Ranger Evolves 19.9.2023

Top_Ghia · 15-09-2023, 07:05 AM

It appears a new Ford Ranger is dropping in a few days.
Will it be EV, Hybrid, PHEV, Petrol engine or another sticker pack?
If I had to guess I would say it would be an EV, as this seems to be the way Ford is heading with most of its models.

**Fordman1** · 15-09-2023, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

It appears a new Ford Ranger is dropping in a few days.
Will it be EV, Hybrid, PHEV, Petrol engine or another sticker pack?
If I had to guess I would say it would be an EV, as this seems to be the way Ford is heading with most of its models.

I don’t think so, more likely to be PHEV I think.

jpd80 · 15-09-2023, 05:00 PM

Is it the Wildtrak X or has that already been announced?

**DFB FGXR6** · 15-09-2023, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

It appears a new Ford Ranger is dropping in a few days.
Will it be EV, Hybrid, PHEV, Petrol engine or another sticker pack?
If I had to guess I would say it would be an EV, as this seems to be the way Ford is heading with most of its models.

With the tag line "best of both worlds", it will be the hybrid.

Top_Ghia · 15-09-2023, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Is it the Wildtrak X or has that already been announced?

That certainly has been announced.
I see room for a mild hybrid in the line up. Maybe with a petrol engine?

jpd80 · 16-09-2023, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

That certainly has been announced.
I see room for a mild hybrid in the line up. Maybe with a petrol engine?

A hybrid would certainly be welcomed and definitely some government incentive for buyers.
If Ford get this right, I can see them needing another cargo boat….

PooDog · 16-09-2023, 06:14 PM

PHEV would be awesome or a full hybrid but a mild hybrid....waste of time

**Giant Cranium** · 16-09-2023, 06:21 PM

the company I work for has 900 rangers that are end of lease for renewal by the end of the year, I can see 900 hybrid rangers if ford do this right

**Polyal** · 16-09-2023, 08:55 PM

That would be the sweet spot for me, Mitsu have some PHEV thing that does minimal L/100 and has a decent enough EV range.

Dr Smith · 17-09-2023, 07:14 AM

iirc, the first spy shots and rumours started with Rangers potted in Thailand.

jpd80 · 17-09-2023, 09:54 AM

A PHEV option could also be a great way to differentiate between 4x2 and 4x4 products,
I’m think that:
- the 4x4 PHEV (Ranger & Everest) could continue with existing high ride height
- the 4x2 PHEV (Ranger & Everest) could have the lower/std 4x2 ride height to increase differentiation

Since Ford doesn’t have many vehicles choices for our market, maybe presenting Ranger and Everest
as different kinds of vehicles attracts even more customers……

Franco Cozzo · 17-09-2023, 10:30 AM

Hopefully 2.3L Ecoboost hybrid.

Not 'mild hybrid' but proper hybrid.

jpd80 · 17-09-2023, 10:48 AM

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Hopefully 2.3L Ecoboost hybrid.

Not 'mild hybrid' but proper hybrid.

Mild hybrid is basically stop/start

Franco Cozzo · 17-09-2023, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Mild hybrid is basically stop/start

Mild hybrid is an absolute joke is what it is

fiestaz · 17-09-2023, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Mild hybrid is an absolute joke is what it is

*Subaru enters the chat*

Top_Ghia · 17-09-2023, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

A PHEV option could also be a great way to differentiate between 4x2 and 4x4 products,
I’m think that:
- the 4x4 PHEV (Ranger & Everest) could continue with existing high ride height
- the 4x2 PHEV (Ranger & Everest) could have the lower/std 4x2 ride height to increase differentiation

Since Ford doesn’t have many vehicles choices for our market, maybe presenting Ranger and Everest
as different kinds of vehicles attracts even more customers……

There is no difference in ride height of 4X2 and 4X4.
The low rider 4X2 is history.

**DFB FGXR6** · 17-09-2023, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

There is no difference in ride height of 4X2 and 4X4.
The low rider 4X2 is history.

