Petrol to Diesel Conversion?

[dylancox]

http://www.greendieselcorp.com/index.html

This group claims to have converted an alloytec motor to run on diesel? Is this possible? Click 'next' 3 times on the webpage to see the details.

[babyf6]

would like to see this work in person,
could be a good idea, though you would want to be licenced as it could go bad if people try to convert at home

[dylancox]

Falcon i6 with cast-iron block would run pretty nicely? XR6T diesel?

[babyf6]

Originally Posted by dylancox

Falcon i6 with cast-iron block would run pretty nicely? XR6T diesel?

would get more people buying falcons, as diesel is cheaper to run, would give a good incentive to buy them.

Fast car with efficient engine, always a winner.

[Kryton]

Heard of them several years ago and even enquired about converting the Falcon to Diesel but they werent at that stage yet.

[OzJavelin]

Wasn't the Oldsmobile 350V8 petrol engine converted to diesel at the factory .. Ie. It's the same basic engine converted? (could be wrong) ..
BTW: I think the Olds diesel wasn't much to write home about .. :(

[TMC]

Don't you need more rings on the piston with diesel. I don't think a petrol motor would handle the forces involved. Diesels are beefier from the get go.

[FrogInASock]

Originally Posted by OzJavelin

Wasn't the Oldsmobile 350V8 petrol engine converted to diesel at the factory .. Ie. It's the same basic engine converted? (could be wrong) ..
BTW: I think the Olds diesel wasn't much to write home about .. :(

The Olds 350 V8 diesel was based upon the equivalent petrol, but they were different enough to be regarded as seperate engines. And they apparently weren't too reliable in the long term, as you said.

[jpd80]

If an ultra high pressure injector was the answer to NOX Emission problems, OEMs would be all over it.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by dylancox

http://www.greendieselcorp.com/index.html

This group claims to have converted an alloytec motor to run on diesel? Is this possible? Click 'next' 3 times on the webpage to see the details.

that site hasnt been updated in three years..

another hairy armpit greeny save the planet bs mob.....

[belvo]

who in there right mind would actually convert there car to diesel when there is already cheaper safer and easier option lpg.

[chevypower]

The world still hasn't learnt its lesson that petrol engines converted to diesel just don't work?

[jpd80]

I'm sorry but the block architecture of a lightweight alloy petrol engine isn't strong enough
to support the heavier rotating mass and bigger bearings of Turbo diesel engine.

And forget about small NA diesels today, they just don't cut it against modern DI petrol engines...

The problem with NOX Emissions comes from efficient combustion of small amounts of fuel,
the trick is to increase density of charge without spiking compression pressure and temperature.

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by chevypower

The world still hasn't learnt its lesson that petrol engines converted to diesel just don't work?

^ This.

An allow block engine is not up to the task of running diesel, period. However, a Falcon I6 with beefier conrods, pistons to suit and an iron head, it could be an oil burner....

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

^ This.

An allow block engine is not up to the task of running diesel, period. However, a Falcon I6 with beefier conrods, pistons to suit and an iron head, it could be an oil burner....

But then why bother? The only thing that is usable is the cylinder block. Ford already has some beautiful diesels out there. 3.0 V6, 4.4 V8, and 6.7 V8 all with CGI blocks.

[Nic85]

Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf

^ This.

An allow block engine is not up to the task of running diesel, period. However, a Falcon I6 with beefier conrods, pistons to suit and an iron head, it could be an oil burner....

I'll assume "allow" is meant to be "alloy", and I'll say that, that is not the case anymore. I'm pretty sure the Euro's are using aluminium blocks for their diesel engines now, but I know for sure Mitsubishi used an all aluminium block and head for the 4N13 in the new ASX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4N1_engine

[babyf6]

wheres mythbusters when you need them

[charles_wif_xf]

Originally Posted by Nic85

I'll assume "allow" is meant to be "alloy", and I'll say that, that is not the case anymore. I'm pretty sure the Euro's are using aluminium blocks for their diesel engines now, but I know for sure Mitsubishi used an all aluminium block and head for the 4N13 in the new ASX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4N1_engine

Yes, that was meant to be alloy lol. CURSE THE SPELLING DEMONS!!!

[ebxr8240]

Modern computerised diesels don't bang and thump like the old
mechanical injected motors..
In the past there has been some failures like the 350G.M to diesel etc
The motor in the old Mk4 Zephyr was designed as a diesel on the drawing board.. Same motor that was in 3ltr Capri's..
The new diesel motors have heaps of refinement behind them and pass all sorts of EPA.. I doubt converting will be legal ???

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Nic85

I'll assume "allow" is meant to be "alloy", and I'll say that, that is not the case anymore. I'm pretty sure the Euro's are using aluminium blocks for their diesel engines now, but I know for sure Mitsubishi used an all aluminium block and head for the 4N13 in the new ASX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4N1_engine

Modern diesels do use alloy or CGI blocks, but you can bet they are quite beefy to handle very high compression most diesels use. A normal petrol alloy block wouldn't be up to it.

[music189]

I read somewhere in the new Terri stuff before it was released that Ford had got the I6 to run on diesel but the program got cut

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by music189

I read somewhere in the new Terri stuff before it was released that Ford had got the I6 to run on diesel but the program got cut

Many years ago Geoff Polites desire was to see an I-6 diesel in the Territory,
cost and the availability of the 2.7 V6 diesel were the reason it wasn't pursued.

[wrongwaynorris]

When Japanese high speed diesels first started to become popular in the late 70's & early 80's the same morons who rubished Range Rovers also rubished Perkins , Gardener Denver , Lister and Petter engines . If a diesel is designed and built correctly it will last forever .

[Nic85]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Modern diesels do use alloy or CGI blocks, but you can bet they are quite beefy to handle very high compression most diesels use. A normal petrol alloy block wouldn't be up to it.

The newer diesel engines are moving to lower compression ratios to improve NVH and smoothness. The 4N13 in the Mitsubishi ASX for example runs a 14.9:1 compression ratio, the new Mazda Skyactive diesel and petrol engines both run 14.0:1 compression.

[Bossxr8]

Yeah, I remember hearing that. And the Skyactive petrol compression was up to around 14:1, which is sky high for a petrol, they obviously came up with some sort of trick way to keep detonation under control.

Extremely unusual for a petrol engine to nearly match an alternate diesel's compression.