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07-07-2014, 11:24 AM | #1 | ||
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Hey guys just wanna know what the legalities of wrapping a vehicle are.
Here's the story got a bloke at work who's an avid four wheel driver. He was around high country/Mansfield area on the weekend reckon's he pulled into Mansfield Sunday arvo on the way home and the cops were doing bretho/rwc checks school holidays skiing etc... He got done for 175 bucks cause he's car is registered as a silver navara but he's got a camo wrap on it and the cop said he needed to call vicroads and say his car now is green brown and what ever other colour the wrap is. He put the wrap on cause he's just knocked all the dent's and scratches out of the car and wrapped it to protect it and save money on touch upa. So just wondering what the go is with telling your rego authorities what colour your car is if it's a multicolour wrap like some companies put on there car's |
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07-07-2014, 11:26 AM | #2 | ||
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interesting one.
Guess legally you would have to but i bet most don't. If you don't tell them then the cops don't have an accurate description when checking regos etc
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07-07-2014, 11:30 AM | #3 | ||
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Thats what the cop said that if he's changed it to even red or black or whatever colour that if they check the rego and the car comes up silver but is another colour they might think stolen plates etc... and the cops actually need to work so might be of annoyance to them on that one
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07-07-2014, 11:39 AM | #4 | ||
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Registration details must be kept up to date with Vicroads.
Its something that people don't realise, or perhaps don't bother about these days when changing the colour. Same with changing the engine over. Something we ensured many years ago, but people are pretty slack these days. |
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07-07-2014, 11:49 AM | #5 | ||
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In VIC they can dream up anything to do you for. A famale friend of mine got pulled 'randomly' in Healesville and got done for worn handgrips, defected.... They have no grip on them from new and were not worn..... Clowns.
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07-07-2014, 11:54 AM | #6 | ||
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Or the old obstruction of view for the air freshner hanging off the rear vision mirror combined with the empty washer bottle trick.
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07-07-2014, 12:55 PM | #7 | ||
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Oxygen theifs.Be a shame if they had to get off their### and do some real policing like catching murderers rapists etc but I guess these people dont bother paying fines
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07-07-2014, 01:48 PM | #8 | |||
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But it can all come back to what you are saying, just for example, this car that has been painted or wrapped is involved in a violent crime such as rape or murder. Someone gets a rego, but is unsure of the exact rego. Police do a rego search and the car comes back as a silver car instead of a Camo colour car. The police officer asks the witness what colour was the car, the witness says camo. Police, miss the vital clue because the colour of the car is changed without notify Vic roads. Murder or rapist is not caught because of this. So you may see it not important and you may see this as a huge waste of resources, but sometimes even the smallest thing is important. Plus Highway patrol officers and such do not work on murder cases usually. |
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07-07-2014, 02:01 PM | #9 | ||
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Yet another mindless drone succumbing to the all power to the authority pathetic mentality
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07-07-2014, 04:21 PM | #11 | ||
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yes i know hiway patrol dont do murder cases etc as most of them would be to lazy get from behind the wheel to fine someone.as for the stolen no plate scenario you would hope if said rego was assigned to the same model vehicle that that they would visit said owner to investigate further, cause as anybody who has had dealings with the law knows, eyewitness accounts arent always reliable.do i think police are a waste of time.well todays version yes,after having a few occasions where they couldnt even bothered turning up but there to fine you when you dont have a seat belt on (which effect no one but yourself).they have become a source of revenue for the pollies.why.in this case why couldnt they have made the person aware and given them a number of days to rectify the prob ,no its the fine which matters,got to make those numbers up each week.
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07-07-2014, 05:19 PM | #12 | |||
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Bit of perspective thanks. Or you want Campbell Newman in charge across the country...
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07-07-2014, 05:41 PM | #13 | ||
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Let's not confuse highway tax collectors with real police.
The poor bastards are under the pump to keep their jobs with quotas. If it meant my family eats for another day I would do it too...(and so would many in this thread eh boys?).... |
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07-07-2014, 06:26 PM | #14 | ||
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Why not wrap it in clear ?
And please don't turn this into another Police bashing thread they don't end well.
