Bored of cars

parawolf · 16-08-2005, 11:07 AM

Man - what do I do.

I feel bored with driving these regular cars. I can't be stuffed with the Falcon range anymore. I like the Fiestas however I'm not a fan of the bum dragging and the performance is not striking (yes i've driven them).

What do I want? A hot hatch or hot coupe, rear wheel drive, I guess 1.8 - 2.5L turbo'd and if it was to be 'new' less than $50k.

Currently the following cars are nicely in the list (all second hand):

Lotus Elise
Nissan 200SX
Toyota Supra RZ

I mean these are either 2 seaters or 'quasi' two seaters sports cars. Oh i'm not having a mid life crisis, i'm 27!

What else should I look out for?

dansedgli · 16-08-2005, 11:08 AM

Buy mine! lol.

There isnt many sub 2.5 litre RWD performance cars, a nissan something or other would probably be my choice, the supra's are damn expensive for what they are.

Nothing australian springs to mind. Skylines are good bang for buck but they are a skyline :(

dansedgli · 16-08-2005, 11:21 AM

How about an MX-5?

The guys over on performance forums love how they handle, Im sure they would go alright with some slight mods, is there a turbo variant?

PULLY6 · 16-08-2005, 11:26 AM

1996 Toyota Supra RZ - Twin Turbo. Have a drive of one mate - you WILL be impressed!

4.9 EF Futura · 16-08-2005, 11:30 AM

Prescribe rotary engine. Take twice per day with food.

Steffo · 16-08-2005, 11:39 AM

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa...d=2&drive_id=2

Buy that. 1998 R34 Nissan Skyline 25GT-t. RB25DET-Neo, 2.5litre DOHC 24v Turbo Inline-Six, RWD, 5-spd Manual. They were 206kW stock, 380ish Nm? Capable of high 13's stock, and handle quite nicely. Nice looking car, lots of mods available to it, and its not part of the Falcon range. And it meets all your criteria. That one seems like a good one too (There are some going for $26-$28k, but they're all modded) because its never been modified, which is getting difficult to find in the Skyline scene.

Or if you want to be a little different.. try this...

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa...ch_distance=25

Classic 911, always nice. 1978 Porsche 911 SC.
Was a 3.0litre OHC Flat-6, EFI, Air-Cooled, 8.5:1 compression
128kW @ 5500rpm
256Nm @ 4200rpm
Car weighed 1052kg
Did 0-100km/h in 6.3 sec, and the top speed was 206km/h.

Plenty on offer if you're getting bored of Fords, plenty plenty.

Heeno · 16-08-2005, 11:42 AM

here's a few for ya

1. Supra (can't go wrong with this baby) :sm_headba
2. STI
3. MX5
4. 200sx
5. mini cooper s (supercharged version, have drivin one and they are very fun :hihi: )
6. skyline

really wouldn't worry bout the skidline, there a 6 anyway, the mini cooper is a bloody fun car and would be my choice if you were to just cruise around and have that heavy foot every now and then, but i would say go the supra there a dead set sex machine with the right body kit, and they go hard, never driven on personally but i have never heard a bad thing about them.

pauljh74 · 16-08-2005, 11:46 AM

The older Porsche would be an exciting drive when pushed hard. When it goes wrong, it bites you back hard.

parawolf · 16-08-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

How about an MX-5?

The guys over on performance forums love how they handle, Im sure they would go alright with some slight mods, is there a turbo variant?

Actually thats not a silly option. The locally (Tickford) produced Mazda MX5 SP turbo. 157kW and 280Nm of torque. That could be fun.

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 12:58 PM

If you wanted to punch the engine size up to 3l grab a 300ZX TT. You wont be disappointed. Also a R32 or R33 GTR would be nice.

Steffo · 16-08-2005, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

If you wanted to punch the engine size up to 3l grab a 300ZX TT. You wont be disappointed. Also a R32 or R33 GTR would be nice.

You're kidding about the 300ZX TT aren't you? Fat, slow, poor engine bay airflow, engine overheating problems, can't turn? Now the GT-R's I agree with though.

Perana · 16-08-2005, 01:22 PM

I would go the Lotus Elise... great handler.. Not so great for daily driving though! 200SX is a nice little car too and probably more sensibe if your wanting a comfortable car still..

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Steffo

You're kidding about the 300ZX TT aren't you? Fat, slow, poor engine bay airflow, engine overheating problems, can't turn? Now the GT-R's I agree with though.

