each of you will instantly be able to tell what is wrong with the manufacturing plants of the US car makers and why there will probably never be another one built in the US. It will also point out why more will go off shore.


Ford's most advanced assembly plant

http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

[barra240t]

Thats pretty impressive stuff.

[pertuan]

Wow.... just... Wow...

[Gobes32]

I think you will find that Ford Australia is setup the same however not as many different suppliers. The territory, falcon, falcon ute, wagon and once upon a time, fairlane, all rolled down the same line. They may be the same car essentially, but they all still count as five different body styles. People forget just how flexible and ingenious Ford Oz's operations are.

[Yellow_Festiva]

That is very impressive, and the way it should be if a car manufacture is to survive.

[irlewy86]

Guess my F250 must have come down the line of the old factory.


Taraus X has been just canned in the US and Panther platform has to go one day. Surely Falcon could go Stateside.

[SM1DY]

Its good to have an insight like that. The whole process just looks 'tight'.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

I think you will find that Ford Australia is setup the same however not as many different suppliers. The territory, falcon, falcon ute, wagon and once upon a time, fairlane, all rolled down the same line. They may be the same car essentially, but they all still count as five different body styles. People forget just how flexible and ingenious Ford Oz's operations are.

Thats what I was thinking. The problem in Australia is that its an old plant (not built in 2001) so they have constraints. But I understood at the end that the union is killing lean manufacturing improvements in the US....surprise surpsrise.

[gtfpv]

Originally Posted by jonk

Got this from a contact in the US. Caps aren't mine.

WE RECOMMEND THAT ONE TAKE THE TIME TO VIEW THIS SITE. IT GIVES A . VERY POSITIVE PICTURE OF THE AUTO INDUSTRY IN SOUTH AMERICA & WHY. DETROIT PEOPLE CAN LEARN & BAIL OUT BY THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THE TOTAL ANSWER. ATTITUDE CHANGE IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO OVERCOME.

This may open some eyes!

This is a video of a new Ford plant in Brazil . One look at this and each of you will instantly be able to tell what is wrong with the manufacturing plants of the US car makers and why there will probably never be another one built in the US. It will also point out why more will go off shore.


Ford's most advanced assembly plant

http://info.detnews.com/video/index.cfm?id=1189

i say good on them . and let them be the best if they can . cant comment on the US . but in australia , a factory like this would never exist, because corperate australia are too busy trying to keep reducing costs and cut budgets whilst charging way to much . which are all geared towards huge shareholder profits and fat cat salaries . so i appluad companies with enogh insite to reward and treat all of its staff and employees with conditions like we see here .
they deserve it / because whoever runs this plant is a very very smart cookie .

[vztrt]

gtfpv, you havent been to the campbellfield plant have ya?

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

but in australia , a factory like this would never exist, because corperate australia are too busy trying to keep reducing costs and cut budgets whilst charging way to much . .

Rubbish !!

Go visit the Broadmeadows Assembly plant and watch JIT line side delivery from all the major suppliers, and also the flexible body shop.

The only thing missing is the complete pre-assembly of the drive train and rear suspension in one module - that'll probably happen with Focus.

Suggest you learn your stuff before you 'slag off' the locals...............

[gtfpv]

yeah sorry . i guess i was generalising . . ford australia do produce great cars in my opinion . i hope they are a great company as seems to be the case in brazil. no i havent been to the ford australia plant .
i'm glad some companies do have it together here .

[bob^]

Their only downfall is having the assembly plant 100km away from the manufacturing plant...
But yes, Ford Oz assembly line is impressive to watch, much like in that video.

[vztrt]

Remember Ford Australia showed up Mazda on when it was pointed out that they were wasting time in their manufacturing process.

[Gobes32]

And as impressive as all that looks, imagine if you saw a video of Toyota's Japanese operations? Makes that Brazilian plant look like a go kart factory. It is very impressive. Very smart manufacturers the Japanese.