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07-07-2014, 09:01 PM | #15 | ||
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What crap, wrap is temporary, I know of plenty of company vehicles with varying degrees of vinyl sign wrapping, they don't need to advise motor reg.
Sounds like mr plod(or the law) is splitting hairs.
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07-07-2014, 10:06 PM | #16 | |||
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Unbelievable...fools that have no idea what crap Police Officers go through.
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08-07-2014, 06:47 AM | #17 | |||
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08-07-2014, 08:52 AM | #18 | ||
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OP, makes total sense, the car is now a different color. But it's not something you'd immediately think of reporting since, as it has been pointed out, it's a temporary change. however yes, in the event of an accident, altercation or whatever, the most likely description is going to involve the color of the vehicle, so therefore any change to it has to be reported correctly to authorities.
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08-07-2014, 09:13 AM | #19 | |||
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When I was 19, I had a tan Dato 1600, that I painted up similar to the skylines in the ATCC at the time - red front, white middle, blue rear - ACT rego listed it as blue/red since that's the colours people would see mostly.
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08-07-2014, 09:38 AM | #20 | ||
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That's what I am thinking. DO I need to call Vehicle Licencing and tell them my white vehicles are actually red, white and black?
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08-07-2014, 09:39 AM | #21 | ||
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In a situation like the OP mentioned... it would be better if the Police issued the driver with a warning, instructed them to either take the wrap off or change the details with the rego authorities and asked them to present the car at a police station to be re-checked within a certain time period (a week maybe??)
They'd have the driver's and cars details, so if nothing changes within the set period... then issue a fine ! I understand that they Boys out on the beat are just doing what they're told to do... so it's more the law makers who deserve "public questioning" and the ones who instruct the Police on how to apply/enforce the law. Way too many "1 strike and your out" fines issued these days ! Dhru
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08-07-2014, 09:47 AM | #22 | ||
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But what we don't know is the conversation between the 4wd driver and mr plod.
Like a friend of mine once said "I get on much better with the Police when I get pulled over and don't jump out of the Truck and say "What the **** to you ****s want ?"
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08-07-2014, 09:55 AM | #23 | ||
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Post a picture and let's see. If it has equal amounts of black and red and white, then yes. If the black and red is a minor part, like advertising colours, then the white should suffice. If you can't make the judgement yourself, then take it to your local rego place and ask them.....
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08-07-2014, 10:13 AM | #24 | ||
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There is a form to be completed in WA. This one: http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...icleColour.pdf Things have improved; a change of colour used to be considered a mod and you used to have to go over the pits again.
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08-07-2014, 01:02 PM | #25 | |||
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Regarding OP. Change colour advise VicRoads. Simple. If you re wrap your car, advise VicRoads. I really do not see an issue here.
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08-07-2014, 02:10 PM | #26 | ||
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I recon if the "offender" rectified the situation with VIC roads then wrote a letter stating they were unaware of the law and were very apologetic it would get reversed.
Cops around Mansfield are probably some of the toughest around, but to get a ticket for an offence like this would IMO normally depend on the drivers attitude..
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08-07-2014, 08:05 PM | #27 | ||
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Yes ... that is what is required.
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08-07-2014, 08:22 PM | #28 | ||
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The cop told him exactly what he needs to do, call them. No inspection needed. It wouldn't be the first time someone has wrapped their car so I'm sure they know exactly what to do.
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/...ifications.htm Rule of thumb, if it's listed on your rego paper then you have to update it with the authorities when it changes. Last edited by MITCHAY; 08-07-2014 at 08:28 PM. |
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08-07-2014, 08:26 PM | #29 | ||
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When i resprayed my car a different colour, i enquired with vic roads, got them to change the vehicle colour from silver to blue and away i went.. Took all of about 30 mins.. No charge, no hassle so why not do it?
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08-07-2014, 08:41 PM | #30 | |||
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you're kidding me? No hassle? you enjoy the absolutely mind numbing 30 minute experience of attending a Vic roads office, staffed by what seems a disproportionate majority of public servants who have their own unique inflated moronic sense of superiority ? Not this little black duck. |
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