Sadly, this will mean I won't be buying a new Ranger then.

Dr Smith · 18-09-2023, 10:49 AM

Just to add a tiny bit more to Top_Ghia's first post:
I've got the music stuck in my head now:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1702215606446313915

jpd80 · 18-09-2023, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Ghia

There is no difference in ride height of 4X2 and 4X4.
The low rider 4X2 is history.

Yes and until recently, petrol engines were considered history too….

Dr Smith · 19-09-2023, 04:14 PM

2.3L Ecoboost with plug in hybrid and claimed 45km range in electric mode.

Wretched · 19-09-2023, 04:28 PM

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Explore with greater freedom and confidence with Ford’s Pro Power OnboardTM2 system, giving you the ability to use your truck as a mobile generator. Ranger Plug-in Hybrid enables you to plug in and power your work tools or campsite appliances off-grid, all from the back of your truck.

https://www.ford.com.au/showroom/electric/phev/ranger/

kevino · 19-09-2023, 04:34 PM

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https://www.ford.com.au/showroom/electric/phev/ranger/

Coming in 2025?

PooDog · 19-09-2023, 04:54 PM

45km range is worse than the Escape in reality it will be 35-40 .....if you're lucky in to town and back?

Top_Ghia · 19-09-2023, 04:55 PM

I’ve had a bit of experience with a PHEV and think it’s a great option for a lot of people. It works exceptionally well if you can charge it at work and live less than 25km from work.
Our fleet car was averaging about 1.3L/100km but copped a flogging and could easily be much lower with more conservative driving and better planning.
Of course someone has to pay to charge it somewhere.

PooDog · 19-09-2023, 05:47 PM

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45km range is worse than the Escape in reality it will be 35-40 .....if you're lucky in to town and back?

I suppose even if it's just used as a hybrid has got to be a good thing

kevino · 19-09-2023, 06:02 PM

You would be hard pressed to make a business case as a business manager to buy it on that limited range and no doubt a triple gold plated price
Doesn’t stack up
As a personal buy based on likes and emotion might be a different story

Franco Cozzo · 19-09-2023, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PooDog

45km range is worse than the Escape in reality it will be 35-40 .....if you're lucky in to town and back?

Would be compromise between more batteries for more range at the cost of legal payload,

So compromises - it's a commercial vehicle.

If this can smash the diesel on fuel economy or match it then it's a winner, unleaded/E10 costs significantly less than diesel and the maintenance is cheaper too.

Thumbs up from Mr Thailand Special, Franco.

PooDog · 19-09-2023, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kevino

You would be hard pressed to make a business case as a business manager to buy it on that limited range and no doubt a triple gold plated price
Doesn’t stack up
As a personal buy based on likes and emotion might be a different story

Agree if it's not price competitive and most PHEV, s aren't

b0son · 19-09-2023, 07:45 PM

I'd have thought hybrid would make the most sense against the 3L...

whynot · 19-09-2023, 08:07 PM

The F150 Lightning quotes 317 Wh/km. A 45 km range then implies battery capacity around 14 kWh (give or take as the F150 is larger). The F150 battery pack weighs around 820 kg for 98 kWh. Scaling this back to, say, a 14 kWh battery adds around 120 kg (give or take), then add in a small electric motor.

The possible use cases are interesting. Last time I looked at the figures, grid charging a PHEV was about 50% the cost of petrol (per km) using normal power tariff, about 40% of the cost of petrol using off peak (varies across the country).

And, obviously free "fuel" cost if the Ranger PHEV is recharged via solar. The trouble is that most tradies are out earning a crust when the sun is shining.

On the back of the envelope, assuming 40 km round trip per work day, five days per week, 48 weeks of the year, recharging on solar (free). Also assuming petrol consumption at 10l/100km and petrol costing $2 a litre. Gives a maximum fuel saving around $1920 (give or take) per year. (I think, unless I missed a zero somewhere...)

I think caravaners will love having a large capacity 240v supply on hand. Tradies, hummm, depends.