No way in hell am i kidding They are nice cars and got the performance to match. Great handling and braking. The engine bay i do agree about as mechanics will charge through the roof on labour.

nang3 · 16-08-2005, 01:28 PM

haha buy my 350z Track then !!!!!! looks awesome, brembos/18's/leather etc as standard..
206kw stock, but can always add an APS twin turbo kit later on if you want more power..

Laminge · 16-08-2005, 01:31 PM

Excel

Some neons, 5 inch exhaust and your set

XRated · 16-08-2005, 01:35 PM

Old school Porsche would be loads of fun and at least a bit unique! All the other suggestions are fairly reasonable and have their own merits (not a fan of the heavy 300ZX either). Only a few things that personally put me off Skylines: insurance, nearly every Tom, Dick and Harry has one (maybe not GT-R, but ya know what I mean). Renault Sport or whatever they are?

dansedgli · 16-08-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

No way in hell am i kidding They are nice cars and got the performance to match. Great handling and braking. The engine bay i do agree about as mechanics will charge through the roof on labour.

Dude you need to ride in some other cars that are half performance orientated.

Steffo · 16-08-2005, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

No way in hell am i kidding They are nice cars and got the performance to match. Great handling and braking. The engine bay i do agree about as mechanics will charge through the roof on labour.

Great handling? Sure, if school busses excite you with their turning ability. The 300ZX Z32 wasn't that awesome a car, a bit of a flop. Its poor resale value, amongst other things, reflects this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XRated

Old school Porsche would be loads of fun and at least a bit unique!

I agree totally! I'd go for the Porsche option personally.

The MaDDeSTMaN · 16-08-2005, 01:40 PM

Two words, Ford Escort.

2L engine, RWD, decent diff ratio and reasonable gearing, around 900kg, handle better then a lot of newer cars, just add a turbo or supercharger if you want heaps of power, but they go suprisingly well for what they are stock...

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Dude you need to ride in some other cars that are half performance orientated.

Dude the whole Zed series is performance orientated. Since when do twin turbo coupes constitute anything else. If youve even been in one they certainly aint designed to go on a road trip with your family.

4Vman · 16-08-2005, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laminge

Excel

Some neons, 5 inch exhaust and your set

GOLD!!!!

Steffo · 16-08-2005, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Dude the whole Zed series is performance orientated. Since when do twin turbo coupes constitute anything else. If youve even been in one they certainly aint designed to go on a road trip with your family.

300ZX was supposed to be a high end luxury tourer. It was NEVER marketed as an all-out performance orientated vehicle. That honour went to the Skyline GT-R.

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steffo

300ZX was supposed to be a high end luxury tourer. It was NEVER marketed as an all-out performance orientated vehicle. That honour went to the Skyline GT-R.

Yeah id still get a GT-R too its just i think that 300ZXs are nice cars and perform great. Jeez it was only a suggestion.

parawolf · 16-08-2005, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laminge

Excel

Some neons, 5 inch exhaust and your set

Done - and i'll still have change for some maccas on the way home with my fortnightly pay

parawolf · 16-08-2005, 02:01 PM

Hmmm an 'old' porsche would be ripper.. though I bet finding one in good condition will be difficult and servicing expensive as.

300ZX Styling I don't mind - but not 100% on its performance.

GT-R I don't give two tosses about because I am just not caring about that level of performance.

I want something is going to be fun to spank the living crap out of on the weekend at a racetrack - or 1/4 mile and that is still 'reasonable' to drive.

Escort could be a nice idea... might research this some more.

dansedgli · 16-08-2005, 02:02 PM

How much are you looking at spending?
Do you still want some level of comfort or would you be happy with a nissan interior after dropping the BA?

MITCHAY · 16-08-2005, 02:08 PM

They are comfortable cars otherwise i wouldnt of suggested it. If you want a comparison look sit in the 350Z. Its soo nice. Look im not goin to go out tommorow and buy one i was just offering an alternative.

Sourbastard · 16-08-2005, 02:09 PM

Im sure this is a thread Selekta should be contributing to.

parawolf · 16-08-2005, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansedgli

How much are you looking at spending?
Do you still want some level of comfort or would you be happy with a nissan interior after dropping the BA?

$40,000 is pretty easy.

I don't mind the Nissan 200SX interior if that is what you mean? I haven't seen the inside of a 300ZX recently so I can't comment.

So the list as it stands is:

1997/98 Lotus Elise
~1986 Porsche 911
1998 Toyota Supra RZ TT
2001 Nissan 200SX
2002 Mazda MX5 SP

If I stretch the budget a little, 2004/2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII

dansedgli · 16-08-2005, 02:27 PM

Evo!!!

or by my car, put in 6 speed and have change left over! :P