Apparently this is the Commodore's replacement

[Trump]

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/n...01-gn7vr4.html

Thoughts?

[Wretched]

bulky

[Sioso]

Reminds me of a Citroen.
Shape is horrible IMHO.

[4vxc]

Nice for a Holden

[FPV0137]

Kill it with fire!

[mik]

i think this gives more of a look ............
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhal...s-and-spyshots

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by mik

i think this gives more of a look ............
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhal...s-and-spyshots

yeah great

[Beastie]

Does it come in any other colours?

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

The head of GM's Opel division, Karl-Thomas Neumann...said...."[We will sell] as many as possible."

My editing to make it read nice.

Gee sure am glad they put this guy in charge. I dunno, but maybe he's on to something here....

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by Sioso

Reminds me of a Citroen.
Shape is horrible IMHO.

It does! why is it sitting so low in then rear? does it have 3 overweight car reporters in the back

[JC]

Love it or hate it, at least Holden are showing what the commodore replacement is - what have Ford done? Nothing.... (Mustang is not Falcon replacement - it only seats 4 for a start, and is 2 door, and cramped)

[mitelsx2000]

Originally Posted by mik

i think this gives more of a look ............
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhal...s-and-spyshots

Oh my god!!!! I will not be buying one.

[Dauphin]

I instantly thought Mitsubishi 380.

The liftback rear end could be a fake camouflage thing.

[Jess1992]

It's no uglier than an FG-X lol

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by JC

Love it or hate it, at least Holden are showing what the commodore replacement is - what have Ford done? Nothing.... (Mustang is not Falcon replacement - it only seats 4 for a start, and is 2 door, and cramped)

So would you prefer that Ford plaster Falcon badges all over the Mondeo?
Because this is exactly what Holden are doing.

Mondeo is the Falcon replacement.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by mik

i think this gives more of a look ............
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhal...s-and-spyshots

blurg

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by JC

Love it or hate it, at least Holden are showing what the commodore replacement is - what have Ford done? Nothing.... (Mustang is not Falcon replacement - it only seats 4 for a start, and is 2 door, and cramped)

Holden have to maintain the Commodore name and try and keep over 2000 units of sales in the public domain because they are continuing the badge. Ford are not so IF there is a Falcon replacement, and I'm not expecting one, it will be introduced as such.

[CyberWasp]

It should not be called a Commodore if it is not RWD or have V8 as an option.
What are Holden smoking if they think the public will buy this.
Rest the name until something comes along that warrants the name at least.

[Dave R]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Ford are not so IF there is a Falcon replacement, and I'm not expecting one, it will be introduced as such.

I assume their strategy is to push Falcon/Territory refugees into Mondeo/Everest/Mustang.

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

It should not be called a Commodore if it is not RWD or have V8 as an option.
What are Holden smoking if they think the public will buy this.
Rest the name until something comes along that warrants the name at least.

Holden were talking up an AWD strategy for the commodore in the early 2000s. They never followed through with VE but an AWD Insignia with a turbo six and some local input might not be so bad, as long as it has a usable tow rating.

[superroo]

Originally Posted by JC

Love it or hate it, at least Holden are showing what the commodore replacement is - what have Ford done? Nothing.... (Mustang is not Falcon replacement - it only seats 4 for a start, and is 2 door, and cramped)

You are aware this is a mid size car and not a large one?
It's a competitor to the Mondeo

[blue sleeper]

Wait a lowered, stretched, sporty Pontiac Aztek! Sign me up!!!

[MethodX]

Looks good, hope it sells well.

4wd and twin turbo sounds good...

Ford didn't have a V8 Falcon for many years and still called the car Falcon... during their cardigan years.

[Merlium]

Originally Posted by JC

Love it or hate it, at least Holden are showing what the commodore replacement is - what have Ford done? Nothing.... (Mustang is not Falcon replacement - it only seats 4 for a start, and is 2 door, and cramped)

Nope, you've got this completely ar$e-backwards.

Ford have been honest from day one about their intention to drop the full-size Falcon, and make the mid-size Mondeo their singular choice for a family sedan.

GM/Holden meanwhile are not just killing the full-size Commodore - they're taking the mid-size Insignia and gluing a 'Commodore' badge on it, in a sleazy attempt to keep reeling in sales.

And on top of that, at least Ford have a Mustang in Oz - what is Holden getting to compete with that?

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Outrune

Nope, you've got this completely ar$e-backwards.

Ford have been honest from day one about their intention to drop the full-size Falcon, and make the mid-size Mondeo their singular choice for a family sedan.

GM/Holden meanwhile are not just killing the full-size Commodore - they're taking the mid-size Insignia and gluing a 'Commodore' badge on it, in a sleazy attempt to keep reeling in sales.

And on top of that, at least Ford have a Mustang in Oz - what is Holden getting to compete with that?

Whats sleazy about it? its just business.
Smart to use any name recognition left..

GM could always bring the Camaro or Corvette..... if Mustang sales don't die off.

[OzriderXR8]

Originally Posted by superroo

You are aware this is a mid size car and not a large one?
It's a competitor to the Mondeo

Not much in them and the new one is said to be growing by 150mm.

Specs from Carsales.com.au

Commodore

Length 4966 (mm)
Width 1898 (mm)
Height 1471 (mm)
Wheelbase 2915 (mm)

Insignia

Length 4842 (mm)
Width 2084 (mm)
Height 1484 (mm)
Wheelbase 2737 (mm)

Hired one in the UK, tons of room.

[tranquilized]

Wheels take on it;

http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/news/160...ted-commodore/

Seems to be all but confirmed the Opel Insignia will be Commodores replacement.

When you consider how many Commodores sold are V8's, wagons, and/or utes, it's pretty obvious that this is destined to fail dismally and you really have to wonder what Holden are smoking.

[hootar]

and I hate the colour too.

But all the holden sheep will flock to buy it lead by their media Shepherd joshua dowling.

[csv8]

Wasn't it going to be the Chinese Buick LaCrosse.?

[superroo]

Originally Posted by OzriderXR8

Not much in them and the new one is said to be growing by 150mm.

Specs from Carsales.com.au

Commodore

Length 4966 (mm)
Width 1898 (mm)
Height 1471 (mm)
Wheelbase 2915 (mm)

Insignia

Length 4842 (mm)
Width 2084 (mm)
Height 1484 (mm)
Wheelbase 2737 (mm)

Hired one in the UK, tons of room.

Never let facts get in the way of a good story

Mondeo
Length 4871 (mm)
Width 1852 (mm)
Height 1482 (mm)
Wheelbase 2850 (mm)

Falcon
Length 4949 (mm)
Width 1868 (mm)
Height 1494 (mm)
Wheelbase 2838 (mm)

Also, Insigna width isn't that wide. That measurement is with the mirrors out

Originally Posted by www.vauxhall.co.uk

Width excluding/including door mirrors (mm) 1856 / 2084

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by tempted

That actually looks quite good. Leaps and bounds better than a fugly whale mouthed Mondeo.

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surely you troll, the mondeo is a great looker for its price point and above. that other thing is just a mess of angles,

take off your holden blinkers.

on a side not that was nearly a complement for a import, thats a lot of growth for you