[Mark351]

Once again, the US unions are shown to be the major roadblock to innovation in the auto sector there with regards to assembly. There will be no auto workers left before they get to a plant model like Brazil or even Australia.

[dom_105]

If Ford tried to build that plant in the US, the UAW would have a fit. This, incidentally, is what is holding back any Ford products which roll off the Broady line making their way to the States.

Unions have their place, but not to the detrement of the employers or the industry, and eventually the employees, in which they operate.

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

And as impressive as all that looks, imagine if you saw a video of Toyota's Japanese operations? Makes that Brazilian plant look like a go kart factory. It is very impressive. Very smart manufacturers the Japanese.

Thus why Japan has spent the last two decades in recession :

Japan is no longer the economic model to follow. Most "Japanese" cars are now built outside Japan. I suspect the profitability of the Brazillian plant has more to do with lower overheads (wages, taxes etc.) than production efficiency otherwise the Broadmeadows plant would be profitable.

[axeray]

That's very impressive.

Wow

[Bossxr8]

Its really no different to Broadmeadows, except it's newer. Ford's Business Park, on the Broadmeadows site, I think, has DANA, Venture, Autoliv and other suppliers supplying parts directly to the production line just in time.

A few years ago Fords Stamping Plant was the highest ranked plant based on the Ford Production System rankings, with the engine plant and Broadmeadows right behind it, so Ford Australia don't play second fiddle to anyone.


I had a mate who works for Toyota just come back from a plant in Thailand, and he reckons the plants are absolute dumps. He said that on some of the presses the workers had to duck down in the middle of the press, so when it cycled they wouldn't get crushed. OH&S does not exist over there. If they didn't duck every time the press cycled they would probably be killed. Unbelieveable.

[SB076]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I had a mate who works for Toyota just come back from a plant in Thailand, and he reckons the plants are absolute dumps. He said that on some of the presses the workers had to duck down in the middle of the press, so when it cycled they wouldn't get crushed. OH&S does not exist over there. If they didn't duck every time the press cycled they would probably be killed. Unbelieveable.

I havent been to Thailand but did have a look at some European manufacturers and the difference in things like press guarding is massive. A lot of people think wages is the sole reason why oz manufacturers cant compete in reality there are many reasons - OH&S, Enviromental, and Govt taxes and charges come to mind

Plants like that can be built anywhere, the reasons why it was built in Brasil is because its considered to be a "low cost centre" its also part of the merging BRIC countries that are tipped to be the next industrial powerhouses

[Gobes32]

Ford Australia is a very, very efficiently run operation. And is more profitable than Holden, even with all their exports. This also goes into factoring why Ford Oz will get the Focus contract and not Thailand. Bossxr8 has touched on OH&S, Ford Oz is the most safest plant to work for in the Ford world. Also, it's not the wages that make cars so expensive, it's the overheads like oh&s, taxes, training, etc.

[Kieron]

Have a read of this about the Camacari plant and what this pro union bloke is saying -

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2008...orate-welfare/

Underneath are some response from what appear to be auto workers/UAW members.

[barbarian]

[zetec]

Kocaeli, home of the Transit

[zetec]

Originally Posted by Kieron

Have a read of this about the Camacari plant and what this pro union bloke is saying -

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2008...orate-welfare/

Underneath are some response from what appear to be auto workers/UAW members.

Good God...

[MAD]

Originally Posted by zetec

Good God...

Therein lies the problem with America..... Americans...lol

[mickyyyy]

That is just amazing stuff

GO FORDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD HAHAHA

[SB076]

Originally Posted by Kieron

Have a read of this about the Camacari plant and what this pro union bloke is saying -

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2008...orate-welfare/

Underneath are some response from what appear to be auto workers/UAW members.

Wow so the global credit crisis is a conspiracy... well thats a relief

[Gobes32]

I think it's about time the union's are bought down a peg or too. You should hear the things the American workers receive.....

- Health insurance for life
- College degree if retrenched
- Full pay for a period if unable to find another job after being retrenched