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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin
Maybe they have realised that making less cars might be better than selling lots at below price. With a one week OFF, one week ON roster, the workers would now be on 4 day fortnights. But as is with all the Holden advertising spin, they still plan to bring back a second shift LOL. |
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Bloody hell.
Cheese and chalk between the two. Ford is at full (admittedly smaller) capacity, and Holden is having one down day a week. MMAL weren't that bad.
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An example of a smaller plant and workforce being worked hard
that's contrasted by a large plant and workforce under producing.... You tell me which plant is more efficient. |
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Hopefully the workers can make ends meet for the time being. The problem is that Holden has to basically bide time till export orders resume and new models are released. They must be counting down the days to the VF and Cruze.
Just yesterday he was saying that things were pretty good. Interesting his comment on exports. I cant imagine shutting a car factory down 1 day a week to be very economical. Quote:
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Well they have obviously seen something into the future demand of the car (something that general motors and holden aint too famous for), or they have built up an excess of stock (maybe overhang from depreciation allowance ending). Regardless, maybe we should be taking a vote on what car will the largest selling car in australia in May, June and July. Hilux - Mazda 3 - Hyundai I30. I'm going for the I30
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http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-n...0422-tf05.html
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It would be overstock, they were building high amounts of cars. I guess they will need the cruze to go ahead. Or somehow get rid of that second shift and run only one shift.
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My gut says that for the i30 to be the biggest seller they would need a sedan variant. But they are selling pretty bloody well with just a hatch and wagon. |
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Ever get the feeling that GM is whistling in the dark.....
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You would probably have to assume Holden and the Melbourne storm have the same accounting team. Tell the public and authorities one thing, but keep a second set of books, that show something else. |
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This is going to end in tears !
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ha ha now thats funny
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I just can't understand how they can be cutting back in a year they have double digit growth in sell through. It can only mean they have massive stock levels. Yet over at Ford, they simiply can't build enough & need to work Saturdays..
I do feel sorry for the workers, half pay every 2nd week & now 8 weeks of 4 days only!! Ashame some of those works cant be sent to Ford |
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just to play devils advocate...
how many people bought a bf2 only months out from the release of the fg? if holden are actually releasing a new commodore in a few months, then cutting back production to limit the amount of 'old' cars sitting around would be the smart thing to do wouldn't it? back to reality.. i thought there was a delay with the aussie built cruze. they talk like its still going ahead in 8 months time. |
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They have no option... Cruze is locked in, and the sales will be strong, but the profits will be non existant. New Commodore ? I'm predicting no sheetmetal and basically trim and detail changes. They have too many cars, but they'll spin the fact that they are making a good decision based on runout. The fact is they can't sell the cars they have so they need to cut back... Fact... the market is growing, sales are increasing as a whole industry and yet Holden are scheduling downdays... the FAIL is strong here !! |
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The cruze was slated for 4th quarter of 2010. Releasing the car in 2011 is therefore the delay you heard about. |
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Just wondering, I assume the standard shifts are supposed to be two a day five days a week?
What if going at Ford for comparison, what is normal? What extra are they doing?
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Look at monthly manufacturing, Ford's Falcon/Territory/Ute volumes
are only slightly under Holden's Commodore/Caprice/Ute numbers. When you compare the size of the work forces, something decidedly screwy is going on, only one of them can be doing it right at the moment.... Holden are painting a lot of blue sky with local Cruze and Caprice PPV exports, I can see this ending in tears as Holden looks to make volume but not profits... |
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As somebody said, the industry is recovering with high sales (FOMOCO Building to order?) The boys at Holdens must have some serious stock issues if they are publicly stating that they have essentially an excess of old stock that they cant sell?????
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A hyundai ELANTRA is a sedan i30. Its just named differently. Shape from behind back door forward is near the same, interior is the same, engines the same etc etc. |
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http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1225857029108
So as the article says, the updated commodore is likely to be called VE series II. With no decent updates, the VE will be running for quite a while yet. You would think with a model so old, that some decent discounts will have to be offered to get them out the door. |
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